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Post by ahenshaw on Oct 25, 2009 16:11:14 GMT -5
Hello All,
I listened to Mr. Harding's CD and it just blew right by me. Has anybody had this experience and then understood his wisdom sometime later?
Peace, Alice
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Post by souley on Oct 27, 2009 14:53:59 GMT -5
Do the simple finger-pointer experiment and some other experiments, www.headless.org/experiments/pointing.htmI have tried it with some people and it often has no effect whatsoever. It's hard when you look too much for something, try to be open. The headless thing and Harding in general is very unconventional and annoyingly simple, so it doesn't appeal to everyone. I'm sure he wouldn't mind that though, just as long as you try some experiments  |
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Post by souley on Oct 27, 2009 14:58:48 GMT -5
I realize I didn't really answer your question. Basically I did some experiments, didn't get it, did some again, then one of the experiments had a special effect.
The headless thing can be really hard to grasp, it is way too simple to admit. But for me it has grown a lot. Many times I have thought that Harding is just trying to point to something metaphorically by being overly simple, and then later realized that it really is that simple.
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Post by vacant on Oct 28, 2009 16:17:27 GMT -5
I started to read Harding over a year ago now and fell in love with him instantly: the endless humor, wonderful craft of language and resolute devil-may-care attitude. Of course that's just the persona, he's a comedian, but if you pay attention he's all about PRACTICE. Out of the character you do get inspiration (satsang), out of what he says you get relentless exhortation to come back, come back, and come back again to the vision FROM the empty inner space.
I agree with you Souley that you cannot get Harding unless you try the experiments (I admit I do not get much further than pointing and double pointing but that's plenty enough to zap me!) which are a simple way to put a short circuit across the thinking merry-go-round and have an instantaneous vision of the "What' So, the Plainly Given, the Blatantly Obvious" (quoting him).
It's a very abrupt meditation technique but I find it greatly useful when walking in crowded inner-city. He calls it "meditation for the market place". And he begs for the listener not to be fooled by the simplicity, not to use it as an excuse for dismissal...
I like a variety of influences to toss and turn and trick the false self, but Harding provides me with tools that I'm frequently thankful to have in my toolbox.
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Post by elduderino on Dec 24, 2009 3:03:04 GMT -5
Hello, Alice.
Yes, I had a similar experience. It took me over a year to really appreciate the value and power of Harding's experiments. I have a great respect for the man now, though I still do not like his expression of the meaning of experiments. Yet he was very wise indeed. He discovered something new, described in detail this new way. How could he do better? As I see it now, experiments are the fruit, so to say. We can enjoy them and build whatever philosophical system we want based on them. It doesn't matter. What matters is that vast sea of nothingness you discover when you practice this meditation.
P.S. I hardly doubt one will ever become enlightened by practicing the experiments but at least they bring peace.
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Post by m on Nov 29, 2010 15:18:14 GMT -5
I just red Harding's book in 1970, and found it too simple to be real and probably misleading. In 1990, I went to one workshop. I found a man who did not pretend he was enlightened and was full of what, in France we call "british humour".
doing the exercices, i got it 100%.
But not because of the exercices. I more think they are very good "non-verbal pointers" for those who are on the point to get it. if you don't get it right away, I don't think training can do much except leading you to "build a head on you (no-)head". Which apparently was what was happening with most followers ( and even leaders) I met at the time.
Douglas himself said, at that time that he just had some kind of hard suffering few days before and couln't get rid of his head :-)...
As a seeker i am thankful to him, as a trainer, I appreciate the "tools-pointers", as a man I liked him very much.
m
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Post by sharon on May 24, 2012 11:22:43 GMT -5
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Post by esponja on Sept 13, 2012 8:32:22 GMT -5
Thinking of attending a two day workshop with Richard Lang, am a bit undecided. What do you all think? Worth attending.
(cost $100 Aud)
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Post by runstill on Sept 13, 2012 10:54:50 GMT -5
Thinking of attending a two day workshop with Richard Lang, am a bit undecided. What do you all think? Worth attending. (cost $100 Aud) Definitely attend> $100.00 for two days is reasonable , Tolle asks way more than that for his sat-sangs. You will meet very interesting people if nothing else. Hardings teachings have value, it seems his approach is a physical type thing similar to driving a race car at 170 mph the mind stops thinking and there is just what is. |
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Post by esponja on Sept 13, 2012 18:17:02 GMT -5
Thinking of attending a two day workshop with Richard Lang, am a bit undecided. What do you all think? Worth attending. (cost $100 Aud) Definitely attend> $100.00 for two days is reasonable , Tolle asks way more than that for his sat-sangs. You will meet very interesting people if nothing else. Hardings teachings have value, it seems his approach is a physical type thing similar to driving a race car at 170 mph the mind stops thinking and there is just what is. Yeah thanks I will and you're right I will meet like-minded people which will be good. |
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Post by nobody on Sept 15, 2012 11:44:16 GMT -5
Yes definitely go! I saw richard here Colorado a couple months ago. He's a nice guy,
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Post by sharon on Dec 7, 2012 19:55:30 GMT -5
The workshop in Perth, in October was filmed. There are a 13 videos in total. |
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Post by earnest on Dec 7, 2012 22:33:13 GMT -5
nice - thanks Sharon
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Post by Reefs on Dec 8, 2012 0:54:00 GMT -5
I've heard that Reefs is going to charge $100,000. So $100 is definitely a bargain. ;D
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Post by sharon on Dec 8, 2012 5:49:31 GMT -5
Welcome |
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