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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 4:07:44 GMT -5
The momentary rising of a thought or feeling whether it be irritation, hunger, thirst, love etc has nothing to do with being free. Hunger,thirst are not a problem, but irritation is the problem. As for as Love I have nothing to say, because Enigma speaks about some impersonal love which i haven't experienced in the way he portrayed. It's not a problem because it has nothing to do with ME. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 4:08:31 GMT -5
No, irritation this is the label to suffering, this doesn't arises if you know you can't do anything, but unhappiness happens for sure. Okay, so when unhappiness arises, what do you do to address it? Listen to music? Go for a walk? Or perhaps notice that it's all ordained? Or something else? No no, unhappiness is not a problem, when you see a movie, you would get unhappy when some sad situation happens, would you take a walk inside the cinema theater to remove your unhappiness?huh? |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 4:09:10 GMT -5
Okay, so when unhappiness arises, what do you do to address it? Listen to music? Go for a walk? Or perhaps notice that it's all ordained? Or something else? No no, unhappiness is not a problem, when you see a movie, you would get unhappy when some sad situation happens, would you take a walk inside the cinema theater to remove your unhappiness?huh? LOL |
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Post by andrew on May 15, 2015 4:09:16 GMT -5
Okay, so when unhappiness arises, what do you do to address it? Listen to music? Go for a walk? Or perhaps notice that it's all ordained? Or something else? There is no such thing as unhappiness. There is only a disconnection from happiness which is your natural state. That's fine, but gopal said that unhappiness arises, so I'm wondering what he does when it happens. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 4:09:50 GMT -5
There is no such thing as unhappiness. There is only a disconnection from happiness which is your natural state. That's fine, but gopal said that unhappiness arises, so I'm wondering what he does when it happens. Well he's wrong. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 4:09:53 GMT -5
Okay, so when unhappiness arises, what do you do to address it? Listen to music? Go for a walk? Or perhaps notice that it's all ordained? Or something else? There is no such thing as unhappiness. There is only a disconnection from happiness which is your natural state. Happiness and unhappiness is inevitable part of our life. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 4:10:20 GMT -5
There is no such thing as unhappiness. There is only a disconnection from happiness which is your natural state. Happiness and unhappiness is inevitable part of our life. NO |
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Post by andrew on May 15, 2015 4:11:25 GMT -5
Yes it does, but in the moment it arises, I'm wondering what the organism does to address it. For example, is it observed and allowed to pass? Or do you (or gopal) squeeze a stress ball and it's gone? I'm addressing what gopal said about removing (or gaining) stuff. I'm trying to find where that begins and ends, for example, if there is an itch, scratching it removes it, and I'm sure that's fine. No, it's being created by consciousness out of wrong belief that you could resolve the problem, so resolver would come into being. But the real problem is this resolver. Are you saying that your body never gets an itch? I mean literally, your skin gets a bit itchy and so you scratch it. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 4:12:40 GMT -5
I am saying this practicer is there, but problem would be resolved only when this practiser dies. "But the second step is to go beyond that when you acquiesce in the silence prior to volitional thought." Your consciousness is always focus on appearances, so it can't go anywhere. Consciousness is both silent and dynamic. Portray whatever you want. Silent,Dynamic,sitting,standing,running but to me consciousness is always perceiving and that's what I am seeing directly. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 4:14:30 GMT -5
Consciousness is both silent and dynamic. Portray whatever you want. Silent,Dynamic,sitting,standing,running but to me consciousness is always perceiving and that's what I am seeing directly. Yes a billion things. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 4:14:46 GMT -5
Have you read the book named 'power of now' by Tolle? he says that we could escape the suffering by concentrating on the present movement, But what I realized was, that's also another mind fantasy because it's exactly know where to end. Sounds like turning the t.v. over to another channel trying to escape the adverts but one still remains watching t.v. lols .. True. |
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Post by andrew on May 15, 2015 4:14:54 GMT -5
Okay, so when unhappiness arises, what do you do to address it? Listen to music? Go for a walk? Or perhaps notice that it's all ordained? Or something else? No no, unhappiness is not a problem, when you see a movie, you would get unhappy when some sad situation happens, would you take a walk inside the cinema theater to remove your unhappiness?huh? Is unhappiness the same thing as sadness to you? When sadness arises here, I tend to become a bit quiet, I notice it and allow it, and recognize what I am feeling sad about...maybe there will be tears. In the old days, if sadness arose, I would have possibly done something different. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 4:16:07 GMT -5
Happiness and unhappiness is inevitable part of our life. NO I guess you are not in Earth? Are you in Earth which is a spherical shape? |
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Post by andrew on May 15, 2015 4:16:43 GMT -5
That's fine, but gopal said that unhappiness arises, so I'm wondering what he does when it happens. Well he's wrong. If he says it arises, why is he wrong? |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 4:17:04 GMT -5
No no, unhappiness is not a problem, when you see a movie, you would get unhappy when some sad situation happens, would you take a walk inside the cinema theater to remove your unhappiness?huh? Is unhappiness the same thing as sadness to you? When sadness arises here, I tend to become a bit quiet, I notice it and allow it, and recognize what I am feeling sad about...maybe there will be tears. In the old days, if sadness arose, I would have possibly done something different. It doesn't matter what you do with your sadness. Is it who you are, is the only important question. |
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