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Post by enigma on Feb 20, 2012 22:00:40 GMT -5
About 3 years ago, I came up with an effortless weight loss 'method'. It's effortless because effortlessness is the foundation of the idea. I lost 60 pounds, (permanently) then I had 2 women try it. It worked for both of them, but they both stopped after a few days and went back to eating/dieting as usual. The fascinating thing is that dieters don't want to not be hungry or not eat. They want to ride the roller coaster. ;D I noticed that too, many times. It's also interesting how 'free will-ers' are saying that they don't choose to feel good and happy continuously because they don't want to. Which is paradoxically true... maybe... possibly... somehow... Yup. Dat's true in a way. Mayhaps more accurately, peeps are happy when they aren't feeling positive feelings all the time. It's a misunderstanding when we say we want to feel good feelings all the time and never feel sad or angry or afraid. If that were true, we would never watch the news! Hehe.
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Post by Portto on Feb 20, 2012 22:03:31 GMT -5
I noticed that too, many times. It's also interesting how 'free will-ers' are saying that they don't choose to feel good and happy continuously because they don't want to. Which is paradoxically true... maybe... possibly... somehow... Yup. Dat's true in a way. Mayhaps more accurately, peeps are happy when they aren't feeling positive feelings all the time. It's a misunderstanding when we say we want to feel good feelings all the time and never feel sad or angry or afraid. If that were true, we would never watch the news! Hehe. We subconsciously know that variety is a key ingredient of dualistic happiness.
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Post by acharya on Feb 20, 2012 22:07:14 GMT -5
I once met a woman in India in 1956 who did not eat food nor drink water.
It is not so uncommon. In Sri Yogananda's book he talks about many that live on Prana.
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Post by enigma on Feb 20, 2012 22:14:09 GMT -5
Yup. Dat's true in a way. Mayhaps more accurately, peeps are happy when they aren't feeling positive feelings all the time. It's a misunderstanding when we say we want to feel good feelings all the time and never feel sad or angry or afraid. If that were true, we would never watch the news! Hehe. We subconsciously know that variety is a key ingredient of dualistic happiness. Yeah, gotta feel down if we wanna feel up, though it's not even a necessary evil. Before we place judgments on particular feelings and start struggling with them, feelings are just different flavors of the same thing, and they are all enjoyed. So when Andrew wants to find just the good stuff, he's misunderstanding on two levels. He thinks he can find a one-ended stick, and he also thinks there's something wrong with one of the ends of the stick he has.
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Post by enigma on Feb 20, 2012 22:19:16 GMT -5
I once met a woman in India in 1956 who did not eat for nor drink water. It is not so uncommon. In Sri Yogananda's book he talks about many that live on Prana. The 'actuality' of the matter is that the body is an appearance in consciousness and not a separate object that needs to be fed and watered. The collective consciousness has decided that it does, and so almost everybody aligns with that consensus, but it's really little more than an unspoken agreement about how things should be.
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Post by acharya on Feb 20, 2012 22:25:07 GMT -5
Do you eat and drink?
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Post by onehandclapping on Feb 20, 2012 22:47:52 GMT -5
Any experiences? Henri Montfort from France who has been living purely on prana for the past 9 years says there are about 30 - 40 thousand people in the world who don't eat or drink either. And that there even is a pranic restaurant in California where people come, buy and smell delicious food, and then give it to the homeless. Merrick What's the benefits of living this way again? I've never heard of anyone going longer than 7 days without water.....maybe less. I say leave the crazies to doing their thing. I'm gonna enjoy my starbucks and wholefoods.
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Post by Beingist on Feb 20, 2012 22:52:27 GMT -5
I once met a woman in India in 1956 who did not eat for nor drink water. It is not so uncommon. In Sri Yogananda's book he talks about many that live on Prana. The 'actuality' of the matter is that the body is an appearance in consciousness and not a separate object that needs to be fed and watered. The collective consciousness has decided that it does, and so almost everybody aligns with that consensus, but it's really little more than an unspoken agreement about how things should be. Yes!
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Post by enigma on Feb 20, 2012 23:16:28 GMT -5
Sure, I love to eat. How bout you?
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Post by acharya on Feb 20, 2012 23:41:28 GMT -5
yes yes, my daughter keeps me well fed.
You spoke with the certainty of expertise on these things, are you a Guru?
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Post by arisha on Feb 21, 2012 0:08:02 GMT -5
There is a woman in Russia who eats only soil ( earth). No kidding. It was reported in the newspaper, with her photo, then they showed her on TV. She lives alone, in the field, and hates everybody. An old witch, she practices some magic. She said in the interview she hates everybody because there are no good people. She started eating earth because it was good for her stomach.
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Post by acharya on Feb 21, 2012 0:39:06 GMT -5
In India, there is a common but sad practice. There are many fake Gurus. They often connect with a little known and slightly eccentric Sannyisan, they then copy everything he says, but says it in a way that is their own. If people start talking to the Sannyasin, the fake Guru will denounce and demean the Sannyasin. In this way, they get to have the attention that the Sannyasin merited.
It is ultimately a failing strategy though, because soon the Sannyisan leaves after being ridiculed, and then the fake Guru has no new material. So he either keeps repeating the few things he learned from the Sannyisan, or goes back to his old material.
I have met many fake Guru's in my lifetime, and they all had very interesting names. So please forgive me if I ask those kind of questions Enigma. When someone speaks with much certainty the way you did, I have a habit of asking very direct questions, please forgive me if I was too rude.
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Post by enigma on Feb 21, 2012 0:44:24 GMT -5
In India, there is a common but sad practice. There are many fake Gurus. They often connect with a little known and slightly eccentric Sannyisan, they then copy everything he says, but says it in a way that is their own. If people start talking to the Sannyasin, the fake Guru will denounce and demean the Sannyasin. In this way, they get to have the attention that the Sannyasin merited. It is ultimately a failing strategy though, because soon the Sannyisan leaves after being ridiculed, and then the fake Guru has no new material. So he either keeps repeating the few things he learned from the Sannyisan, or goes back to his old material. I have met many fake Guru's in my lifetime, and they all had very interesting names. So please forgive me if I ask those kind of questions Enigma. When someone speaks with much certainty the way you did, I have a habit of asking very direct questions, please forgive me if I was too rude. No problemo, Steve.
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Post by acharya on Feb 21, 2012 1:27:00 GMT -5
Come again young man?
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Post by kate on Feb 21, 2012 1:38:37 GMT -5
In India, there is a common but sad practice. There are many fake Gurus. They often connect with a little known and slightly eccentric Sannyisan, they then copy everything he says, but says it in a way that is their own. If people start talking to the Sannyasin, the fake Guru will denounce and demean the Sannyasin. In this way, they get to have the attention that the Sannyasin merited. It is ultimately a failing strategy though, because soon the Sannyisan leaves after being ridiculed, and then the fake Guru has no new material. So he either keeps repeating the few things he learned from the Sannyisan, or goes back to his old material. I have met many fake Guru's in my lifetime, and they all had very interesting names. So please forgive me if I ask those kind of questions Enigma. When someone speaks with much certainty the way you did, I have a habit of asking very direct questions, please forgive me if I was too rude. No problemo, Steve. I had my suspicions when he asked you if you were a guru but he really dropped the mask with that last post.
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