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Post by enigma on Nov 8, 2013 2:47:33 GMT -5
Yes...you quoted it. The question is there..it ends with ? (that's a question mark) You have not answered the question...simples. But if you close your eyes and speculate that you have answered... you can say it must be true! Wow 'leaf, precision and subtly ... just not your strong points! That I haven't answered many of your questions is self-evident, that this is a failure is simply your characterization and your idea that the absence of the answers somehow qualifies as deception is just foolishness, plain and simple. It's a surrogate Tzu tactic.
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Post by enigma on Nov 8, 2013 3:01:19 GMT -5
At the end of the day farmer, peter, enigma, laughter and YOU GOT IT WRONG. You reacted to ignorance and perception and let them lead you like a mob. GOT WHAT WRONG? that I speculated you might have had a previous encounter with a few other members? how can a speculation be WRONG? the whole idea of prefacing a statement with the word speculation is that you are awaiting further evidence to assist in your understanding of a situation. in this case, information you wouldn't readily volunteer. It seems that it's more fun to accuse the speculators of accusation.
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Post by enigma on Nov 8, 2013 3:03:10 GMT -5
GOT WHAT WRONG? that I speculated you might have had a previous encounter with a few other members? how can a speculation be WRONG? the whole idea of prefacing a statement with the word speculation is that you are awaiting further evidence to assist in your understanding of a situation. in this case, information you wouldn't readily volunteer. You got your guess wrong farmer. But you flung it out there without a care in the world for the person you were talking about. By not answering immediately, people have told me what their perceptions of me are. His guess is right. We know each other from another forum.
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Post by enigma on Nov 8, 2013 3:05:43 GMT -5
You have joined in with the accusations. So be honest, do you think I have anything to do with swansong? Do you think I have been chatting to silver in private? Do you have any evidence remotely to back that up? Be an individual and answer for yourself HONESTLY I personally could care less whether you're swansong, Edward Snowden or even Bill Clinton. She does have a Clinton-esque southern accent. Hmmmmm.......
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Post by enigma on Nov 8, 2013 3:07:08 GMT -5
This is about you needing an apology? No, it's a rant to throw off my anger at the mobbing that was building on the accusation thread. It is thrown off now Didn't you say you weren't disturbed by any of that?
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Post by lolly on Nov 8, 2013 3:09:07 GMT -5
Was likened to Tzu recently. It like a shotgun attack. We both got pelleted. ._TT_ . ^ ^. \* */ . \../ . ()
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Post by enigma on Nov 8, 2013 3:10:16 GMT -5
Okay. If I was to ask if you if you're even slightly enjoying all the attention you're getting, what would you say? Honestly, that I know myself well enough to know that I can't maintain it. It's very intense, and it has already led to my decision to leave the site. But I don't want to run, I would rather face the fears that I'm facing in standing here like this. edit to clarify - to be strong enough to face things that I fear, there is a peace (not sure that is enjoyment). But I would rather enjoy the peace with the quiet of my own home...and I'm a bit sad to be so temporary here, but that's old stuff. Accusation # 665 You're a drama queen, creating your own drama and pretending to endure it for your own greater good.
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Post by enigma on Nov 8, 2013 3:16:21 GMT -5
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Post by lolly on Nov 8, 2013 3:19:09 GMT -5
It was me that was kidding.
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Post by laughter on Nov 8, 2013 5:09:09 GMT -5
Well thanks anyway, but those words stay with you ... got no place or use for 'em over here. Nice dodge btw! So....you've got no place or use for my words about that....? Why did you ask if I agreed with Autumnleaf then? My question was more specific.
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Post by laughter on Nov 8, 2013 6:13:35 GMT -5
So do you share 'leafs interpretation that I should be ashamed of the way I corresponded with Tzu' in the Meta-Awareness thread? Lol, there was NO interpretation or even a comment on your corresponsdance with Tzu. If you think there was, go find the evidence. You ask for it from others, yet you put yourself in a position with no more than speculation. Unlike you, If I say that someone said something and am called on it, I don't shirk and reply with a challenge to prove a negative. You don't have a very good memory of what you wrote. Since the remark by Steve (that you've referred to about a half a dozen times over the past few days) happened near the end of the Meta-Awareness thread, that's obviously not what you were alluding to here: It's a shame the thread wasn't made into a no attack thread when people began using personal insults about Tzu in the early stages of the thread. And I'm certain you deleted a post that was more direct and explicit on the point, but of course, can't prove that. As far as what's left in the archive, there are two general and vague scoldings of shame on your part directly to me and then what I've quoted. As I mentioned here, I have already invited you to elaborate on what you were referring to in your shaming. While you have certainly chosen to open up about the second question posed there( ), you have still to date declined, by silence, to answer the first. People are waiting with baited breath for peter to turn up with an IP address, or a PM conversation between me ans silver, or Tzu or something that proves that I'm involved in some covert operation. The reference to the PM's is unnecessary drama on your part. For the 2nd time now: The idea of the PM's was never nothing more than speculation on my part, and I've never said otherwise. I've also said that divulging PM content isn't something I do or would ask anyone else to do.
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Post by laughter on Nov 8, 2013 6:22:30 GMT -5
Not long at all ago, King Frog accused me of making a personal attack on him in some other thread somewhere, and he had no clue what was in my heart when I made a certain statement, just joking about something. It's too easy to take the printed word and overlay it with our own thoughts and emotions, and it comes out the other end sorta mangled. *shrug* Precisely what I see Autumn doing. It's like an acid trip man!
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Post by laughter on Nov 8, 2013 6:31:51 GMT -5
Wow 'leaf, precision and subtly ... just not your strong points! That I haven't answered many of your questions is self-evident, that this is a failure is simply your characterization and your idea that the absence of the answers somehow qualifies as deception is just foolishness, plain and simple. It's a surrogate Tzu tactic. What I think spun her up to that was this, and what you replied to ended an exchange that was an obvious attempt on her part to turn the tables: [I have asked you questions. You have failed to answer them honestly. In this instance, she seems to have grasped the subtle distinction between my characterization of "absence speaking volumes" and her accusation of "failure to answer honestly", because if she hadn't, she likely would have played the hypocrite card.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2013 10:41:53 GMT -5
So....you've got no place or use for my words about that....? Why did you ask if I agreed with Autumnleaf then? My question was more specific. Yes. And I answered as best I could based upon the information I had.....If I'd been able to be more specific, and perhaps answered your question with an outright "Yes," would you have had any more 'use' for my words? If you don't have any place or use for someone's opinion, I'd say it's best not to ask for it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2013 11:01:39 GMT -5
Lol, there was NO interpretation or even a comment on your corresponsdance with Tzu. If you think there was, go find the evidence. You ask for it from others, yet you put yourself in a position with no more than speculation. Unlike you, If I say that someone said something and am called on it, I don't shirk and reply with a challenge to prove a negative. You don't have a very good memory of what you wrote. Since the remark by Steve (that you've referred to about a half a dozen times over the past few days) happened near the end of the Meta-Awareness thread, that's obviously not what you were alluding to here: It's a shame the thread wasn't made into a no attack thread when people began using personal insults about Tzu in the early stages of the thread. And I'm certain you deleted a post that was more direct and explicit on the point, but of course, can't prove that. As far as what's left in the archive, there are two general and vague scoldings of shame on your part directly to me and then what I've quoted. As I mentioned here, I have already invited you to elaborate on what you were referring to in your shaming. While you have certainly chosen to open up about the second question posed there( ), you have still to date declined, by silence, to answer the first. People are waiting with baited breath for peter to turn up with an IP address, or a PM conversation between me ans silver, or Tzu or something that proves that I'm involved in some covert operation. The reference to the PM's is unnecessary drama on your part. For the 2nd time now: The idea of the PM's was never nothing more than speculation on my part, and I've never said otherwise. I've also said that divulging PM content isn't something I do or would ask anyone else to do. Speculation has run wild it seems. And whether we call it an accusation, a speculation or simply imagination gone into overdrive, it's miles away from looking and seeing clearly. Hmmmm...... No wonder I could not recall reading where Autumnleaf told you "you should be ashamed of yourself about the things you said about Tzu...."....seems that was just some creative story writing on your part. Even above, you seem to be saying that you've been asking for elaboration on what she's referring to with her use of the word 'shame'...? When I told you I did not know enough about what you were saying to answer your question about whether or not I agreed that you should be ashamed, you called my refusal 'dodging.' Is it 'dodging' a question when you don't answer because you really do not have an answer? I don't get that. For what it's worth Laffy, when someone says something is 'shameful' it's not necessarily the equivalent of saying that you 'should' be ashamed of your behavior, but rather, they are generally stating their own opinion of the behavior. There's a difference between telling another how they 'should' feel and simply stating how I 'DO' feel.
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