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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2014 4:10:52 GMT -5
(unrelated to the thread at hand) Do you think that unconditional trust of a teacher is of any importance? And I'm talking about the good ones, the ones you know in your heart can point the way. And of course, the good ones would know all they can do is point, that the searching and/or finding would be the students work alone, should they choose to persevere. Do you trust yourself to know exactly what they are saying? Do you trust yourself that you are seeing them clearly and not putting them on a pedestal? I would think that would have to come first before unconditional trust could be placed with a teacher and not have it back-fire. I think you have missed the point, and I think I know why you have chosen this particular route. Do you? I said "pointers", right? And the work is the students alone. And I briefly mentioned 'adapt' and 'adopt' just yesterday in a conversation with Tzu. Either would be an error. As I understand 'unconditional trust' .. "Dan" cedes control, which "Dan" is loathe to do. Similar perhaps to jumping off a cliff, unafraid, knowing that God will catch you. (a metaphorical cliff, obviously)
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Post by japhy on Apr 27, 2014 6:57:44 GMT -5
FWIW, the best advice is to trust yourself. Like Top says, each body/mind is different. Perhaps some people don't recommend meditating prior to sleep because there is less alertness at that time and meditation relaxes the body (which means that the meditation won't last very long). Who knows? Okay many people also do not recommend meditating lying because of lacking alertness. One point for me might be, that I often experience energy moving in the body and I have found that it sometimes seems to move more freely in a lying position. It is true that in this, prior to sleep, lying meditation I am quite regularly pullled down in some unconcious state, but eventually I always come up again and it is not unsual to be very clear when coming up. It reminds me somehow of white water rafting. The forces of water might pull you down, but when you come up again the first breath of air is very fresh.
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Post by silver on Dec 13, 2014 15:52:43 GMT -5
FWIW, the best advice is to trust yourself. Like Top says, each body/mind is different. Perhaps some people don't recommend meditating prior to sleep because there is less alertness at that time and meditation relaxes the body (which means that the meditation won't last very long). Who knows? Okay many people also do not recommend meditating lying because of lacking alertness. One point for me might be, that I often experience energy moving in the body and I have found that it sometimes seems to move more freely in a lying position. It is true that in this, prior to sleep, lying meditation I am quite regularly pullled down in some unconcious state, but eventually I always come up again and it is not unsual to be very clear when coming up. It reminds me somehow of white water rafting. The forces of water might pull you down, but when you come up again the first breath of air is very fresh. I lie down, when not sitting in my car or a restaurant or ___. I have a damaged vertebrae in my lower back, the meniscus on my right knee is torn in two places, have severe carpal tunnel syndrome (cts) in my right hand, arm, shoulder, neck and moderate to severe cts in my left. I myself am surprised that I haven't fallen asleep during my mini-meditations. I think I'm doing great, by the way.
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