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Post by zendancer on Aug 27, 2023 9:39:42 GMT -5
Can someone post an Amazon link? I can only find the 2000 edition. The 2000 edition should be deleted today, but I'll check to make sure. After deletion the newer version should be the only one available. Thanks for the heads up. I tried to remove the image of the original version without success, but have contacted Amazon about that. The new version can be accessed by entering "Pouring Concrete expanded edition" or hitting the link that Laughter posted.
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Post by lolly on Aug 27, 2023 21:45:08 GMT -5
I was born big brained and my mind is very complex, but I live pretty much entirely in a physical context. I like dirt plants and mulch more that anything else in the world. Because of the big brain, I was pressured to get a degree and had every opportunity, but it just wasn't me.
When I was at university, essays and such would make me sick, then one day a professor told me she recently started going to concerts because she needed to find "joy in the body". She said academia just uses the body as a wheelbarrow to carry the brain around. Being in your body is where you're meant to be.
I agree. Using my brain makes me miserable and I'm not happy unless I do hard physical things. Amazing it took me decades to figure out such a simple thing. So much for the big brain ay.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Aug 28, 2023 9:33:37 GMT -5
Can someone post an Amazon link? I can only find the 2000 edition. The 2000 edition should be deleted today, but I'll check to make sure. After deletion the newer version should be the only one available. Thanks for the heads up. I tried to remove the image of the original version without success, but have contacted Amazon about that. The new version can be accessed by entering "Pouring Concrete expanded edition" or hitting the link that Laughter posted. Amazon provides an unusual service, individual sellers can list their books there, used books. So if someone has an old copy to sell, Amazon wouldn't remove that, that would probably get really complicated. And the used old copies show up on the new edition listing. Old reviews even show up on the new edition listing. That's just info, so I don't know how successful you will be.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Aug 28, 2023 9:57:28 GMT -5
I was born big brained and my mind is very complex, but I live pretty much entirely in a physical context. I like dirt plants and mulch more that anything else in the world. Because of the big brain, I was pressured to get a degree and had every opportunity, but it just wasn't me. When I was at university, essays and such would make me sick, then one day a professor told me she recently started going to concerts because she needed to find "joy in the body". She said academia just uses the body as a wheelbarrow to carry the brain around. Being in your body is where you're meant to be. I agree. Using my brain makes me miserable and I'm not happy unless I do hard physical things. Amazing it took me decades to figure out such a simple thing. So much for the big brain ay. I would say this is a distinction between one's self as essence and one's self as the cultural self. Essence has natural inclinations, the false self has acquired inclinations. I don't seem to be too successful at presenting here that there is a self one is born with or born as, that is one's True Self, the true individuation. The cultural self, the false self, gets put on us haphazardly by circumstances, through the influence of parents and other caregivers, the general environment of a child. I would say a big factor is being raised in an atmosphere of harsh rules and regulations, and harsh punishment for infractions, a parenting style of it's my way or the highway, kid, a feeling the parent has to mold the kid into something. Good parenting allows the kid to unfold what they are. So I would say your situation is not unusual. What's unusual was your ability to find yourself, what you truly like to do, we use the word wish, in relation to essence. Essence operates from wish, the false self operates from compulsion, feeling forced to do what one really doesn't wish to do. I've said essence is the true individuation here multiple times. Everyone else here takes essence to be ~All That Is~. It's actually rather difficult to become free of the false self, in general. It's difficult to see that what we have always taken to-be self, not to be self, is not who we truly are. And I would add, purification is being purified of the crap that was put on us, which isn't our True Self.
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Post by zendancer on Aug 28, 2023 10:38:28 GMT -5
The 2000 edition should be deleted today, but I'll check to make sure. After deletion the newer version should be the only one available. Thanks for the heads up. I tried to remove the image of the original version without success, but have contacted Amazon about that. The new version can be accessed by entering "Pouring Concrete expanded edition" or hitting the link that Laughter posted. Amazon provides an unusual service, individual sellers can list their books there, used books. So if someone has an old copy to sell, Amazon wouldn't remove that, that would probably get really complicated. And the used old copies show up on the new edition listing. Old reviews even show up on the new edition listing. That's just info, so I don't know how successful you will be. Understood. I'm hoping that if they won't remove the listing, they'll move it way down the list so that it won't be one of the first books that shows up when someone enters the words "Pouring Concrete."
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Post by andrew on Aug 28, 2023 11:08:49 GMT -5
I was born big brained and my mind is very complex, but I live pretty much entirely in a physical context. I like dirt plants and mulch more that anything else in the world. Because of the big brain, I was pressured to get a degree and had every opportunity, but it just wasn't me. When I was at university, essays and such would make me sick, then one day a professor told me she recently started going to concerts because she needed to find "joy in the body". She said academia just uses the body as a wheelbarrow to carry the brain around. Being in your body is where you're meant to be. I agree. Using my brain makes me miserable and I'm not happy unless I do hard physical things. Amazing it took me decades to figure out such a simple thing. So much for the big brain ay. I would say this is a distinction between one's self as essence and one's self as the cultural self. Essence has natural inclinations, the false self has acquired inclinations. I don't seem to be too successful at presenting here that there is a self one is born with or born as, that is one's True Self, the true individuation. The cultural self, the false self, gets put on us haphazardly by circumstances, through the influence of parents and other caregivers, the general environment of a child. I would say a big factor is being raised in an atmosphere of harsh rules and regulations, and harsh punishment for infractions, a parenting style of it's my way or the highway, kid, a feeling the parent has to mold the kid into something. Good parenting allows the kid to unfold what they are. So I would say your situation is not unusual. What's unusual was your ability to find yourself, what you truly like to do, we use the word wish, in relation to essence. Essence operates from wish, the false self operates from compulsion, feeling forced to do what one really doesn't wish to do. I've said essence is the true individuation here multiple times. Everyone else here takes essence to be ~All That Is~. It's actually rather difficult to become free of the false self, in general. It's difficult to see that what we have always taken to-be self, not to be self, is not who we truly are. And I would add, purification is being purified of the crap that was put on us, which isn't our True Self. I can relate to your model, but I pay attention to the dualistic aspect of it (true and false self). There's a delicate balance, as the false self feeds off the sense of enemies and problems to solve....it can feed off wanting to solve itself! So for me, there can be a balance between noticing it (and transmuting at times) while not giving it all too much energy.
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Post by lolly on Aug 28, 2023 16:58:04 GMT -5
I was born big brained and my mind is very complex, but I live pretty much entirely in a physical context. I like dirt plants and mulch more that anything else in the world. Because of the big brain, I was pressured to get a degree and had every opportunity, but it just wasn't me. When I was at university, essays and such would make me sick, then one day a professor told me she recently started going to concerts because she needed to find "joy in the body". She said academia just uses the body as a wheelbarrow to carry the brain around. Being in your body is where you're meant to be. I agree. Using my brain makes me miserable and I'm not happy unless I do hard physical things. Amazing it took me decades to figure out such a simple thing. So much for the big brain ay. I would say this is a distinction between one's self as essence and one's self as the cultural self. Essence has natural inclinations, the false self has acquired inclinations. I don't seem to be too successful at presenting here that there is a self one is born with or born as, that is one's True Self, the true individuation. The cultural self, the false self, gets put on us haphazardly by circumstances, through the influence of parents and other caregivers, the general environment of a child. I would say a big factor is being raised in an atmosphere of harsh rules and regulations, and harsh punishment for infractions, a parenting style of it's my way or the highway, kid, a feeling the parent has to mold the kid into something. Good parenting allows the kid to unfold what they are. So I would say your situation is not unusual. What's unusual was your ability to find yourself, what you truly like to do, we use the word wish, in relation to essence. Essence operates from wish, the false self operates from compulsion, feeling forced to do what one really doesn't wish to do. I've said essence is the true individuation here multiple times. Everyone else here takes essence to be ~All That Is~. It's actually rather difficult to become free of the false self, in general. It's difficult to see that what we have always taken to-be self, not to be self, is not who we truly are. And I would add, purification is being purified of the crap that was put on us, which isn't our True Self. Sure there's a natural expression and each of us is unique. I don't think there is a cultural self, but there's 'norms' and people don't treat you right if you don't abide by them. These days we're trying to do away with norms because a new fangled 'Identity' enables you choose to be what you want (as opposed to just being the way you are). I think people will be less happy because it is essentially a new extreme of ego-mania. This new idea does away with the notion that you have a 'natural' personality by imposing the choice to invent your own identity. Weirdly, psychiatrists and psychologists advocate this sort of thing because the whole dynamic of 'mental health' is necessarily insane.
People always think 'freedom' to do what you want, to be yourself, and so forth is a key to happiness, but there is an irony that you need restrictions to be happy. Buddha got it with his middle way, and it's actually obvious when you raise a child that they thrive so much better when they have strict rules and clear boundaries.
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