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Post by inavalan on Jun 4, 2023 16:32:38 GMT -5
To me, that "realization" is garbage, and it isn't as it has to be. As I understand it, we aren't here to get "illuminated" about perfection, but to perceive / interpret / learn / improve, over and over. Believing that things are perfect as they are shuts down the learning and the progress. . Well, you know what they say. Ones man’s trash is another man’s treasure. 😎 Good point! It depends how we apply it. As our perception is subjective, how could we discern our way? My way is to follow my inner-guidance. Others' ways is to follow others' guidance. Anyway, we shouldn't follow the majority or the official narratives, nor can we discern among the multitude of dogmas, gurus, avatars, delusional cases, ... The more a source claims that it "knows", the most likely that it is wrong. |
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Post by inavalan on Jun 4, 2023 16:46:58 GMT -5
To me, that "realization" is garbage, and it isn't as it has to be. As I understand it, we aren't here to get "illuminated" about perfection, but to perceive / interpret / learn / improve, over and over. Believing that things are perfect as they are shuts down the learning and the progress.Not really. Admittedly the word "perfect" has an implication that "everything is wonderful just the way it is," but that's not what's being suggested. Unfortunately, we don't have a word in English that adequately captures what the insight is, and the insight has nothing to do with "shutting down learning." If there's learning, then that's just the way THIS happens to be perfectly unfolding.  The idea that we're here to improve is a SVP perspective. There's nothing wrong with that perspective, but it isn't what most people on this forum have an interest in. A self-improvement forum would seem to offer a more receptive audience. Short answer: nope, on all your points. |
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Post by justlikeyou on Jun 4, 2023 19:38:22 GMT -5
ZD said: "I remember mentioning this to Enigma many years ago by saying something like "The whole universe is alive because we are alive," but he dismissed that as an illogical conclusion. Ironically, I wasn't trying to be logical" Task: Analyze the following in terms of no-duality and oneness. "I remember mentioning this to Enigma many years ago by saying something like "The whole universe is alive because we are alive," but he dismissed that as an illogical conclusion. Ironically, I wasn't trying to be logical" ChatGPT: In the given statement, "The whole universe is alive because we are alive," the idea of oneness and non-duality is subtly implied. The statement suggests that there is a deep interconnection between our individual existence and the aliveness of the entire universe. It implies that our aliveness is not separate from the aliveness of everything else but rather an intrinsic part of it. When the speaker mentions Enigma's dismissal of this idea as an illogical conclusion, it highlights the contrast between a logical perspective and a more intuitive or experiential understanding. The speaker acknowledges that their statement was not intended to be logical but rather an expression of a deeper sense of connection and oneness. From a logical standpoint, the statement may indeed appear illogical since it challenges the conventional notion of individuality and separateness. However, when viewed through the lens of non-duality and oneness, it can be seen as an attempt to express a profound truth about the interconnected nature of existence. |
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