Jed Quotes.

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“The misconception about enlightenment stems from, or is at least compounded by, the fact that most of the world’s recognized experts on the subject of enlightenment are not enlightened. Some are great mystics, some are great scholars, some are both, and most are neither, but very few are awake. This core misconception will be a big theme in this book because it’s the primary obstacle in the quest for enlightenment. Nobody’s getting there because nobody knows where there is, and those who are entrusted to point the way are, for a variety of reasons, pointing the wrong way. At the very heart of this confusion lies the belief that abiding non-dual awareness—enlightenment—and the non-abiding experience of cosmic consciousness—mystic union—are synonymous when, in fact, they’re completely unrelated.”

~ Spiritual Enlightenment: The Dam_nedest Thing.

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“I know were all intelligent people, but intelligence is a curious thing in the dreamstate: can't live with it. can't live without it. It's like an icepick in a balloon store. We have to push it into a cork or things are gonna start poppin'. That's the real point of all spirituality and religion and philosophy: they are the safe corks into which we can bury the sharp points of our minds. This self-inflicted dulling of the wit is how we constantly cast our own sleep spell. No one else is doing it to us. There is no magic behind our delusion except the magic we conjure with our own emotional energy. If we stop weaving our enchantment. we start waking up. and that is the last thing we want to happen. even though it may be our stated intent. Whatever we might say, we don't want things to start poppin”

~ Spiritual Warfare

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“The material I teach presents no problems or challenges for me. That’s what being a master means, I suppose. I know this stuff front and back, in and out. I could teach it in my sleep and maybe I do. What is a challenge is how the information is received. Most or all of what I say fits into the receiving brain in a particular place, but there’s always something already there. It’s never an empty slot just waiting to be filled. Not only will every slot already be filled, but there will also be security—probably very tight security—guarding it. If I taught English Lit to eighth graders it would just be a matter of keeping it interesting so the connection stayed open while I uploaded new info, but this is different. No one comes here for their first exposure to the spiritual dimension. Everyone comes pre-educated and the education they arrive with is, for all practical purposes, worse than useless. That’s what I deal with and I’m not a master of cranial lock-picking, I just try hard to do my bit and know that success and failure is out of my hands.”

~ Spiritual Enlightenment: The Dam_nedest Thing

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“It is your show.

It is your universe.
There is no one else here, just you,
and nothing is being withheld from you.
You are completely on your own.
Everything is available for direct knowing.
No one else has anything you need.
No one else can lead you, pull you, push you or carry you.”

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“I don’t have something you don’t; you believe something I don’t.”

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“There’s nothing left to contend against and nothing left that must be done, and there will never be anything that must be done ever again.”

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“If you don't want to sleep your life away like most people do. you have to train yourself to wakefulness. Vigilance is the key. You should be shifting from character to actor many times every hour, in all types of situations, so that it happens smoothly and easily and doesn't detract from your performance." Maggie takes notes and asks for clarification now and then. I wait and proceed when she's ready. "Second." I say. "it trains you to disidentify from the character you're playing. There's a you behind the character you project out into the world, and you can't make any progress as long as you identify with your stage persona. You're an actor playing a character on a stage. That's what the Bhagavad-GIta is all about.”

~ Spiritual Warfare.

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Jan 4, 2017 17:02:06 GMT -5 @bakk said:

“The misconception about enlightenment stems from, or is at least compounded by, the fact that most of the world’s recognized experts on the subject of enlightenment are not enlightened. Some are great mystics, some are great scholars, some are both, and most are neither, but very few are awake. This core misconception will be a big theme in this book because it’s the primary obstacle in the quest for enlightenment. Nobody’s getting there because nobody knows where there is, and those who are entrusted to point the way are, for a variety of reasons, pointing the wrong way. At the very heart of this confusion lies the belief that abiding non-dual awareness—enlightenment—and the non-abiding experience of cosmic consciousness—mystic union—are synonymous when, in fact, they’re completely unrelated.”

~ Spiritual Enlightenment: The Dam_nedest Thing.

I don't know. I like Jed's books to a point. It would have been more authentic if he used his real name which is A.T. from Richard Rose flock. That being said no one not me ZD, Satch, Andrew etc is saying a CC experience is the same as SR. However it is possible because I was there for a CC to give the result of being SR. I also don't believe that being SR is such a rare gem as he points out.
My 3 cents worth

ps I will say it's nice to see a thread of his posts vs the KC stuff we been underwater with lately so thanks for that.

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Jan 4, 2017 17:22:01 GMT -5 @awakesowhat said:

Jan 4, 2017 17:02:06 GMT -5 @bakk said:

“The misconception about enlightenment stems from, or is at least compounded by, the fact that most of the world’s recognized experts on the subject of enlightenment are not enlightened. Some are great mystics, some are great scholars, some are both, and most are neither, but very few are awake. This core misconception will be a big theme in this book because it’s the primary obstacle in the quest for enlightenment. Nobody’s getting there because nobody knows where there is, and those who are entrusted to point the way are, for a variety of reasons, pointing the wrong way. At the very heart of this confusion lies the belief that abiding non-dual awareness—enlightenment—and the non-abiding experience of cosmic consciousness—mystic union—are synonymous when, in fact, they’re completely unrelated.”

~ Spiritual Enlightenment: The Dam_nedest Thing.

I don't know. I like Jed's books to a point. It would have been more authentic if he used his real name which is A.T. from Richard Rose flock. That being said no one not me ZD, Satch, Andrew etc is saying a CC experience is the same as SR. However it is possible because I was there for a CC to give the result of being SR. I also don't believe that being SR is such a rare gem as he points out.
My 3 cents worth

ps I will say it's nice to see a thread of his posts vs the KC stuff we been underwater with lately so thanks for that.

He's not talking about realising that all is Self. He's writing about living within it.

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Jan 4, 2017 17:58:59 GMT -5 @bakk said:

Jan 4, 2017 17:22:01 GMT -5 @awakesowhat said:

I don't know. I like Jed's books to a point. It would have been more authentic if he used his real name which is A.T. from Richard Rose flock. That being said no one not me ZD, Satch, Andrew etc is saying a CC experience is the same as SR. However it is possible because I was there for a CC to give the result of being SR. I also don't believe that being SR is such a rare gem as he points out.
My 3 cents worth

ps I will say it's nice to see a thread of his posts vs the KC stuff we been underwater with lately so thanks for that.

He's not talking about realising that all is Self. He's writing about living within it.

Correct still the same he is saying abiding in non dual awareness and abiding in CC seem to be the same for most and I said some of us are not saying this.

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"The ocean cannot violate the idea of an ocean. If there is conflict between idea and actual, then the idea is in error. The ocean cannot be in error because what it does is what it is. "

~ Spiritual Warfare

The bolded is another excellent pointer. It applies to us too. 

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Jan 4, 2017 20:48:33 GMT -5 penny said:

"The ocean cannot violate the idea of an ocean. If there is conflict between idea and actual, then the idea is in error. The ocean cannot be in error because what it does is what it is. "

~ Spiritual Warfare

The bolded is another excellent pointer. It applies to us too. 

I-deas are just the minds imagination.  One endeavors to work things-out within their mind.  So long are the person is aware that they have entered the laboratory, they can step right-out having proved whatever they went in for.  A problem arises when that person locks themselves-in, thinking this is my reality.  Its only the mind that affixes with ideas and this is the root-meaning of belief.

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“Bob is talking about alternative people. Alternative beliefs and outlooks, alternative business and politics, alternative lifestyles and healthcare. alternative foods and fabrics, alternative child-rearing and schooling, alternative fuels and energies—alternative everything, basically, but not very alternative. These are alternatives within the established paradigm. not alternatives to it: a subherd running in parallel to the main body. Rather than detaching from their ego structures, alternative people merely reshape them along more heart-felt and self-centric lines, their multivarious goals and ideals reducing to personal happiness via the removal, avoidance and denial of unhappiness.”

Spiritual Warfare.

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“When we believe in the world outside of ourselves, gain is often perceived as good and loss as bad. When we stop believing in a world external to self, that reverses: gain becomes bad and loss becomes good. Nothing we can lose was ever ours in the first place. All we can ever lose is illusion.”

Spiritual Warfare.

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"This is about unknowing. All this so-called knowledge is exactly what stands between seeker and sought."