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Post by frankshank on Mar 24, 2010 13:47:37 GMT -5
frank: Like you I'm on the fence. If One is off the fence either way in terms of what is true/false, enlightened/unenlightened, a problem arises in the nonduality story at least in the unconditional version. In the unconditional version there are no distinctions or discrimination whatsoever in One. In that version the dualities of true/false, enlightened/unenlightened arise only in the illusion of difference and are illusory. So whatever mask one takes off there will always be another underneath, including the mask of masklessness. What a relief. -amit- It's funny as the likes of you, LM, ZD & enigma have such different flavours the way I perceive it. You play it straight down the middle. Are they wearing different masks in the knowledge that they are ultimately as straight down the middle as you or are you operating at different levels of awareness? |
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Post by zendancer on Mar 24, 2010 21:42:41 GMT -5
frank: Like you I'm on the fence. If One is off the fence either way in terms of what is true/false, enlightened/unenlightened, a problem arises in the nonduality story at least in the unconditional version. In the unconditional version there are no distinctions or discrimination whatsoever in One. In that version the dualities of true/false, enlightened/unenlightened arise only in the illusion of difference and are illusory. So whatever mask one takes off there will always be another underneath, including the mask of masklessness. What a relief. -amit- It's funny as the likes of you, LM, ZD & enigma have such different flavours the way I perceive it. You play it straight down the middle. Are they wearing different masks in the knowledge that they are ultimately as straight down the middle as you or are you operating at different levels of awareness? Frank: There can be different levels of clarity, but not of awareness. Awareness is pure, untouched by anything. It is beyond time or space. It has no qualities. Everything appears within THAT. Check it out for yourself this moment. See if you can find anything that can be said about awareness. |
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Post by guest is the best on Mar 24, 2010 22:49:02 GMT -5
"5) How many people who are happy with their ego illusion seek enlightenment? Not many is my guess!"
Hi, just comparing here and than spiritual value of bible, out of fun/curiosity. And I wander is this quote of frankshank - what bible tried to say by words: "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God."
What do you think/know?
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Post by enigma on Mar 25, 2010 0:49:07 GMT -5
frank: Like you I'm on the fence. If One is off the fence either way in terms of what is true/false, enlightened/unenlightened, a problem arises in the nonduality story at least in the unconditional version. In the unconditional version there are no distinctions or discrimination whatsoever in One. In that version the dualities of true/false, enlightened/unenlightened arise only in the illusion of difference and are illusory. So whatever mask one takes off there will always be another underneath, including the mask of masklessness. What a relief. -amit- It's funny as the likes of you, LM, ZD & enigma have such different flavours the way I perceive it. You play it straight down the middle. Are they wearing different masks in the knowledge that they are ultimately as straight down the middle as you or are you operating at different levels of awareness? For whatever it's worth, I'm in complete agreement with Amit, though I'm just as likely to be in complete agreement with whatever is said, for the reasons Amit points out. The words are mostly irrelevant, really. |
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Post by enigma on Mar 25, 2010 0:52:34 GMT -5
"5) How many people who are happy with their ego illusion seek enlightenment? Not many is my guess!" Hi, just comparing here and than spiritual value of bible, out of fun/curiosity. And I wander is this quote of frankshank - what bible tried to say by words: "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." What do you think/know? I see "rich man" as referring to attachments, whether it be material or knowledge or whatever. Does it make more sense that way? |
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Post by mistletoe on Mar 25, 2010 3:24:29 GMT -5
“The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.”
– Albert Einstein
The overall trend is that it will likely get 'worse' before it gets 'better', but that's just a probability of a rational mind looking at everybody needlessly trying to cram everything into or take everything they can from infinity, not realizing they are IT. Strangely, that's just IT.
Premindlessly, somenothing IS, and for now IT's expression through this body/mind is just typing and digging the beauty of the explosion still taking place as this message board and the snow falling outside.
Why?
Why not?
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Post by someNOTHING! on Mar 25, 2010 9:56:41 GMT -5
Mistletoe was/is somenothing,,,forgot to mention. Was on an office computer, chillin' and taking a breather, not able to remember log in info.
Anyway, mistletoe has always been a great teaching plant, of sorts.
G'night!
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