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Post by bryan on Aug 11, 2019 7:37:41 GMT -5
the simpliest truth is: do NOT have the brain of this world (group hive mind like people in this forum), do NOT feel the need to prove yourself (courage) and do NOT have a heart for this world
why? because you will end up like Dorothy back in Kansas which is an anagram for the ASS CAN
SPEAR THE HEART. IT IS A TRAP! THE EGO MIND IS ALSO A TRAP! SO IS THE NEED TO PROVE YOURSELF...
BYE!
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Post by bryan on Aug 11, 2019 7:42:00 GMT -5
one last comment
SPIRITUALITY, IN THIS WORLD, IS THE FALSE SELF (EGO)
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Post by andrew on Aug 11, 2019 8:03:19 GMT -5
There's a conspiracies thread (called con-spear-acies or something like that) if you want to have a browse through it. A lot of the videos we posted there have now been deleted by youtube. There have been attempts to talk about the stuff you talk about here. I've followed Icke, understand a lot of what you are saying, but I come here for the intellectual spiritual stuff, and because I quite like the people (even though I argue with them). Interesting Epstein situation eh? Out of interest I searched on youtube yesterday for 'Epstein murdered', and took photos of the top 30 searches that came up. 75 percent alternative truth people. I will check again in a few days. Willing to bet that most of it is gone and we'll be left with cnn, fox, abc. I look at bit/chute these days, but I find Trump enthusiasts a bit of a pain. it is ALL A STAGE. if you look for photos on the internet you will find that the clintons and trumps are best buddies. these THINGS are all friends behind the scenes. they are acting. everything is being spoon-fed to the public. peoples minds are controlled. I HAVE NEVER OWNED A TELEVISION. I HAVE NEVER OWNED A CELL-PHONE. only this labtop. i do NOT read mainstream news anymore or conspiracy stuff because it is completely scripted and staged for your consumption epstein, more than likely, IS ALIVE OR HE WAS SUICIDED. there is NO WAY he suicided himself. more than likely though, HE IS ALIVE AND WELL... rememberr this world is A FAKE STAGE OF LIES, SMOKE AND MIRRORS... there is much in the words...shakespeare (shakes spear) as in spear the heart (heart anagram for earth)....i see patterns in the words, numbers and symbols... i honestly do NOT find anything interesting about the CEREBRAL DANCING on this website. they are doing a circle jerk no different from the regular people on other websites. i am not really into pretending and i am unaffected by praise and insults anyways.. THE GROUP STUFF ON THIS WEBSITE AND ELSEWHERE IS SHAME-BASED BEHAVIOR OF MR AND MRS EGO. you know...my sh*t does not stink but yours does. i really have no interest in that nonsense. i am interested in people like myself..fat chance of meeting people like that... well, this is not the group for you. We circle jerk and spiritually one-up each other a lot lol. You would probably just get frustrated with us. If you want to meet people more like yourself, I think there's still plenty on twitter, though twitter is obviously being manipulated in a big way too, and you have to play within their rules. Did you used to go to the Icke forum? I haven't looked at it in several years, but if it's still there, could be worth a look.
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Post by bryan on Aug 11, 2019 8:59:41 GMT -5
it is ALL A STAGE. if you look for photos on the internet you will find that the clintons and trumps are best buddies. these THINGS are all friends behind the scenes. they are acting. everything is being spoon-fed to the public. peoples minds are controlled. I HAVE NEVER OWNED A TELEVISION. I HAVE NEVER OWNED A CELL-PHONE. only this labtop. i do NOT read mainstream news anymore or conspiracy stuff because it is completely scripted and staged for your consumption epstein, more than likely, IS ALIVE OR HE WAS SUICIDED. there is NO WAY he suicided himself. more than likely though, HE IS ALIVE AND WELL... rememberr this world is A FAKE STAGE OF LIES, SMOKE AND MIRRORS... there is much in the words...shakespeare (shakes spear) as in spear the heart (heart anagram for earth)....i see patterns in the words, numbers and symbols... i honestly do NOT find anything interesting about the CEREBRAL DANCING on this website. they are doing a circle jerk no different from the regular people on other websites. i am not really into pretending and i am unaffected by praise and insults anyways.. THE GROUP STUFF ON THIS WEBSITE AND ELSEWHERE IS SHAME-BASED BEHAVIOR OF MR AND MRS EGO. you know...my sh*t does not stink but yours does. i really have no interest in that nonsense. i am interested in people like myself..fat chance of meeting people like that... well, this is not the group for you. We circle jerk and spiritually one-up each other a lot lol. You would probably just get frustrated with us. If you want to meet people more like yourself, I think there's still plenty on twitter, though twitter is obviously being manipulated in a big way too, and you have to play within their rules. Did you used to go to the Icke forum? I haven't looked at it in several years, but if it's still there, could be worth a look. You are SCRIPTED HIVE NO MORE COMMUNICATING YOU ARE ALL THE SAME THIMG GOODBYE FOR GOOD! you didn't read what i wrote, hence the icke and twitter comment. Bye
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Post by andrew on Aug 11, 2019 9:02:15 GMT -5
well, this is not the group for you. We circle jerk and spiritually one-up each other a lot lol. You would probably just get frustrated with us. If you want to meet people more like yourself, I think there's still plenty on twitter, though twitter is obviously being manipulated in a big way too, and you have to play within their rules. Did you used to go to the Icke forum? I haven't looked at it in several years, but if it's still there, could be worth a look. You are SCRIPTED HIVE NO MORE COMMUNICATING YOU ARE ALL THE SAME THIMG GOODBYE FOR GOOD! you didn't read what i wrote, hence the icke and twitter comment. Bye Do you believe in 'the shift'? The ascension? The golden age?
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Post by laughter on Aug 11, 2019 12:38:28 GMT -5
Relax, calm down, and your free speech will be restored! Relax, you're among friends. There's not a single member here who wouldn't risk getting sedated if we related some of the stuff we do on here out in the general public. i do not need your patronizing nonsense i do NOT participate in forms that censor. part of my principals. free speech is an absolute. like i said, most of you do NOT seem spiritual to me. you are hiding IN YOUR HEADS. most forums on the internet are the same way...there is a nastiness in people and I SEE IT ON THIS FORUM ALSO the internet was created FOR EGO INFLATION....twitter, instagram, fakebook, selfies yada yada yada. ok, well, I'm genuinely sorry, as I didn't intend to patronize, but rather, commiserate. My bad.
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Post by laughter on Aug 11, 2019 12:40:58 GMT -5
i really DO NOT NEED people anymore. i really get nothing out of these interactions anymore tuttles! There's a conspiracies thread (called con-spear-acies or something like that) if you want to have a browse through it. A lot of the videos we posted there have now been deleted by youtube. There have been attempts to talk about the stuff you talk about here. I've followed Icke, understand a lot of what you are saying, but I come here for the intellectual spiritual stuff, and because I quite like the people (even though I argue with them). Interesting Epstein situation eh? Out of interest I searched on youtube yesterday for 'Epstein murdered', and took photos of the top 30 searches that came up. 75 percent alternative truth people. I will check again in a few days. Willing to bet that most of it is gone and we'll be left with cnn, fox, abc. I look at bit/chute these days, but I find Trump enthusiasts a bit of a pain. Even the attorney general of the United States is suspicious about this, so it's not a fringe thingy.
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Post by laughter on Aug 11, 2019 12:42:32 GMT -5
since i am ISOLATED to this thread alone i will more than likely no longer be posting.
you can all do your CIRCLE JERK together. YOU ARE NOT EVOLVED. you just have learned this cerebral dance of the ego.
since i am being ostracized and isolated i cannot support this forum. it is not different than the rest of the internet, censorship and control
i wish you all the best. I DO NOT NEED PEOPLE ANYMORE!
GOOD LUCK WITH WHAT IS COMING. HELL ON EARTH! If you want to comment on what's going on in the other threads you can always cut and paste the quoted text that you're replying to into this thread.
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Post by andrew on Aug 11, 2019 12:49:53 GMT -5
There's a conspiracies thread (called con-spear-acies or something like that) if you want to have a browse through it. A lot of the videos we posted there have now been deleted by youtube. There have been attempts to talk about the stuff you talk about here. I've followed Icke, understand a lot of what you are saying, but I come here for the intellectual spiritual stuff, and because I quite like the people (even though I argue with them). Interesting Epstein situation eh? Out of interest I searched on youtube yesterday for 'Epstein murdered', and took photos of the top 30 searches that came up. 75 percent alternative truth people. I will check again in a few days. Willing to bet that most of it is gone and we'll be left with cnn, fox, abc. I look at bit/chute these days, but I find Trump enthusiasts a bit of a pain. Even the attorney general of the United States is suspicious about this, so it's not a fringe thingy. A week or two ago, just prior to the horrendous shootings, an FBI document stated that conspiracy theories could be classified as 'domestic terrorism'. I find that to be a very dangerous idea. For me, if there's an obvious positive to the Epstein situation, it's that it could be a lot harder now to justify stopping 'conspiracy theories'.
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Post by laughter on Aug 11, 2019 14:02:08 GMT -5
Even the attorney general of the United States is suspicious about this, so it's not a fringe thingy. A week or two ago, just prior to the horrendous shootings, an FBI document stated that conspiracy theories could be classified as 'domestic terrorism'. I find that to be a very dangerous idea. For me, if there's an obvious positive to the Epstein situation, it's that it could be a lot harder now to justify stopping 'conspiracy theories'. Times are starting to get whacky. World history between 1890 and 1930 is an interesting one to find patterns in.
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Post by bluey on Aug 11, 2019 14:42:37 GMT -5
Yes this a good forum. And has the potential to be even better where seekers can come on board and be helped. There's also the other side just as any business or even yourself, myself including as you are a business in the sense you have running costs and have to get by. The forum, website has running costs so its easier when people do share over and at the same time genuine seekers can benefit meet with people like Tess Hughes, Art Ticknor and others who may have links to the retreats that are associated with this site. I say this as I was able to at some point promote Ian on here without a cost attached and it's helped in many ways. I do point people in their direction when asked on teachers. As a way of thanks. How would you run this site forum if it was your show. Taking into account the message behind it and running costs associated with it? if you wanna come off as a spiritual website, i would advise no censorship or control. that already smacks of non-spiritual thing is most people on this website are LOST IN THEIR HEADS without any real experiential knowledge. i do NOT notice many people on here with feelings. i do not come on here to be helped. i see enough about this world and i am complete. i believe as ugk the anti-guru. all gurus are conmen. he is correct! it is not that expensive to operate a website. i would also add TRULY SPIRITUAL PEOPLE DO NOT ENGAGE IN GROUP HIVE BEHAVIOR. you have a problem with that on this website. like i said before, you are all doing a CEREBRAL DANCE TOGETHER IN YOUR HEADS. the EGO HIDES IN THE HEAD. i can easily tell whether people are evolved or not. there are NOT many evolved on this website i have NEVER understood this NEED TO CONTROL. on the internet, police etc. i have NEVER felt the need to control another person. NEVER. so the control freaks i will NEVER understand i have NEVER engaged in GROUP-HIVE-BEHAVIOR, so i do not understand this GROUP nonsense that i see on forums like this. i always stand as an INDIVIDUAL. group mentality or hive mentality IS DANGEROUS. what is dangerous also is PEOPLE IN EGO POSING AS SPIRITUAL. THE EGO HIDES IN THE HEAD.
This is a good forum I don't agree that most are of a hive mind. As you are claiming to be homeless you will find there's a code of conduct even on the streets. And people are homeless for different reasons. But for those who are trying to unplug from the matrix they will still depend on the passers by who they may project as belonging to a hive mind for their daily essentials. I agree much on what you said on freedom of speech as freedom for one person to express his or her thoughts whilst another has to limit or filter their thoughts is not freedom of speech. Speakers corner in London is meant to be an area that prides itself on freedom of speech but not much of it goes on as most fights erupt especially over someone name calling someone's mother. I agree running a website may not cost much but it's still a cost, having retreats associated with them you will need a better presence on the World Wide Web And before you say the www was a government experiment. I am aware I've come across most from Diana's death, to climate change, 911, to European army etc David Icke is refreshing just as the film the matrix, V alien and people like Graham Hanco@k who play the role of shaking up much of what we view as real news against what can be a programme. Google will penalise you with certain words, certain words like whisky, or brandy describing colours we've found that's products are set back for adult content. That's their rules. The jester in a kings court used to be known as the joker of the court the mad man but he was able to see and mock both the king and ministers. As he would be aware of bridging the notes of one another together without the need of ones head being cut off. So I'm not against the man or woman who points out to the cows. Hey you know that lorry that pulls up after you've fed yourself on grass and convinced yourself the farmer is a gem you are going to be slaughtered after. This site does have great potential. It's title is spiritual teachers. Not anything else. The traffic isn't great certain backlinks driving traffic seem to be from a blog that's associated with Suzanne Segal. If you look at Osho he allowed much freedom in his ashram but even with all the freedom certain sannyasins went on to attempt to carry out actions that became the downfall. But at the same time certain sages like Ian, Tony Parsons, Shantam Dheeraj ( where the space allowed in his meditation to understand healing and the Tibetan lamas opened up their works which they didn't present to the outer world to exchange notes) Parbrahm is the word used in ancient texts, to go beyond bramhand. The egg of creation, the lord of the mind. I helped children after awakening, well two as I was off work for a while who came from troubled backgrounds but the association has been a sharing experience. They recently graduated but they understand this space as well as enjoying life how it presents itself. I don't know the scientific jargon they now share over but I enjoy seeing them in smart clothing where at one point the cards were stacked against them. And using a scientific language which goes beyond me. But the beauty of realisation it presents what's needed to share over. Like a business man I know we've been able to bring in more property for him yet I know nothing of property. Was it a part of me that needed to be healed serving the two children, yes you're damn right back then, but they served. Real freedom lies in knowing the true Self. All other activities serve but the latter is real freedom from what is. Certain teachers are one pointed and that's not a bad thing. As you will pass this teacher within and bow down to it. But the Essence is more a play on a deeper level. Thanks for sharing Bryan. I know you have a good heart.
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Post by bluey on Aug 14, 2019 17:39:15 GMT -5
Just one other thing Bryan. Sorry for the late reply work has been busy
In Birmingham from the marketplace we used to feed the homeless as we were there at 5 in the morning and they would be there passing through before the rush hour where they have spent the night knowing the cafes, business places will open up and move them on.
Not much has changed from serving but bigger players are on board now from QVC to Coach Barbour etc and it's the same play in one sense.
But the homeless we would tell them as we were in the sales game how to approach the group and not the man or woman who passed them by. As they stood a better chance as when you ask for help from a group you will get a better response. For if one says no in that group the others may frown upon that decision. It won't look too good. Especially for a guy trying to impress a woman in that group and vice versa.
There was a beautiful old lady in Birmingham she would always come up. When she opened up to us. As she was different. And everyone would tell us she was well off, met her partner as her first love but he had met someone else and she ended up on the streets.
Obviously we couldn't sell to her how to stop the group as she was there to teach us.
So we would buy her food, in the early morning hours. She never said much but a polite thank you as we were eager to hear her story but she would just say thank you in a posh voice.
One poem on the poetry board by Donna reflects all of this. The poem Gentleman Of The Road.
A part of it...
Gentleman Of The Road
I sit here upon this bench And watch the world go by Many people pass my way No one does stop to pry
They judge me on the way I look And think that I don't care The shabby clothes and worn out shoes And knots within my hair.....
Eckhart Tolle ended up on a bench like this. Not knowing what he was. A woman approached and felt she was being healed. And he said there was a time when I felt I was a healer. I know this as I had the same experience still do. But as more people came to see him they said you are a teacher. And he said maybe that's what I am 😂. But in the deepest stillness like Bulleh Shah said I know not what I Am
At work we have to do certain team building skills every so often Zzzzz
So I asked to do one on Eckhart Tolle
So they stripped down the traffic the eventbrite tickets the return on his set up etc
It's a good set up.
But as I was searching I came this video I want to share with you
on Bob Fergeson
Try and look him up. As I feel he has much to share over. A Gentleman Of The Road
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Post by IRUUR1 on Aug 14, 2019 22:43:34 GMT -5
Your observations are sound. I just got here today and saw your thread near the top. I do not know why others here are not joining in. I notice most of the thread is your thoughts. You are here because you think you are being poop controlled by the system. The freedom you seek is of course encased in the predicament you identify. The degree of what you view as control, out of phase with reality, is commensurate with what you perceive as reality. Or perhaps you view it as likely better of possible reality if people just woke up.
If you believe that there is no one reality other than the reality we create for ourselves I would mostly agree. You should start your path then, or continue it, in order to be the person in that reality you seek and begin to control that which you can. I have found there is a natural process to things. Being that which you require of others, is the first step to discovering that process. In this way you will find the intrinsic value of the things in the natural process and the value of yourself and the things of this world within our perception, in that process. The main mechanism for control of others is control of value. Only you can do that for yourself and you are right to resist the values of others.
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Post by zendancer on Aug 14, 2019 22:58:35 GMT -5
Just one other thing Bryan. Sorry for the late reply work has been busy In Birmingham from the marketplace we used to feed the homeless as we were there at 5 in the morning and they would be there passing through before the rush hour where they have spent the night knowing the cafes, business places will open up and move them on. Not much has changed from serving but bigger players are on board now from QVC to Coach Barbour etc and it's the same play in one sense. But the homeless we would tell them as we were in the sales game how to approach the group and not the man or woman who passed them by. As they stood a better chance as when you ask for help from a group you will get a better response. For if one says no in that group the others may frown upon that decision. It won't look too good. Especially for a guy trying to impress a woman in that group and vice versa. There was a beautiful old lady in Birmingham she would always come up. When she opened up to us. As she was different. And everyone would tell us she was well off, met her partner as her first love but he had met someone else and she ended up on the streets. Obviously we couldn't sell to her how to stop the group as she was there to teach us. So we would buy her food, in the early morning hours. She never said much but a polite thank you as we were eager to hear her story but she would just say thank you in a posh voice. One poem on the poetry board by Donna reflects all of this. The poem Gentleman Of The Road. A part of it... Gentleman Of The Road I sit here upon this bench And watch the world go by Many people pass my way No one does stop to pry They judge me on the way I look And think that I don't care The shabby clothes and worn out shoes And knots within my hair..... Eckhart Tolle ended up on a bench like this. Not knowing what he was. A woman approached and felt she was being healed. And he said there was a time when I felt I was a healer. I know this as I had the same experience still do. But as more people came to see him they said you are a teacher. And he said maybe that's what I am 😂. But in the deepest stillness like Bulleh Shah said I know not what I Am At work we have to do certain team building skills every so often Zzzzz So I asked to do one on Eckhart Tolle So they stripped down the traffic the eventbrite tickets the return on his set up etc It's a good set up. But as I was searching I came this video I want to share with you on Bob Fergeson Try and look him up. As I feel he has much to share over. A Gentleman Of The Road Yes, Ferguson is just one of several interesting explorers in the TAT group who found what he was looking for, and there are many others. It's a fun group of like-minded people focused on finding existential Truth, and the range of experiences and realizations is broad, to say the least. Lots of camaraderie and mutual respect. Each path is unique, but what what everyone is pointing to is the infinite embodied in the here and now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 13:08:44 GMT -5
Your observations are sound. I just got here today and saw your thread near the top. I do not know why others here are not joining in. I notice most of the thread is your thoughts. You are here because you think you are being poop controlled by the system. The freedom you seek is of course encased in the predicament you identify. The degree of what you view as control, out of phase with reality, is commensurate with what you perceive as reality. Or perhaps you view it as likely better of possible reality if people just woke up. If you believe that there is no one reality other than the reality we create for ourselves I would mostly agree. You should start your path then, or continue it, in order to be the person in that reality you seek and begin to control that which you can. I have found there is a natural process to things. Being that which you require of others, is the first step to discovering that process. In this way you will find the intrinsic value of the things in the natural process and the value of yourself and the things of this world within our perception, in that process. The main mechanism for control of others is control of value. Only you can do that for yourself and you are right to resist the values of others.Nice.
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