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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2022 7:10:15 GMT -5
Though providing work for the local sculptor is a fine idea why commission the statue of 'a person'? Someone in favor with the populous today might be crudaded against somewhere down the road, and then that group of people will have a statue tearing down event. For example, the elementary school I went to had been named for a popular Confederate general from around here once, but then after a pitchfork uprising it's now named for a dead preacher. People are fickle. I agree that people are led by the 'right' of the day. Cultures are changing so quickly at the moment that yeah, there's the possibility of the Powhatan being out of favour by the turn of the decade. Let's hope not though. Have just run a wik search on Powhatan, that was the name of the peoples hey? And Wahunsenacawh was their leader? Sorry I did think Powhatan was the name of an individual.. doh!  Thanks, names are funny, they mean different things to different people. You probably don't see as much untouched by human hands ever landscape as I do here. (I mean Great Britain has been well explored, and fought over, for the most part, yeah?) But since many thousands of years is a long time, and many generations have come and gone, it is more than likely someone has been by here before.. they just didn't leave a mark, which I like. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2022 7:35:20 GMT -5
I agree that people are led by the 'right' of the day. Cultures are changing so quickly at the moment that yeah, there's the possibility of the Powhatan being out of favour by the turn of the decade. Let's hope not though. Have just run a wik search on Powhatan, that was the name of the peoples hey? And Wahunsenacawh was their leader? Sorry I did think Powhatan was the name of an individual.. doh! Thanks, names are funny, they mean different things to different people. You probably don't see as much untouched by human hands ever landscape as I do here. (I mean Great Britain has been well explored, and fought over, for the most part, yeah?) But since many thousands of years is a long time, and many generations have come and gone, it is more than likely someone has been by here before.. they just didn't leave a mark, which I like. Yeah there's still challenging landscapes here though a lot of it is managed, you're right. Scotland, where Satch is from, probably has the most unchanged terrain in the British Isles, though Southern Ireland would possibly challenge that narrative. It's a beautiful land, a lot of coastline, being islands an all We have villages here that are hundreds of years old so we still have some sense of the generations that inhabited them. We still have church buildings from a 1,000 years ago. That gives you some idea of how much heritage we've lost over the centuries. Though yeah I understand, you get to feel a Wilderness that is wild in an ancient sense, not a crazy sense |
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Post by laughter on Jul 31, 2022 9:44:13 GMT -5
Didn't use it in the 80's but yeah, I rode Rudy's version all the time. I hear it's back to the '70's now. You can get away with surface stuff as a tourist. You stay in the theater district (west of 6th between 38th-45th), maybe visit the village, see the sights near the exchange, there's a great view from above ground at the Jersey city stop on the Path, a very short trip. The south street seaport near there is fun, shopping and sights, and from the Battery you can get a view of the whole harbor system. You can take a cab or a bus to go down town. Trick with cabs is to go off-rush hour. Same as visiting the Met, you can walk to the Moma and the southern end of the Central Park. If you go to the Met you can walk to the base of the Lake at the Bow Bridge and you'll think you're in a movie. Same with the poet's walk a few dozen yards to the south from there. You might think "why go to a park if I came here for the City", but trust me, it's on a whole 'nother scale. I'd recommend the Whitney and the Guuggenheim if you go up town. Bucket list thing now I guess. We'll see. Shouldn't be a big deal its under 400 miles (but traffic congestion has reached peak annoyance in that corridor) There's the Acela. Penn Station is in reasonable walking distance to the theater district, but, get there mid-morning. I remember the looks of the tourists once back in the 80's, walking out onto the street a half block down from the taxi stand and hailin' one (cabbies don't like waiting in line either).  |
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Post by laughter on Jul 31, 2022 9:48:54 GMT -5
Didn't use it in the 80's but yeah, I rode Rudy's version all the time. I hear it's back to the '70's now. You can get away with surface stuff as a tourist. You stay in the theater district (west of 6th between 38th-45th), maybe visit the village, see the sights near the exchange, there's a great view from above ground at the Jersey city stop on the Path, a very short trip. The south street seaport near there is fun, shopping and sights, and from the Battery you can get a view of the whole harbor system. You can take a cab or a bus to go down town. Trick with cabs is to go off-rush hour. Same as visiting the Met, or, you can walk to the Moma and the southern end of the Central Park. If you go to the Met you can walk to the base of the Lake at the Bow Bridge and you'll think you're in a movie. Same with the poet's walk a few dozen yards to the south from there. You might think "why go to a park if I came here for the City", but trust me, it's on a whole 'nother scale. I'd recommend the Whitney and the Guuggenheim if you go up town. For a place that has its own tax plan they sure do cheap out on infrastructure repair. I wouldn't want to be on that island during a wicked storm. It's the same as with New Orleans that way, the eye wall has to go right over a narrow corridor, but when it does, it does. They're (well, we're +fed+state+nj) spending an eyewatering amount to build a new Hudson tunnel, even by todays standards. The one thing that is a puzzler is that they could expand subway capacity by some multiple if they replaced the ancient switching system. |
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Post by laughter on Aug 2, 2022 3:37:27 GMT -5
Thanks, names are funny, they mean different things to different people. You probably don't see as much untouched by human hands ever landscape as I do here. (I mean Great Britain has been well explored, and fought over, for the most part, yeah?) But since many thousands of years is a long time, and many generations have come and gone, it is more than likely someone has been by here before.. they just didn't leave a mark, which I like. Yeah there's still challenging landscapes here though a lot of it is managed, you're right. Scotland, where Satch is from, probably has the most unchanged terrain in the British Isles, though Southern Ireland would possibly challenge that narrative. It's a beautiful land, a lot of coastline, being islands an all We have villages here that are hundreds of years old so we still have some sense of the generations that inhabited them. We still have church buildings from a 1,000 years ago. That gives you some idea of how much heritage we've lost over the centuries. Though yeah I understand, you get to feel a Wilderness that is wild in an ancient sense, not a crazy sense There's a fascinating confluence going on between the new, cross-disciplinary historical narratives (archeology, anthropology, genetics) that are emerging, and ancient Irish "myth". Each tell the tale of three different waves of invasion (my connections here are quite simplistic and speculative and by no means conventional): Fir Bolg => pre-neolithic hunter/gather's Tuatha De Danann => neolithic farmers Sons of Mil => bronze age culture that eventually became the "Celts" The myths are actually quite a bit more involved than all of this, and in parts quite fantastical, but there is this one myth/story in particular about the replacement of the "management" at Newgrange which is quite tantalizing. |
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Post by laughter on Aug 2, 2022 3:43:52 GMT -5
I agree that people are led by the 'right' of the day. Cultures are changing so quickly at the moment that yeah, there's the possibility of the Powhatan being out of favour by the turn of the decade. Let's hope not though. Have just run a wik search on Powhatan, that was the name of the peoples hey? And Wahunsenacawh was their leader? Sorry I did think Powhatan was the name of an individual.. doh! Thanks, names are funny, they mean different things to different people. You probably don't see as much untouched by human hands ever landscape as I do here. (I mean Great Britain has been well explored, and fought over, for the most part, yeah?) But since many thousands of years is a long time, and many generations have come and gone, it is more than likely someone has been by here before.. they just didn't leave a mark, which I like. The landscape here in the Mohawk Valley likely bears some similarity to parts of England. There is an older road that parallels the "Thruway" (rt 90), and driving along it you're never at most perhaps a mile in between structures in all but a few stretches along the east/west line. But if you go north or south a few hundred yards in most places even just a few miles outside of the towns it's quite possible to get lost. "Wilderness" is sort of a matter of degree in this way. The rabbit and deer populations on the college campus we walk enjoys the benefits of a very bucolic gun-free zone. Saw a rooster along the trail the other day that had likely escaped from a farm across the road. On the flip side, the scale of some of the industrial wastelands that weave into large metropolis can be quite stunning, and it's amazing just how ugly-beautiful some of them really are in the suspension of comparison mind. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2022 3:54:09 GMT -5
Thanks, names are funny, they mean different things to different people. You probably don't see as much untouched by human hands ever landscape as I do here. (I mean Great Britain has been well explored, and fought over, for the most part, yeah?) But since many thousands of years is a long time, and many generations have come and gone, it is more than likely someone has been by here before.. they just didn't leave a mark, which I like. The landscape here in the Mohawk Valley likely bears some similarity to parts of England. There is an older road that parallels the "Thruway" (rt 90), and driving along it you're never at most perhaps a mile in between structures in all but a few stretches along the east/west line. But if you go north or south a few hundred yards in most places even just a few miles outside of the towns it's quite possible to get lost. "Wilderness" is sort of a matter of degree in this way. The rabbit and deer populations on the college campus we walk enjoys the benefits of a very bucolic gun-free zone. Saw a rooster along the trail the other day that had likely escaped from a farm across the road. On the flip side, the scale of some of the industrial wastelands that weave into large metropolis can be quite stunning, and it's amazing just how ugly-beautiful some of them really are in the suspension of comparison mind. What is your interpretation of the '40 days in the wilderness' allegory? |
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Post by laughter on Aug 2, 2022 4:37:48 GMT -5
The landscape here in the Mohawk Valley likely bears some similarity to parts of England. There is an older road that parallels the "Thruway" (rt 90), and driving along it you're never at most perhaps a mile in between structures in all but a few stretches along the east/west line. But if you go north or south a few hundred yards in most places even just a few miles outside of the towns it's quite possible to get lost. "Wilderness" is sort of a matter of degree in this way. The rabbit and deer populations on the college campus we walk enjoys the benefits of a very bucolic gun-free zone. Saw a rooster along the trail the other day that had likely escaped from a farm across the road. On the flip side, the scale of some of the industrial wastelands that weave into large metropolis can be quite stunning, and it's amazing just how ugly-beautiful some of them really are in the suspension of comparison mind. What is your interpretation of the '40 days in the wilderness' allegory? Ah, "wasteland", right? When the conditioning at the core of the illusion is "seen through" or "fails" or whatever way to describe it .. well .. you know. There can be a reverb. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2022 8:09:35 GMT -5
What is your interpretation of the '40 days in the wilderness' allegory? Ah, "wasteland", right? When the conditioning at the core of the illusion is "seen through" or "fails" or whatever way to describe it .. well .. you know. There can be a reverb. I guess no reverb in a vacuum, but maybe fun to think about our whines reverbing out across the universe |
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Post by laughter on Aug 2, 2022 9:19:14 GMT -5
Ah, "wasteland", right? When the conditioning at the core of the illusion is "seen through" or "fails" or whatever way to describe it .. well .. you know. There can be a reverb. I guess no reverb in a vacuum, but maybe fun to think about our whines reverbing out across the universe (** chuckless chuckle **) |
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Post by laughter on Aug 6, 2022 15:15:58 GMT -5
Oh Andrew. You have such a vivid imagination. Best just to stick with what you know of everyday life. You see a cat. End of story. You're a funny guy sometimes <gopal>  </gopal> I'd offer the admittedly negative colorful opinion that you and satch have allowed yourselves become figglets catspaws.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2022 15:30:31 GMT -5
You're a funny guy sometimes <gopal> </gopal> I'd offer the admittedly negative colorful opinion that you and satch have allowed yourselves become figglets catspaws. Were there any other roles available? |
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Post by laughter on Aug 6, 2022 15:48:43 GMT -5
<gopal> </gopal> I'd offer the admittedly negative colorful opinion that you and satch have allowed yourselves become figglets catspaws. Were there any other roles available? Why yes, both available and also assumed at various intervals. The pages tell the tale. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2022 16:11:54 GMT -5
Were there any other roles available? Why yes, both available and also assumed at various intervals. The pages tell the tale. Ahh, yeah.. if only we'd got a really good dumpster diver around these parts, eh? |
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Post by laughter on Aug 6, 2022 23:36:43 GMT -5
Why yes, both available and also assumed at various intervals. The pages tell the tale. Ahh, yeah.. if only we'd got a really good dumpster diver around these parts, eh?  |
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