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Post by quinn on Nov 9, 2012 8:38:52 GMT -5
You're a frantic debugger? What is your attitude towards debugging (and programming for that matter)? It seems like it generates stress or tension for you, or puts you so out of aware of anything else that the body smokes its way through the experience. Totally frantic. With a definite high in the discoveries and a low when the program's complete that leaves me wanting another. Kinda a lot like smoking. Debug is my favorite part of programming. I was surprised to discover that's not true with most programmers. I love the challenge and I love the zone. And, yeah, I've seen the parallel between that and ATA - except it's different. It's like the difference between a drug induced insight and a sober insight. Being in a zone is heavenly, but it's temporary and doesn't lead to anything except wanting more zone. How about you?
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Post by quinn on Nov 9, 2012 8:51:24 GMT -5
That's good if you aren't a smoker in your dream state. That means it's not a central part of your current identity. A-H aren't against smoking at all if it's not done feeling guilty. They actually see it as beneficial to the body when it's done to relax the body - kinda raising vibration thingy. That's funny. I wondered about that same thing. My sister has been an off and on smoker - quitting for many months, sometimes years, relapsing, struggling with it constantly, hating it - and she's the one with lung cancer. So, do you think if I envisioned myself as having healthy lungs, plenty of breathing capacity and as a non-smoker, that I could manifest that? I've tried that. It interrupts the zone and pisses me off. ;D
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Post by Reefs on Nov 9, 2012 9:10:00 GMT -5
That's funny. I wondered about that same thing. My sister has been an off and on smoker - quitting for many months, sometimes years, relapsing, struggling with it constantly, hating it - and she's the one with lung cancer. Because she's the one with a high level of resistance which blocks the flow of life, the stream. Your sister does not have cancer, your sister has absence of the stream. ;D No, not with seeing yourself as a non-smoker. Envisioning yourself healthy wealthy and wise is enough, everything that is not a match to that will fall off effortlessly in time. You only need them to lower your level of resistance. So do some meditation before you debug, prepare your flow experience. In the A-H teachings they call it 'prepaving'. Or try un tablette de chewing-gum after every ciggy.
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Post by quinn on Nov 9, 2012 9:21:30 GMT -5
You only need them to lower your level of resistance. So do some meditation before you debug, prepare your flow experience. In the A-H teachings they call it 'prepaving'. Or try un tablette de chewing-gum after every ciggy. In...ter...res...ting. Hummm.
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Post by topology on Nov 9, 2012 9:35:04 GMT -5
You're a frantic debugger? What is your attitude towards debugging (and programming for that matter)? It seems like it generates stress or tension for you, or puts you so out of aware of anything else that the body smokes its way through the experience. Totally frantic. With a definite high in the discoveries and a low when the program's complete that leaves me wanting another. Kinda a lot like smoking. Debug is my favorite part of programming. I was surprised to discover that's not true with most programmers. I love the challenge and I love the zone. And, yeah, I've seen the parallel between that and ATA - except it's different. It's like the difference between a drug induced insight and a sober insight. Being in a zone is heavenly, but it's temporary and doesn't lead to anything except wanting more zone. How about you? Right now, I only code for my classes. Most of my research is typing into a latex file, which is a kind of coding to get the formatting right. But nothing like coding in actual programming languages. My philosophy: Before getting started, have several test cases and sample input/output and have pseudocode (this can be mental) for how the input is transformed to the output. As I develop the solution, write part of the transformation, compile, and check that the sample inputs are altered the way I expect, go back to writing more of the transform. Write test cases for every branch of code flow. What type of coding do you prefer?
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Post by Reefs on Nov 9, 2012 9:37:47 GMT -5
What type of coding do you prefer? I prefer ROT13.
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Post by quinn on Nov 9, 2012 10:03:00 GMT -5
Right now, I only code for my classes. Most of my research is typing into a latex file, which is a kind of coding to get the formatting right. But nothing like coding in actual programming languages. My philosophy: Before getting started, have several test cases and sample input/output and have pseudocode (this can be mental) for how the input is transformed to the output. As I develop the solution, write part of the transformation, compile, and check that the sample inputs are altered the way I expect, go back to writing more of the transform. Write test cases for every branch of code flow. What type of coding do you prefer? I approach it real linear. Right now I'm not working on anything super complex, so it's mental pseudocode, write a segment, test it every-which way I can, then move on to the next segment. I haven't really needed to pre-brainstorm test cases yet. It's web development, so most stuff is pretty straightforward. Back in the early days when I worked with main-frame programming & systems analysis, I had to have all that structure but not now. I like any coding. So far I've learned Java, JQuery and javascript. Debating what to go to next (maybe PhP), but the web-world changes so fast it's hard to keep your finger on the pulse. Branching out into graphic design too. I love a smooth running, easy to navigate and beautiful to look at website, so that's the long-term goal. Having a ball with all of it.
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Post by topology on Nov 9, 2012 10:03:26 GMT -5
What type of coding do you prefer? I prefer ROT13. I encrypt every one of my messages with an identity substitution cypher. It's the only way to be sure that nobody can not read my messages.
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Post by topology on Nov 9, 2012 10:13:55 GMT -5
Right now, I only code for my classes. Most of my research is typing into a latex file, which is a kind of coding to get the formatting right. But nothing like coding in actual programming languages. My philosophy: Before getting started, have several test cases and sample input/output and have pseudocode (this can be mental) for how the input is transformed to the output. As I develop the solution, write part of the transformation, compile, and check that the sample inputs are altered the way I expect, go back to writing more of the transform. Write test cases for every branch of code flow. What type of coding do you prefer? I approach it real linear. Right now I'm not working on anything super complex, so it's mental pseudocode, write a segment, test it every-which way I can, then move on to the next segment. I haven't really needed to pre-brainstorm test cases yet. It's web development, so most stuff is pretty straightforward. Back in the early days when I worked with main-frame programming & systems analysis, I had to have all that structure but not now. I like any coding. So far I've learned Java, JQuery and javascript. Debating what to go to next (maybe PhP), but the web-world changes so fast it's hard to keep your finger on the pulse. Branching out into graphic design too. I love a smooth running, easy to navigate and beautiful to look at website, so that's the long-term goal. Having a ball with all of it. *shudders* web programming makes my skin crawl. I'm a compiler guy myself. I would love to design a compiler-compiler that would allow people to easily design fragments of domain specific languages and compose them together.
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Post by farmer on Nov 9, 2012 10:54:00 GMT -5
That's good if you aren't a smoker in your dream state. That means it's not a central part of your current identity. A-H aren't against smoking at all if it's not done feeling guilty. They actually see it as beneficial to the body when it's done to relax the body - kinda raising vibration thingy. You could put the ashtray somewhere else where you have to get up to throw your ciggies in. Then you'll be aware of you smoking. A-H? Does that refer to the highly profitable seminar-giving, book selling, duo? abrahamhicksfraud.blogspot.com/
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Post by quinn on Nov 9, 2012 11:00:41 GMT -5
*shudders* web programming makes my skin crawl. Heehee. Good - there are too many web programmers anyway. Sounds like JQuery. Youse guys are what's going to put programmers out of business. There are 15 year old kids that can put web pages up faster than me. (But not as elegantly. ;D ) The first course I took (in the dark ages) was machine language . Yes, coding in binary and hex. You kids got it easy now. And I had to walk two miles to school every day. In blizzards. Uphill. ;D
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Post by Reefs on Nov 9, 2012 11:01:43 GMT -5
That's good if you aren't a smoker in your dream state. That means it's not a central part of your current identity. A-H aren't against smoking at all if it's not done feeling guilty. They actually see it as beneficial to the body when it's done to relax the body - kinda raising vibration thingy. You could put the ashtray somewhere else where you have to get up to throw your ciggies in. Then you'll be aware of you smoking. A-H? Does that refer to the highly profitable seminar-giving, book selling, duo? abrahamhicksfraud.blogspot.com/Corrrrrectomundo.
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Post by Reefs on Nov 9, 2012 11:02:08 GMT -5
I encrypt every one of my messages with an identity substitution cypher. It's the only way to be sure that nobody can not read my messages. QNZA FUVG SHPX
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Post by quinn on Nov 9, 2012 13:06:42 GMT -5
I encrypt every one of my messages with an identity substitution cypher. It's the only way to be sure that nobody can not read my messages. QNZA FUVG SHPX QNEA FUBBG VAGREPBHEFR <----censored
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Post by topology on Nov 9, 2012 14:59:01 GMT -5
*shudders* web programming makes my skin crawl. Heehee. Good - there are too many web programmers anyway. Sounds like JQuery. Youse guys are what's going to put programmers out of business. There are 15 year old kids that can put web pages up faster than me. (But not as elegantly. ;D ) The first course I took (in the dark ages) was machine language . Yes, coding in binary and hex. You kids got it easy now. And I had to walk two miles to school every day. In blizzards. Uphill. ;D I actually would prefer that we taught programming from the darkages going forward, machine representation of numbers, assembly language where numbers represent codes of instruction, using labels as subroutines, goto, then start building more abstract languages, c out of assembly. C++ out of C. Then more abstract mathematical languages like Python or SML, or Haskell. Then into declarative languages and logic languages.
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