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Post by Reefs on Jul 4, 2013 10:04:20 GMT -5
What are my realizations? Whatever ones you've had. What realizations have I had?
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Post by Reefs on Jul 4, 2013 10:04:56 GMT -5
So mind basically thinks "I'm phucked" and then implodes? Practically speaking, its more of a letting go, a release. Mind releases itself?
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Post by andrew on Jul 4, 2013 10:05:58 GMT -5
Whatever ones you've had. What realizations have I had? I could makes guesses which would lead to more conversation, but truth is, it doesn't really matter what they are, they ain't 'the ultimate realization'.
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Post by tzujanli on Jul 4, 2013 10:06:24 GMT -5
Greetings.. Practically speaking, its more of a letting go, a release. Mind releases itself? In a sense, yes.. stillness/clarity.. Be well..
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Post by andrew on Jul 4, 2013 10:06:57 GMT -5
So the play of ideas continues without mind? Of course. Everything is a play of ideas.
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Post by andrew on Jul 4, 2013 10:08:11 GMT -5
Practically speaking, its more of a letting go, a release. Mind releases itself? Could say that, yes, but it creates an implication that is slightly problematic.
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Post by Reefs on Jul 4, 2013 10:13:39 GMT -5
That what are you actually saying? I'm saying there that I create distinctions too but that doesn't mean that I consider them to be necessarily true distinctions. On the other hand, I don't consider them to be necessarily false either. So you are just making meaningless conversation there.
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Post by Reefs on Jul 4, 2013 10:14:32 GMT -5
There might be a seer of some kind, or there might not be. There might not even be seeing. Its all...possible. Again. No idea is necessarily true (or false). So you are just speculating?
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Post by andrew on Jul 4, 2013 10:15:27 GMT -5
I'm saying there that I create distinctions too but that doesn't mean that I consider them to be necessarily true distinctions. On the other hand, I don't consider them to be necessarily false either. So you are just making meaningless conversation there. On the forum in general? yes and no. Hehe.
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Post by andrew on Jul 4, 2013 10:17:35 GMT -5
There might be a seer of some kind, or there might not be. There might not even be seeing. Its all...possible. Again. No idea is necessarily true (or false). So you are just speculating? Its all speculation (including 'its all speculation')
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Post by Reefs on Jul 4, 2013 10:18:36 GMT -5
What realizations have I had? I could makes guesses which would lead to more conversation, but truth is, it doesn't really matter what they are, they ain't 'the ultimate realization'. So you actually don't know. You are just speculating. However, you are absolutely certain about all of that at the same time.
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Post by Reefs on Jul 4, 2013 10:19:37 GMT -5
So the play of ideas continues without mind? Of course. Everything is a play of ideas. Then what is 'mind'?
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Post by Reefs on Jul 4, 2013 10:20:17 GMT -5
Could say that, yes, but it creates an implication that is slightly problematic. Yes, more than 'slightly' problematic, actually.
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Post by andrew on Jul 4, 2013 10:20:44 GMT -5
I could makes guesses which would lead to more conversation, but truth is, it doesn't really matter what they are, they ain't 'the ultimate realization'. So you actually don't know. You are just speculating. However, you are absolutely certain about all of that at the same time. You still misunderstand. I don't know if I don't know, and neither do I really care that I don't know. I can experience certainty, and I'm certain of your attachment.
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Post by andrew on Jul 4, 2013 10:21:20 GMT -5
Of course. Everything is a play of ideas. Then what is 'mind'? In the context in which we were speaking, the rational, logical, thinking individual mind.
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