Moralism and WIBIGO

[stardustpilgrim]

Apr 26, 2014 0:14:25 GMT -5 Reefs said:

Apr 25, 2014 12:32:00 GMT -5 @empty said:

Deep meditative states can replace sleep, so one would think that insomnia may ensue kinda commonly in a beginning to middling meditator that is meditating regularly.

Right. But I rather think Quinn has some psychological baggage (resistance) to work thru which keeps here awake.

I can solve anybody's insomnia in one day. Through food, air and impressions we create a certain amount of energy needed for each day, energy for thinking, feeling, moving and keeping the organism functioning. Each center has a certain quality and quantity of energy allotted. Sleep comes when we use up that allotted energy. Now, dreams can use up the extra energy of the intellectual center and the emotional center. I'd say that most insomnia is a result of not using up the energy of the moving center. The answer? Physical activity, a lot of it if necessary. You just wear that ole body out and then be careful or you won't make it to the bed, you'll fall asleep where you are. I bet zd never had a problem sleeping at night, likewise E (I was an electrician, I usually didn't make it past 9:00). EM Cioran the writer/philosopher discovered this by accident. He was plagued by insomnia, so he would get on his bicycle and ride the streets of Paris at night.

Now, why does meditation and other interior practices cause less sleep to be required? Because the allotted energy for the day is transformed into a finer energy and stored. Dreaming isn't required to use up the excess energy.

sdp

[Reefs]

Apr 26, 2014 0:53:50 GMT -5 stardustpilgrim said:

Apr 26, 2014 0:14:25 GMT -5 Reefs said:

Right. But I rather think Quinn has some psychological baggage (resistance) to work thru which keeps here awake.

I can solve anybody's insomnia in one day. Through food, air and impressions we create a certain amount of energy needed for each day, energy for thinking, feeling, moving and keeping the organism functioning. Each center has a certain quality and quantity of energy allotted. Sleep comes when we use up that allotted energy. Now, dreams can use up the extra energy of the intellectual center and the emotional center. I'd say that most insomnia is a result of not using up the energy of the moving center. The answer? Physical activity, a lot of it if necessary. You just wear that ole body out and then be careful or you won't make it to the bed, you'll fall asleep where you are. I bet zd never had a problem sleeping at night, likewise E (I was an electrician, I usually didn't make it past 9:00). EM Cioran the writer/philosopher discovered this by accident. He was plagued by insomnia, so he would get on his bicycle and ride the streets of Paris at night.

Now, why does meditation and other interior practices cause less sleep to be required? Because the allotted energy for the day is transformed into a finer energy and stored. Dreaming isn't required to use up the excess energy.

sdp

Makes sense that physical activity would help curing insomnia temporarily. Just take a long hike up and down the mountains and you'll sleep like a baby, guaranteed. But that's a rather cumbersome solution.

And I don't think that sleep is actually required. Your body can relax and replenish just by sitting in an arm chair. Your mind, however, usually cannot. So that's where I see the benefit of a good nights sleep. So, some of those who suffer from insomnia, aren't actually suffering from insomnia but are just a victim of their flawed beliefs about sleep (e.g. 'a healthy adult needs 8 hours of sleep per day'). And others probably just think too much. It would make sense that folks who have problems focusing and paying attention would also suffer from insomnia.

Now, why does meditation cause less sleep required? I'd say because it reduces resistance. And less resistance means more energy. So instead of replenishing your energy with sleep (which is a period of no resistance) you can have the same effect with meditation. Also, I don't believe that there's just a certain amount of energy allotted to you per day. It just looks that way because with the usual level of resistance, most barely make it thru the day.