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Post by roydop on Nov 15, 2019 12:18:46 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS8v6jKPP68This is an example/metaphor of how the world manifests by awareness focusing back onto itself (something arising from nothing). I can't really simplify it more for you.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2019 12:59:57 GMT -5
How can a video show what is happening in your direct experience? You've used this forum at least twice before and I have never noticed you have this much difficulty with it on those occasions. Have you had an accident recently?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2019 13:00:51 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS8v6jKPP68This is an example/metaphor of how the world manifests by awareness focusing back onto itself (something arising from nothing). I can't really simplify it more for you. Right. So your world is arising out of your idea about what the world is. Did I get that right?
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Post by laughter on Nov 15, 2019 13:45:34 GMT -5
Kind of sad, and it seems to me a reflection of guilt. Generally. Yeah I'll buy that possibility. Guilt does go deeper than most ever wanna notice. An irony here is that at the ideological roots of the "left" are a revolution away from a morally-moribund Christian orthodoxy, and yet, that's where most of the shaming comes from these days. Personally, I've always felt that the "left/right" divide is mostly a sham. What's Labour's stance these days on foreign military intervention?
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Post by laughter on Nov 15, 2019 13:48:01 GMT -5
I think in general, most people who are even a little exposed to the data accept climate change. The real debate is whether it's human-caused or just part of a natural cycle of climate change. We probably have a "perfect storm" of both. Most of the CO2 on the planet is ~locked~ in the ground. With global warming, more and more of this will be released, then we're really screwed. Yes, the burning of fossil fuels has to stop. But this will be an economic thing, not ecological. When there is a source of fuel as cheap, or cheaper, we'll stop burning fossil fuels. So the answer is research and brain-power. I've said before here, the answer will be finding a cheap way to separate water into hydrogen and oxygen, then we have unlimited nonpoluting fuel. If I were a conspiracy person I say that has already been done but hidden by oil companies. But I'm not. But it needs to happen in the next ten years. We still have a narrow window to turn things around. How would separating water into oxygen and hydrogen solve the problem? Doesn;t the combustion of hydrogen create CO2? I suspect that Laughter's hope for fusion has more potential. Interesting, the first thing that pops into my head is how flammable both gases are when separated. edit: google is my friend .. oxygen isn't flammable, but, instead, the oxidation catalyzes flame ..
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Post by laughter on Nov 15, 2019 13:52:09 GMT -5
How would separating water into oxygen and hydrogen solve the problem? Doesn;t the combustion of hydrogen create CO2? I suspect that Laughter's hope for fusion has more potential. The combustion of hydrogen has only water as a byproduct, no CO2 (third paragraph in link). www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/06/it-s-clean-powerful-and-available-are-you-ready-for-hydrogen-energy/We have virtually unlimited water. The problem is that presently it costs too much to separate water into hydrogen and oxygen. Right, it's an energy thing .. which is rather "zen", in a colloquial sense of the word. But, it's a very interesting point to apply one's imagination toward, for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2019 13:53:58 GMT -5
Yeah I'll buy that possibility. Guilt does go deeper than most ever wanna notice. An irony here is that at the ideological roots of the "left" are a revolution away from a morally-moribund Christian orthodoxy, and yet, that's where most of the shaming comes from these days. Personally, I've always felt that the "left/right" divide is mostly a sham. What's Labour's stance these days on foreign military intervention? Yeah, the majority of the time they are just positions adopted through the defining of where the other's position ends. Last I heard Corbyn wants rid of Trident. Wants the US to sign a 'not-strike-first' policy over nuclear warheads. And they would have preferred it if Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi had been arrested and brought back for a trial.. ..
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Post by laughter on Nov 15, 2019 13:55:59 GMT -5
How would separating water into oxygen and hydrogen solve the problem? Doesn;t the combustion of hydrogen create CO2? I suspect that Laughter's hope for fusion has more potential. Laughter, could you link me. Sure. Bonus, July 4th.
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Post by laughter on Nov 15, 2019 14:00:59 GMT -5
An irony here is that at the ideological roots of the "left" are a revolution away from a morally-moribund Christian orthodoxy, and yet, that's where most of the shaming comes from these days. Personally, I've always felt that the "left/right" divide is mostly a sham. What's Labour's stance these days on foreign military intervention? Yeah, the majority of the time they are just positions adopted through the defining of where the other's position ends. Last I heard Corbyn wants rid of Trident. Wants the US to sign a 'not-strike-first' policy over nuclear warheads. And they would have preferred it if Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi had been arrested and brought back for a trial.. .. Well I find that encouraging at least. The military industrial complex has no natural predators!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2019 14:10:39 GMT -5
Yeah I'll buy that possibility. Guilt does go deeper than most ever wanna notice. An irony here is that at the ideological roots of the "left" are a revolution away from a morally-moribund Christian orthodoxy, and yet, that's where most of the shaming comes from these days. Personally, I've always felt that the "left/right" divide is mostly a sham. What's Labour's stance these days on foreign military intervention?
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Post by laughter on Nov 15, 2019 14:14:20 GMT -5
An irony here is that at the ideological roots of the "left" are a revolution away from a morally-moribund Christian orthodoxy, and yet, that's where most of the shaming comes from these days. Personally, I've always felt that the "left/right" divide is mostly a sham. What's Labour's stance these days on foreign military intervention? oh yeah .. and an old adage, I'm not sure who first said it, but it's likely inspired by Machiavelli: "you can always hire one half of the poor to kill the other half" ..
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2019 14:17:14 GMT -5
Yeah, the majority of the time they are just positions adopted through the defining of where the other's position ends. Last I heard Corbyn wants rid of Trident. Wants the US to sign a 'not-strike-first' policy over nuclear warheads. And they would have preferred it if Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi had been arrested and brought back for a trial.. .. Well I find that encouraging at least. The military industrial complex has no natural predators! Yeah, it's tragic.. because he does have a lot of good ideas. And he's bold enough to keep pushing at them. It's just that we know the radical ones as well and they are too out there for the British public to believe in. No. I'm sure we're all aware now, that it has to grow it's own enemies
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Post by laughter on Nov 15, 2019 14:18:24 GMT -5
How would separating water into oxygen and hydrogen solve the problem? Doesn't the combustion of hydrogen create CO2? I suspect that Laughter's hope for fusion has more potential. Right, it's a zero sum game just like growing trees and burning wood for heat. It - at least - doesn't make the problem any worse. All this talk about going carbon neutral by the year X doesn't deal with the excess CO2 that's currently in the atmosphere and that will be added between now and whenever we stop adding it. I'm keen to see more carbon negative projects. I read about sucking carbon out of the air and using it to manufacture vodka. Here, take my money. But I'd love to see it used to create carbon fibre we could use for building houses, cars, space elevators. That would really start sinking some tonnage. I'm also keen to see fusion power go mainstream, but again it just doesn't make the problem any worse. Or it might do actually, because whatever that power gets used for, it's eventually converted to heat. Also, hello! I've so little to say these days but I am still reading. Exploring a deeper sense of connection with the universe. And by deeper I mean it's stretching all the way down to my tummy Dr. Leo Marvin: ".. baby steps .."
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Post by laughter on Nov 15, 2019 14:21:58 GMT -5
Well I find that encouraging at least. The military industrial complex has no natural predators! Yeah, it's tragic.. because he does have a lot of good ideas. And he's bold enough to keep pushing at them. It's just that we know the radical ones as well and they are too out there for the British public to believe in. No. I'm sure we're all aware now, that it has to grow it's own enemies heh heh .. and none too late. .. not that there's any real, permanent relative resolution to the underlying problem. ( .. uh-oh .. should I frown instead?? )
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2019 14:33:15 GMT -5
Yeah, it's tragic.. because he does have a lot of good ideas. And he's bold enough to keep pushing at them. It's just that we know the radical ones as well and they are too out there for the British public to believe in. No. I'm sure we're all aware now, that it has to grow it's own enemies heh heh .. and none too late. .. not that there's any real, permanent relative resolution to the underlying problem. ( .. uh-oh .. should I frown instead?? )The way I understand it a country can only grow stronger through the strength of it's enemies.. so no, while a country continues with a wish to grow in might, which naturally every nation must have a want to experience through one age or another.. the growing of enemies must continue.
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