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Post by michaelsees on Mar 17, 2011 23:27:04 GMT -5
Salvia is single-handedly the most frightening, intense, and mind-boggling thing I have ever come across. Nothing--and I mean NOTHING-- has ever scared me as much as that. I thought I was a loon for a good 3 months, and had a panic attack so bad I passed out. And I still tried it again. It's weird how things work out sometimes. If I was a psychologist, I'd have every suicidal person that ever came into my office use that drug. You want to die? Here. In 15 minutes you'll feel more relieved and happy to be alive than you ever have in your life. Scary, scary nuts. LOL sound like you had my experience! It is beyond scary but others are saying it's the amount as I said I could never relate to laughing and having a good time with it. Michael
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Post by mamza on Mar 17, 2011 23:36:56 GMT -5
I've only ever had a 20x extract, and it is simply redonkulous. A friend of mine had one good experience on it, but even he has no idea how that happened. I'd like to try the weakest potency of it I could get just to see the difference, but that's something you need to either do spontaneously (so you don't psyche yourself out), or have some major, major elephant balls.
What amazes me is that I've heard of people doing it while already on other psychedelics. I can't even comprehend...
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Post by michaelsees on Mar 17, 2011 23:46:01 GMT -5
I've only ever had a 20x extract, and it is simply redonkulous. A friend of mine had one good experience on it, but even he has no idea how that happened. I'd like to try the weakest potency of it I could get just to see the difference, but that's something you need to either do spontaneously (so you don't psyche yourself out), or have some major, major elephant balls. What amazes me is that I've heard of people doing it while already on other psychedelics. I can't even comprehend... Wow 20x which was double mine I did a whole joint in like 30 seconds. It's funny after I did it like you say your so happy you come out of it but then I had some intuition come in and I knew if I did again like in a week it would not be half as crazy. For me it seem to have this purging of negative thoughts and vibes. Whatever like you say if I do it again it will be in the moment. good night Michael
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Post by teknix on Mar 18, 2011 6:43:56 GMT -5
Yeah guys, I agree about salvia. I can honestly say I hated it. It sorta felt like I de-evolved into a 2 dimensional plane.
I've never done acid, so I don't know about that.
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Post by dreamerrach on Mar 18, 2011 7:32:27 GMT -5
Hmm. Strange--I am glad I never experienced such scary episodes on it. As for the laughing, that didn't last long--it was just an immediate effect. Suppose this advices caution on my part if I do use it in the future.
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Post by mamza on Mar 18, 2011 7:45:48 GMT -5
It's much more potent every time I try it because I actually remember more. The first time I tried it, I came out with nothing but intense fear and a wobbly balance. I can remember very little of it. The second time I was there the whole time, unfortunately.
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Post by grapefruit on Mar 18, 2011 10:21:36 GMT -5
Salvia is by far the most "Zen" of any drug, it's very much a death trip. You don't get lost in a mystical haze on salvia. Most people hate it because it naturally shows you up as a fraud and shows reality up for it's "plastic" nature. It's like a freeze frame that you get stuck in (or perhaps you could describe as a record skipping) and forget all about the polarities of thought i.e. "me" or "not me". DMT and stuff like that are a lot of fun and can have great afterglows but generally nothing very lasting, also the ego death is no where near as profound as salvia IME.
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Post by michaelsees on Mar 18, 2011 12:28:17 GMT -5
Interesting take Grapefruit. It sure feels like you are going somewhere and not coming back. If you do large amounts like I or Mamza done it really gets scary.
Michael
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Post by mamza on Mar 18, 2011 16:32:45 GMT -5
I think grapefruit is right on the money. The only thing I'd add is how impossible it feels to avoid getting caught up in the sensations that appear. When I did it I got stuck on the feeling of reality 'rolloing up' and didn't realize what went on until much later. His description is unusually accurate...
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Post by michaelsees on Mar 18, 2011 16:57:58 GMT -5
I certainly agree that it's a death trip drug. I would not call it Zen my trip was just as horrible physically as well as mentally. I remember most of the trip even to this day. I felt exactly like the people in Matrix and you see there face covered with liquid steel, the floor look as it was made of stainless steel and was tilted so high I had to grabbed on the edge and hold on. There was No feel good feelings wit this drug. Only after you get the satisfaction that you returned and still alive.
Michael
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Post by grapefruit on Mar 18, 2011 18:51:44 GMT -5
I'd have to agree, it is the only drug I've taken that truly scares me, it's also the most interesting drug I've taken. Trade off I guess. It's probably as close as you can get to the delirium of datura (not something I've tried) without ingesting the very same toxic stuff.
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Post by michaelsees on Mar 18, 2011 20:48:24 GMT -5
Hmmm well when I lived in central america there were ton's of datura around(Angel Trumpets ) it was common to mix the Datura with the San Pedro Cactus. But it seems like the most beneficial is the mushroom Amanita muscaria. Research has shown that there is a very high probability that the Soma spoke of in the Vedas is actually this Mushroom. You can read more about and other folks experience on this site. IT's normally made into a wine I am going to buy myself a gallon of it. Amanita muscaria has so many qualities you cannot list all of them . www.ambrosiasociety.org/site/Michael
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Post by Portto on Mar 19, 2011 14:19:14 GMT -5
Non-poisonous mushrooms are also very good!
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