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Post by silence on Feb 25, 2012 20:58:54 GMT -5
What?! No enlightened powers to fix your car? No, I usually just teleport myself where I want to go until I get the car fixed. ;D Sounds legit ;D
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Post by silence on Feb 25, 2012 20:59:28 GMT -5
Okay...thanks....so when you measure the truth/falsity of an idea against 'direct experience', do you mean that you use the senses (or what the senses tell you) as the measurer? i.e. the senses tell you there is no monster under the bed so you decide the idea that there is a monster there is false? Pfft... of course not! I pull out my night vision goggles, infrared detector, motion detector, atomic quark measurement device, and of course my parallel-universe quantum-entropy detector. Sometimes I also scan for temporal anomalies and traces of tachyon particles. Well I see your problem here. You forgot to bring your EMF detector.
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Post by klaus on Feb 25, 2012 21:49:57 GMT -5
Question, The only way out for you is if you go stark raving -mad. You'll wake up one day and nothing will make any sense any more. Logic, concepts etc. will be totally useless. You won't remember who or what you are even if you just keep repeating your name to try to keep your sanity it will be useless. Of course you might not come through it and stay insane but you'll never be able to go back to your world of logic. There are no guarantees. It's really frustrating that you guys constantly get hung up on that strawman of yours... "haha Question is so lolololological." I told you guys already that I'm super duper wide open to all kinds of possibilities, sure they have to pass a minor bs test, but I'm definitely open to this whole enlightenment thingy, why else would I stick around for so long? I'm open to all kinds of practises and non-practises, surrenderings and attendings and non-thinkings etc. I even agree with you on almost all points... how else would it be possible if not for the fact that I'm open minded and not at all rigid in my so called logic? To recommend that I go mad just completely misses the point and isn't even remotely helpful. It's like you haven't been reading my story at all and just wanted to take a dump into this toilet of a thread. I find it a bit disrespectful. Not that I don't deserve disrespect, I just didn't expect it to come from you, Klaus. Yes, your open minded, no question. And that's your problem. The only way your going to see is to go out of your mind. There is risk but there is also risk by staying in your mind No disrespect intended, Question. I have nothing but respect for you.
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Post by nobody on Feb 25, 2012 22:04:09 GMT -5
What do you mean? Or, maybe we both know what you mean. I think maybe we do. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) I think I do, but I don't know. I wouldn't ask anything else from you except for a straight answer. Basically, I think this forum and spiritual practices is the only thing that holding this identity together anymore. I read your response earlier today and spent some time with the question... "Is the seeker real?" Well... anyways a yes or no is all I need... well, anything else you'd like to say would be welcomed as well. But if you tell me to get out of here I will. So...
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Feb 25, 2012 22:42:23 GMT -5
.....question, I know you don't read sdp's posts......but, just ignore that man behind the screen.......... I don't know what nirvana is. I don't care about 'being present' and 'no more thought'. I'm not sure about happiness and peace, I'd say that safety is much more important to me... and really the source of feeling safe to me is money, if I have a lot of money then I feel safe. No, the reason I bother with this is that I'm very competetive/neurotic, to me the world is a jungle. So if someone says something that questions me then I feel threatened and must have what they have or at least I must crush them. I tried to intellectually crush this enlightenment thing but I figured that they really do have something that I don't have and so I must have it, but I can't, because I don't even know what it is that they have and they won't tell me in a way that it makes any sense. And so the circle is now closed and you can see why I hate this whole nonduality business, all it did to me is it increased my neurosis. I've always hated myself and now I hate myself even more... thanks spiritualteachers.org. I know this sounds f*cked up, but that's how I think, just being honest s'all. I don't understand/believe people who say that they are looking for Truth and Peace and whatnot, I think that's total bs, but hey maybe they do, who knows, but I'd bet that the majority of seekers are really seeking for similar reasons as mine. (That is, of course, unless they actually did have an awakening experience, in that case the situation would be entirely different.) question, every day you wake up, you are putting a question to the universe. What you are, what you wish to be, is the question.
In my 59 years, I have found it to be the case that the universe always answers....sometimes more quickly, sometimes less quickly.
Now, some have learned that we can ask directly, but just verbally asking isn't the real question. The real question is always the center of gravity of our being. Our being attracts our life.
What we see in life is God holding up a mirror.
You know how you can pull on your bottom eyelid and pull to the side it creates a double-image in your vision?, you see double. When we have ego-wants and essence wishes, we see double. If you can clarify what it is you actually want, to yourself, you stop seeing double, and the universe delivers.sdp Zardoz ........... ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) PS, If you really just want money, read Napoleon Hill, Think and Grow Rich and Maxwell Maltz, Psychocybernetics.....
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Post by nobody on Feb 25, 2012 23:16:05 GMT -5
I think maybe we do. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) I think I do, but I don't know. I wouldn't ask anything else from you except for a straight answer. Basically, I think this forum and spiritual practices is the only thing that holding this identity together anymore. I read your response earlier today and spent some time with the question... "Is the seeker real?" Well... anyways a yes or no is all I need... well, anything else you'd like to say would be welcomed as well. But if you tell me to get out of here I will. So... Well, I realize that this was a story as well. I actually have no idea what you were alluding to. So, bluntness please. This ego can take it.
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Post by esponja on Feb 25, 2012 23:45:58 GMT -5
Erm I'm not here to waste time, here a) for support b) to find Truth. Oops, sorry about that. I editet my list. Hope you're happy Thank you oh literal one! ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png)
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Post by enigma on Feb 25, 2012 23:56:58 GMT -5
I think maybe we do. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) I think I do, but I don't know. I wouldn't ask anything else from you except for a straight answer. Basically, I think this forum and spiritual practices is the only thing that holding this identity together anymore. I read your response earlier today and spent some time with the question... "Is the seeker real?" Well... anyways a yes or no is all I need... well, anything else you'd like to say would be welcomed as well. But if you tell me to get out of here I will. So... I wish I could give a straight answer, but 'real' is a word that doesn't work well for me, as I've said before. The mind/body is here, of course. The seeker is just an idea. I think you know that, though.
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Post by enigma on Feb 26, 2012 0:02:18 GMT -5
I think I do, but I don't know. I wouldn't ask anything else from you except for a straight answer. Basically, I think this forum and spiritual practices is the only thing that holding this identity together anymore. I read your response earlier today and spent some time with the question... "Is the seeker real?" Well... anyways a yes or no is all I need... well, anything else you'd like to say would be welcomed as well. But if you tell me to get out of here I will. So... Well, I realize that this was a story as well. I actually have no idea what you were alluding to. So, bluntness please. This ego can take it. It wasn't about you. I was suggesting that some folks who left recently we're perhaps a bit of a distraction. In support of that idea, I've seen some really good posts today. I didn't want to speak ill of the 'dead', so I guess I was being cryptic about it.
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Post by nobody on Feb 26, 2012 0:18:06 GMT -5
well. at least a story line was illuminated. proof that i actually have no idea what i'm doing... none at all.
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Post by silence on Feb 26, 2012 0:21:56 GMT -5
well. at least a story line was illuminated. proof that i actually have no idea what i'm doing... none at all. Your sincerity brings a smile to my face.
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Post by nobody on Feb 26, 2012 0:27:25 GMT -5
I think maybe you have a thing for the lizard. Hehe.. JK!
In all honesty, he is quite handsome.
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Post by silence on Feb 26, 2012 0:29:51 GMT -5
I think maybe you have a thing for the lizard. Hehe.. JK! In all honesty, he is quite handsome. I've always liked green anoles. Cheapest lizards you can find in a pet store but the most personality. ![](http://taylorlifescience.pbworks.com/f/anole.jpg)
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Post by nobody on Feb 26, 2012 0:30:28 GMT -5
I found this artist while making my monthly scroll thru the tolle forum.. there's some pretty sweet shots here. If anyone's interested in photography I'd highly recommend taking a look. This guys good: photo.net/photos/siwanowicz
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Post by nobody on Feb 26, 2012 1:04:16 GMT -5
I wish I could give a straight answer, but 'real' is a word that doesn't work well for me, as I've said before. The mind/body is here, of course. The seeker is just an idea. I think you know that, though. Real seems quite relevant to me. I could ask, "Am i the seeker?" But the term "I" implies personal, and asking "am i this" seems to reinforce the idea of a separate individual. That could just be me though. Is this? Is that? Those questions make sense to me. What am I? Now that's a funky question.
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