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Post by stardustpilgrim on Aug 9, 2014 20:30:14 GMT -5
The first program this season of Through the Wormhole with Morgan Freeman was about zombies, that was about 5 weeks ago. It was not very memorable except near the end there was a psychologist who said that we are mostly a zombie. He said on a good day we are 97% zombie and on a bad day we are 98% zombie. How did he arrive at this conclusion? He said most of what we think, feel and do is from pre-recorded conditioning, habits, almost all thought is pre-recorded. He also said that if our friends and family and co-workers lost the 2%-3% non-zombie part, or even ourselves, we probably wouldn't even notice.
So what is the non-zombie part? It's what we were born with, pure, undiluted awareness. It's Tzu's still mind. For most of us most of the time thought is operating, recorded words, repeating tape-loops. Our awareness is constantly captured by thought. The 97%-98% zombie we generally refer to as ego.
The zombie is not free, is subject to determinism. To get to the 2%-3% we have to get sick and tired of being the zombie, we have to come to hate the zombie. Why? Are you unhappy? Do you suffer? The zombie is responsible.
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Post by silver on Aug 9, 2014 20:52:20 GMT -5
The first program this season of Through the Wormhole with Morgan Freeman was about zombies, that was about 5 weeks ago. It was not very memorable except near the end there was a psychologist who said that we are mostly a zombie. He said on a good day we are 97% zombie and on a bad day we are 98% zombie. How did he arrive at this conclusion? He said most of what we think, feel and do is from pre-recorded conditioning, habits, almost all thought is pre-recorded. He also said that if our friends and family and co-workers lost the 2%-3% non-zombie part, or even ourselves, we probably wouldn't even notice. So what is the non-zombie part? It's what we were born with, pure, undiluted awareness. It's Tzu's still mind. For most of us most of the time thought is operating, recorded words, repeating tape-loops. Our awareness is constantly captured by thought. The 97%-98% zombie we generally refer to as ego. The zombie is not free, is subject to determinism. To get to the 2%-3% we have to get sick and tired of being the zombie, we have to come to hate the zombie. Why? Are you unhappy? Do you suffer? The zombie is responsible. sdp There is just a plethora of catch-phrases like zombie these days, compliments to the media. They don't tell us much more than we already are aware of, and I think it is such a disservice to what 'we' are. To you, ego = zombie, your giving ego this negative connotation, instead of making 'friends' with all of our 'parts'. I like this: "It's what we were born with, pure, undiluted awareness," and yet I have my doubts about the part: "Our awareness is constantly captured by thought." More food for thought?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2014 21:13:27 GMT -5
The first program this season of Through the Wormhole with Morgan Freeman was about zombies, that was about 5 weeks ago. It was not very memorable except near the end there was a psychologist who said that we are mostly a zombie. He said on a good day we are 97% zombie and on a bad day we are 98% zombie. How did he arrive at this conclusion? He said most of what we think, feel and do is from pre-recorded conditioning, habits, almost all thought is pre-recorded. He also said that if our friends and family and co-workers lost the 2%-3% non-zombie part, or even ourselves, we probably wouldn't even notice. So what is the non-zombie part? It's what we were born with, pure, undiluted awareness. It's Tzu's still mind. For most of us most of the time thought is operating, recorded words, repeating tape-loops. Our awareness is constantly captured by thought. The 97%-98% zombie we generally refer to as ego. The zombie is not free, is subject to determinism. To get to the 2%-3% we have to get sick and tired of being the zombie, we have to come to hate the zombie. Why? Are you unhappy? Do you suffer? The zombie is responsible. sdp There is just a plethora of catch-phrases like zombie these days, compliments to the media. They don't tell us much more than we already are aware of, and I think it is such a disservice to what 'we' are. To you, ego = zombie, your giving ego this negative connotation, instead of making 'friends' with all of our 'parts'. I like this: "It's what we were born with, pure, undiluted awareness," and yet I have my doubts about the part: "Our awareness is constantly captured by thought." More food for thought? The term zombie in this context doesn't mean an animated corpse, but rather an old philosophical idea of an automaton lacking free will, self awareness, etc.
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Post by silver on Aug 9, 2014 21:28:38 GMT -5
There is just a plethora of catch-phrases like zombie these days, compliments to the media. They don't tell us much more than we already are aware of, and I think it is such a disservice to what 'we' are. To you, ego = zombie, your giving ego this negative connotation, instead of making 'friends' with all of our 'parts'. I like this: "It's what we were born with, pure, undiluted awareness," and yet I have my doubts about the part: "Our awareness is constantly captured by thought." More food for thought? The term zombie in this context doesn't mean an animated corpse, but rather an old philosophical idea of an automaton lacking free will, self awareness, etc. Yeah, yeah, I got it. (I'm not a total literal ninny.)
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Post by laughter on Aug 9, 2014 22:41:09 GMT -5
The first program this season of Through the Wormhole with Morgan Freeman was about zombies, that was about 5 weeks ago. It was not very memorable except near the end there was a psychologist who said that we are mostly a zombie. He said on a good day we are 97% zombie and on a bad day we are 98% zombie. How did he arrive at this conclusion? He said most of what we think, feel and do is from pre-recorded conditioning, habits, almost all thought is pre-recorded. He also said that if our friends and family and co-workers lost the 2%-3% non-zombie part, or even ourselves, we probably wouldn't even notice. So what is the non-zombie part? It's what we were born with, pure, undiluted awareness. It's Tzu's still mind. For most of us most of the time thought is operating, recorded words, repeating tape-loops. Our awareness is constantly captured by thought. The 97%-98% zombie we generally refer to as ego. The zombie is not free, is subject to determinism. To get to the 2%-3% we have to get sick and tired of being the zombie, we have to come to hate the zombie. Why? Are you unhappy? Do you suffer? The zombie is responsible. sdp There are other, more gentle trajectories. Not everything zombie is negative. I'm glad mine stops on red lights at busy intersections.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Aug 10, 2014 10:54:28 GMT -5
A few days ago I noticed the new book in the marketing section, The Short Path to Enlightenment by Paul Brunton. I had read Brunton some in the past and pulled out some stuff, and also a book I had recently bought used by a man who worked for many years with PB, Anthony Damiani, Standing in Your Own Way, Talks on the Nature of Ego. It's consists of dialogue Daminai had with his students which contain extensive quotes from Brunton.
I had been considering this thread on zombies for weeks, reading the Damiani book brought everything together. "Anthony: Watch the constant metamorphosing of thought that's going on in your mind. It tends to have a certain structure, it tends to repeat itself. But what it's talking about, and what it's constantly repeating--there's nothing there. If you stop, put out the lights, and just let the first thought come into your mind and let it go--you'll see what it's referring to--there's nothing there. The thought itself is empty; there's nothing to it, it's insubstantial, it's a phantasmagoria. If anything shows up the nullity of our existence, it's when we engage in that kind of activity all the time".
A question is asked: "What precisely do we mean by 'the spiritual life'? Anthony: You can get a variety of definitions. The spiritual life is basically an attempt to get back to the wholeness of life, life as a whole, not as a separate thing, to recognize that the life in you is integral, is universal, and not to make the separative ego dominate that or think that it is separate from the rest of life. It's a very subtle thing we're involved in. Like I said before, when you recognize that your greatest enemy is the ego, you're on your way".
He then quotes PB. "An ego we have, we are; its existence is inescapable if the cosmic thought is to be activated and the human evolution in it is to develop. Why has it become, then, a source of evil, friction, suffering and horror? .......The natural and right attention to one's needs becomes enlarged to the point of tyranny. The ego then exists only to serve itself at all costs, aggressive to, and exploitive of, all others. ....It must adjust to two things: to the common welfare and to the source of its own being.
Anthony: When I speak about ferreting out the source of ego, I'm not speaking about theory, I'm speaking about something you've got to do. You've got to watch every time a thought comes into your mind. You've got to understand the nature of that thought; you've got to see what it's doing. You've got to trace it to its origin. You've got to keep doing that with the perceptual field, from moment to moment, as it's going on. You can't allow yourself to be comfortable in the psyche. It's what I call "the living dead". ...."
Standing in Your Own Way, Anthony Damiani, 1993 pages 83-89
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As to laughter's comment, Paul Brunton makes clear that when he talks about ego and thought, he is excepting the utility of thought, the purely functional aspect of thought, red means stop, green means go, is necessary in life (as does J. Krishnamurti BTW).
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Post by enigma on Aug 10, 2014 11:05:39 GMT -5
The first program this season of Through the Wormhole with Morgan Freeman was about zombies, that was about 5 weeks ago. It was not very memorable except near the end there was a psychologist who said that we are mostly a zombie. He said on a good day we are 97% zombie and on a bad day we are 98% zombie. How did he arrive at this conclusion? He said most of what we think, feel and do is from pre-recorded conditioning, habits, almost all thought is pre-recorded. He also said that if our friends and family and co-workers lost the 2%-3% non-zombie part, or even ourselves, we probably wouldn't even notice. So what is the non-zombie part? It's what we were born with, pure, undiluted awareness. It's Tzu's still mind. For most of us most of the time thought is operating, recorded words, repeating tape-loops. Our awareness is constantly captured by thought. The 97%-98% zombie we generally refer to as ego. The zombie is not free, is subject to determinism. To get to the 2%-3% we have to get sick and tired of being the zombie, we have to come to hate the zombie. Why? Are you unhappy? Do you suffer? The zombie is responsible. sdp I generally agree, though the percentages seem toadally arbitrary. The zombie effect is what I call unconsciousness: A mostly robotic, reactive way of living in which perception, thoughts and responses are mostly feeling driven and there's little or no awareness of this happening. Out of touch with the actuality of what's happening, we live within a flat, two-dimensional pseudo reality in the mind, driven by our past conditioning. We allow this to happen because that meta-reality is structured to make us feel relatively safe, good and in control. However, since it is illusion only, it fails to live up to expectations in the face of the actuality of life as it is. It seems there is no easy way to become conscious and it inevitably becomes a messy affair involving struggle and suffering. The vast majority prefer to remain zombies their whole lives.
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Post by laughter on Aug 10, 2014 11:12:32 GMT -5
A few days ago I noticed the new book in the marketing section, The Short Path to Enlightenment by Paul Brunton. I had read Brunton some in the past and pulled out some stuff, and also a book I had recently bought used by a man who worked for many years with PB, Anthony Damiani, Standing in Your Own Way, Talks on the Nature of Ego. It's consists of dialogue Daminai had with his students which contain extensive quotes from Brunton. I had been considering this thread on zombies for weeks, reading the Damiani book brought everything together. "Anthony: Watch the constant metamorphosing of thought that's going on in your mind. It tends to have a certain structure, it tends to repeat itself. But what it's talking about, and what it's constantly repeating--there's nothing there. If you stop, put out the lights, and just let the first thought come into your mind and let it go--you'll see what it's referring to--there's nothing there. The thought itself is empty; there's nothing to it, it's insubstantial, it's a phantasmagoria. If anything shows up the nullity of our existence, it's when we engage in that kind of activity all the time". A question is asked: "What precisely do we mean by 'the spiritual life'? Anthony: You can get a variety of definitions. The spiritual life is basically an attempt to get back to the wholeness of life, life as a whole, not as a separate thing, to recognize that the life in you is integral, is universal, and not to make the separative ego dominate that or think that it is separate from the rest of life. It's a very subtle thing we're involved in. Like I said before, when you recognize that your greatest enemy is the ego, you're on your way". He then quotes PB. "An ego we have, we are; its existence is inescapable if the cosmic thought is to be activated and the human evolution in it is to develop. Why has it become, then, a source of evil, friction, suffering and horror? .......The natural and right attention to one's needs becomes enlarged to the point of tyranny. The ego then exists only to serve itself at all costs, aggressive to, and exploitive of, all others. ....It must adjust to two things: to the common welfare and to the source of its own being. Anthony: When I speak about ferreting out the source of ego, I'm not speaking about theory, I'm speaking about something you've got to do. You've got to watch every time a thought comes into your mind. You've got to understand the nature of that thought; you've got to see what it's doing. You've got to trace it to its origin. You've got to keep doing that with the perceptual field, from moment to moment, as it's going on. You can't allow yourself to be comfortable in the psyche. It's what I call " the living dead". ...." Standing in Your Own Way, Anthony Damiani, 1993 pages 83-89 ..................... As to laughter's comment, Paul Brunton makes clear that when he talks about ego and thought, he is excepting the utility of thought, the purely functional aspect of thought, red means stop, green means go, is necessary in life (as does J. Krishnamurti BTW). sdp That first quote about the emptiness at the crux of the inception of thought is really well expressed, and it's something that can only be understood if one has done the investigation. This last idea ... "you can't allow yourself to be comfortable in the psyche" reminds me of Albert Low's prescription in "The Iron Cow of Zen": "arouse the mind without resting it on anything". Any conceptual structure that we get comfortable with is a potential place for the mind to rest, and perhaps the ultimate comfy-cozy-mind-couch is the deliberately suppressed and thereby unaroused state of mind.
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Post by enigma on Aug 10, 2014 11:41:22 GMT -5
The first program this season of Through the Wormhole with Morgan Freeman was about zombies, that was about 5 weeks ago. It was not very memorable except near the end there was a psychologist who said that we are mostly a zombie. He said on a good day we are 97% zombie and on a bad day we are 98% zombie. How did he arrive at this conclusion? He said most of what we think, feel and do is from pre-recorded conditioning, habits, almost all thought is pre-recorded. He also said that if our friends and family and co-workers lost the 2%-3% non-zombie part, or even ourselves, we probably wouldn't even notice. So what is the non-zombie part? It's what we were born with, pure, undiluted awareness. It's Tzu's still mind. For most of us most of the time thought is operating, recorded words, repeating tape-loops. Our awareness is constantly captured by thought. The 97%-98% zombie we generally refer to as ego. The zombie is not free, is subject to determinism. To get to the 2%-3% we have to get sick and tired of being the zombie, we have to come to hate the zombie. Why? Are you unhappy? Do you suffer? The zombie is responsible. sdp There are other, more gentle trajectories. Not everything zombie is negative. I'm glad mine stops on red lights at busy intersections. Me too, but I think there's a distinction to be made between unconscious (zombie) behavior, and responses that are consciously set in motion but barely attended to consciously. This also includes complex activities such as walking and talking and bike riding. The later seems to be the reason the mind developed to be able to carry out (mostly mundane) activities at a level that requires little or no conscious attention. Attending to all of the minute muscular movements required for walking would overwhelm the conscious mind. Walking and chewing gum at the same time would become tragically impossible. To be fully conscious of setting these 'programmed' behaviors in motion and then allow the program to run, is not to be unconscious.
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Post by enigma on Aug 10, 2014 11:58:14 GMT -5
A few days ago I noticed the new book in the marketing section, The Short Path to Enlightenment by Paul Brunton. I had read Brunton some in the past and pulled out some stuff, and also a book I had recently bought used by a man who worked for many years with PB, Anthony Damiani, Standing in Your Own Way, Talks on the Nature of Ego. It's consists of dialogue Daminai had with his students which contain extensive quotes from Brunton. I had been considering this thread on zombies for weeks, reading the Damiani book brought everything together. "Anthony: Watch the constant metamorphosing of thought that's going on in your mind. It tends to have a certain structure, it tends to repeat itself. But what it's talking about, and what it's constantly repeating--there's nothing there. If you stop, put out the lights, and just let the first thought come into your mind and let it go--you'll see what it's referring to--there's nothing there. The thought itself is empty; there's nothing to it, it's insubstantial, it's a phantasmagoria. If anything shows up the nullity of our existence, it's when we engage in that kind of activity all the time". A question is asked: "What precisely do we mean by 'the spiritual life'? Anthony: You can get a variety of definitions. The spiritual life is basically an attempt to get back to the wholeness of life, life as a whole, not as a separate thing, to recognize that the life in you is integral, is universal, and not to make the separative ego dominate that or think that it is separate from the rest of life. It's a very subtle thing we're involved in. Like I said before, when you recognize that your greatest enemy is the ego, you're on your way". He then quotes PB. "An ego we have, we are; its existence is inescapable if the cosmic thought is to be activated and the human evolution in it is to develop. Why has it become, then, a source of evil, friction, suffering and horror? .......The natural and right attention to one's needs becomes enlarged to the point of tyranny. The ego then exists only to serve itself at all costs, aggressive to, and exploitive of, all others. ....It must adjust to two things: to the common welfare and to the source of its own being. Anthony: When I speak about ferreting out the source of ego, I'm not speaking about theory, I'm speaking about something you've got to do. You've got to watch every time a thought comes into your mind. You've got to understand the nature of that thought; you've got to see what it's doing. You've got to trace it to its origin. You've got to keep doing that with the perceptual field, from moment to moment, as it's going on. You can't allow yourself to be comfortable in the psyche. It's what I call " the living dead". ...." Standing in Your Own Way, Anthony Damiani, 1993 pages 83-89 ..................... As to laughter's comment, Paul Brunton makes clear that when he talks about ego and thought, he is excepting the utility of thought, the purely functional aspect of thought, red means stop, green means go, is necessary in life (as does J. Krishnamurti BTW). sdp That first quote about the emptiness at the crux of the inception of thought is really well expressed, and it's something that can only be understood if one has done the investigation. This last idea ... "you can't allow yourself to be comfortable in the psyche" reminds me of Albert Low's prescription in "The Iron Cow of Zen": "arouse the mind without resting it on anything". Any conceptual structure that we get comfortable with is a potential place for the mind to rest, and perhaps the ultimate comfy-cozy-mind-couch is the deliberately suppressed and thereby unaroused state of mind. That's something I've said many times, maybe in the form of 'alert, empty attention', though I mean something other than not resting mind on a conceptual structure, which is a bit of an oxymoron. I mean not engaging thought at all. (I might be talking about something different from what Albert means too)
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Post by silence on Aug 10, 2014 12:08:12 GMT -5
A few days ago I noticed the new book in the marketing section, The Short Path to Enlightenment by Paul Brunton. I had read Brunton some in the past and pulled out some stuff, and also a book I had recently bought used by a man who worked for many years with PB, Anthony Damiani, Standing in Your Own Way, Talks on the Nature of Ego. It's consists of dialogue Daminai had with his students which contain extensive quotes from Brunton. I had been considering this thread on zombies for weeks, reading the Damiani book brought everything together. "Anthony: Watch the constant metamorphosing of thought that's going on in your mind. It tends to have a certain structure, it tends to repeat itself. But what it's talking about, and what it's constantly repeating--there's nothing there. If you stop, put out the lights, and just let the first thought come into your mind and let it go--you'll see what it's referring to--there's nothing there. The thought itself is empty; there's nothing to it, it's insubstantial, it's a phantasmagoria. If anything shows up the nullity of our existence, it's when we engage in that kind of activity all the time". A question is asked: "What precisely do we mean by 'the spiritual life'? Anthony: You can get a variety of definitions. The spiritual life is basically an attempt to get back to the wholeness of life, life as a whole, not as a separate thing, to recognize that the life in you is integral, is universal, and not to make the separative ego dominate that or think that it is separate from the rest of life. It's a very subtle thing we're involved in. Like I said before, when you recognize that your greatest enemy is the ego, you're on your way". He then quotes PB. "An ego we have, we are; its existence is inescapable if the cosmic thought is to be activated and the human evolution in it is to develop. Why has it become, then, a source of evil, friction, suffering and horror? .......The natural and right attention to one's needs becomes enlarged to the point of tyranny. The ego then exists only to serve itself at all costs, aggressive to, and exploitive of, all others. ....It must adjust to two things: to the common welfare and to the source of its own being. Anthony: When I speak about ferreting out the source of ego, I'm not speaking about theory, I'm speaking about something you've got to do. You've got to watch every time a thought comes into your mind. You've got to understand the nature of that thought; you've got to see what it's doing. You've got to trace it to its origin. You've got to keep doing that with the perceptual field, from moment to moment, as it's going on. You can't allow yourself to be comfortable in the psyche. It's what I call " the living dead". ...." Standing in Your Own Way, Anthony Damiani, 1993 pages 83-89 ..................... As to laughter's comment, Paul Brunton makes clear that when he talks about ego and thought, he is excepting the utility of thought, the purely functional aspect of thought, red means stop, green means go, is necessary in life (as does J. Krishnamurti BTW). sdp Might be time to move away from the book shelf.
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Post by runstill on Aug 10, 2014 12:20:15 GMT -5
There are other, more gentle trajectories. Not everything zombie is negative. I'm glad mine stops on red lights at busy intersections. Me too, but I think there's a distinction to be made between unconscious (zombie) behavior, and responses that are consciously set in motion but barely attended to consciously. This also includes complex activities such as walking and talking and bike riding. The later seems to be the reason the mind developed to be able to carry out (mostly mundane) activities at a level that requires little or no conscious attention. Attending to all of the minute muscular movements required for walking would overwhelm the conscious mind. Walking and chewing gum at the same time would become tragically impossible. To be fully conscious of setting these 'programmed' behaviors in motion and then allow the program to run, is not to be unconscious. Well if that's the case it sure has run amuck..... it seems like it's virus that gets passed from generation to generation...?
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Post by enigma on Aug 10, 2014 12:55:40 GMT -5
A few days ago I noticed the new book in the marketing section, The Short Path to Enlightenment by Paul Brunton. I had read Brunton some in the past and pulled out some stuff, and also a book I had recently bought used by a man who worked for many years with PB, Anthony Damiani, Standing in Your Own Way, Talks on the Nature of Ego. It's consists of dialogue Daminai had with his students which contain extensive quotes from Brunton. I had been considering this thread on zombies for weeks, reading the Damiani book brought everything together. "Anthony: Watch the constant metamorphosing of thought that's going on in your mind. It tends to have a certain structure, it tends to repeat itself. But what it's talking about, and what it's constantly repeating--there's nothing there. If you stop, put out the lights, and just let the first thought come into your mind and let it go--you'll see what it's referring to--there's nothing there. The thought itself is empty; there's nothing to it, it's insubstantial, it's a phantasmagoria. If anything shows up the nullity of our existence, it's when we engage in that kind of activity all the time". A question is asked: "What precisely do we mean by 'the spiritual life'? Anthony: You can get a variety of definitions. The spiritual life is basically an attempt to get back to the wholeness of life, life as a whole, not as a separate thing, to recognize that the life in you is integral, is universal, and not to make the separative ego dominate that or think that it is separate from the rest of life. It's a very subtle thing we're involved in. Like I said before, when you recognize that your greatest enemy is the ego, you're on your way". He then quotes PB. "An ego we have, we are; its existence is inescapable if the cosmic thought is to be activated and the human evolution in it is to develop. Why has it become, then, a source of evil, friction, suffering and horror? .......The natural and right attention to one's needs becomes enlarged to the point of tyranny. The ego then exists only to serve itself at all costs, aggressive to, and exploitive of, all others. ....It must adjust to two things: to the common welfare and to the source of its own being. Anthony: When I speak about ferreting out the source of ego, I'm not speaking about theory, I'm speaking about something you've got to do. You've got to watch every time a thought comes into your mind. You've got to understand the nature of that thought; you've got to see what it's doing. You've got to trace it to its origin. You've got to keep doing that with the perceptual field, from moment to moment, as it's going on. You can't allow yourself to be comfortable in the psyche. It's what I call " the living dead". ...." Standing in Your Own Way, Anthony Damiani, 1993 pages 83-89 ..................... As to laughter's comment, Paul Brunton makes clear that when he talks about ego and thought, he is excepting the utility of thought, the purely functional aspect of thought, red means stop, green means go, is necessary in life (as does J. Krishnamurti BTW). sdp Might be time to move away from the book shelf. Eggzacly what I would expect a zombie to say.
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Post by enigma on Aug 10, 2014 12:57:46 GMT -5
Me too, but I think there's a distinction to be made between unconscious (zombie) behavior, and responses that are consciously set in motion but barely attended to consciously. This also includes complex activities such as walking and talking and bike riding. The later seems to be the reason the mind developed to be able to carry out (mostly mundane) activities at a level that requires little or no conscious attention. Attending to all of the minute muscular movements required for walking would overwhelm the conscious mind. Walking and chewing gum at the same time would become tragically impossible. To be fully conscious of setting these 'programmed' behaviors in motion and then allow the program to run, is not to be unconscious. Well if that's the case it sure has run amuck..... it seems like it's virus that gets passed from generation to generation...? We have misused that ability fer sure, just as we've misused every other aspect of mind.
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Post by laughter on Aug 10, 2014 15:17:18 GMT -5
There are other, more gentle trajectories. Not everything zombie is negative. I'm glad mine stops on red lights at busy intersections. Me too, but I think there's a distinction to be made between unconscious (zombie) behavior, and responses that are consciously set in motion but barely attended to consciously. This also includes complex activities such as walking and talking and bike riding. The later seems to be the reason the mind developed to be able to carry out (mostly mundane) activities at a level that requires little or no conscious attention. Attending to all of the minute muscular movements required for walking would overwhelm the conscious mind. Walking and chewing gum at the same time would become tragically impossible. To be fully conscious of setting these 'programmed' behaviors in motion and then allow the program to run, is not to be unconscious. I do see the difference in that distinction. It's a deep topic that sure could form the basis of some complex ideas.
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