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Post by lolly on Dec 1, 2013 5:36:28 GMT -5
If you are a student you'll find a teacher, and vice versa. It's merely a way to retain self image. I think most importantly, the self image should also be esteemed. What I see as problematic with the relationship that validates the teacher and student, is the student may feel as though they are lesser as an individual compared with their idealized image of the teacher. That's not indicative of an esteemed self image. Many self painted teachers take advantage of that 'lesser' and use it to tip the balance of power in their own favour, which the student accepts as true through the lesser/greater paradigm, and the teacher begins to lead the student into the teachers ways or belief. In my case, I met like a hundred self proclaimed enlightened ones but I also noticed that being enlightened does not mean a person has the skill set required to be of any actual assistance, and often, I noticed quite unethical behaviours that disempowered people or even harmed them... Anyone who has a genuine intention to assist another person takes a non-judgmental approach, takes care not to impose their own beliefs and values and supports them in their own decisions with a view to empowerment. I agree with all you are saying there. The very fact that someone calls themselves 'a teacher' should be cause for a measured approach on the part of one who is considering themselves 'a student.' I personally see a few possible misconceptions inherent In the very designation of oneself as "spiritual teacher." One being the idea that spirituality, as it relates to life and freedom, is something one can be an expert about, (in the sense that they are equipt to guide others to 'the way.') Seems to be an assumption there that ' their way' is ' the way.' And that in my estimation, requires a fair bit or arrogance. I met a lot of people who seem to be on a bit of a mission, like everyone at Ruthless Truth for starters. Crikey, that was a bloodbath LOL. So many. Most have a particular angle, Like ramana, inquire of the self, Tolle, Now... and like each to their own... then there's a host of Hicks, Bashars, Seths ... and all those ones on The Secret... I guess that's why 'spirituality' is such a mad house. I like Ramana and Jiddu Krishnamurti... and Puppetji is also a real favorite of mine... www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_jXmKszEdk
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2013 11:26:34 GMT -5
I met a lot of people who seem to be on a bit of a mission, like everyone at Ruthless Truth for starters. Crikey, that was a bloodbath LOL. Haha...oh yeah....that group was something alright! Yes! Lots of different angles...all ultimately pointing to the same direction, as i see it.
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Post by lolly on Dec 1, 2013 20:13:43 GMT -5
I met a lot of people who seem to be on a bit of a mission, like everyone at Ruthless Truth for starters. Crikey, that was a bloodbath LOL. Haha...oh yeah....that group was something alright! Yes! Lots of different angles...all ultimately pointing to the same direction, as i see it. I just wish people would get past the pointing thing! (tears out last remaining strand of hair)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2013 21:48:53 GMT -5
Haha...oh yeah....that group was something alright! Yes! Lots of different angles...all ultimately pointing to the same direction, as i see it. I just wish people would get past the pointing thing! (tears out last remaining strand of hair)
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Post by magnesio on Dec 2, 2013 11:27:35 GMT -5
It seems you are caught in the net of the gurus. Isnt that true?
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Post by silver on Dec 2, 2013 12:02:16 GMT -5
It seems you are caught in the net of the gurus. Isnt that true? Could be. Who you talking to?
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