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Post by question on Apr 3, 2017 5:40:53 GMT -5
I wanted to know if there are any spiritual theories on why Barry Long would get prostate cancer. Especially since he was so focussed on sexuality? It is interesting to me how also Terence Mckenna who was so into psychedelics died of brain cancer. Is it coincidental? I am just amazed to not find anything like a discussion about it anywhere online? Is it simply irrelevant?
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Post by maxdprophet on Apr 3, 2017 16:48:25 GMT -5
I wanted to know if there are any spiritual theories on why Barry Long would get prostate cancer. Especially since he was so focussed on sexuality? It is interesting to me how also Terence Mckenna who was so into psychedelics died of brain cancer. Is it coincidental? I am just amazed to not find anything like a discussion about it anywhere online? Is it simply irrelevant? Not THE question? Just a question? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 1:21:53 GMT -5
I wanted to know if there are any spiritual theories on why Barry Long would get prostate cancer. Especially since he was so focussed on sexuality? It is interesting to me how also Terence Mckenna who was so into psychedelics died of brain cancer. Is it coincidental? I am just amazed to not find anything like a discussion about it anywhere online? Is it simply irrelevant? Why would they die of those specific diseases... Because they had genetic markers for them. Any 'spiritual' teacher worth their salt would tell you 'If you are ill - go to the doctor'. It has nothing to do with spirituality. |
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Post by infiniterose on Apr 16, 2017 8:35:56 GMT -5
What I find in the teachings of Barry Long is that he taught me to find the truth in my own experience instead of simply listening to someone else's beliefs .....that was the golden key as I opened the door to start my own journey of self discovery and what a beautiful Journey it is...  |
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Post by bluey on Apr 18, 2017 10:20:13 GMT -5
What I find in the teachings of Barry Long is that he taught me to find the truth in my own experience instead of simply listening to someone else's beliefs .....that was the golden key as I opened the door to start my own journey of self discovery and what a beautiful Journey it is... Yes it is a beautiful journey especially when the teacher has a humorous side to them and the method works for you. Always makes me smile when someone mentions Barry Long as I know the mischievous wild side to him too. I remember once going in to my local library to use the computer when mine broke down. And my local library, lets face it most people on here probably hold more books than they do. Walking over to the religious section, a very short walk... I saw amongst the four or five religious books( that's how small and little it has to offer), a book called essays in truth by nick roach. And I was held by it for a minute and picked it up. This is has happened a few times. Only to find he had been with Barry Long too. There's a beautiful section where he's talking of meeting a partner and taking on her past through everyday living and lovemaking. She puts over her version of feeling the past being dissolved as she became more present to the now. He applied Barry's practice and meditation and just before he hit 30 he had his awakening. But I went to the front of the book to see the person who had ordered it by the return stamps and how they had kept it for a few months as they had a repeat stamp date on there. Much of what Barry Long talks of can be found in the classical texts of the yogini, tantrikas. Even in the Spandarika, song of the sacred tremor is one of the most important texts in Kashmiri Shaivism. Daniel Odier met his master the yogini Lalita Devi after having been with Kalu Rinopoche, and having been ordained in the Ch'an traditions. Look him up. The post before yours on disease and death, take a look at the classical texts on Tantra, the yoginis who followed the dance of Shiva many of the Buddhist practitioners talk of how these female gurus who openly rejoiced in their femaleness were physically and spiritually adventurous. Totally spontaneous as true Tantra is. Why when they took on a male seeker they made them meditate on their form. Tradition talks on how they could eliminate disease from their students body as well as bring direct awakening in a very short time. Why many of the Rinopoches take on a female consort to understand this side of the tantric texts. To taste the healing nectar in the feminine through love making before they get cancer or any other disease. But as Barry Long said his penis has to be pure and the female has to be awakened as the nectar is in her heart. This is what the Rinopoche felt he could achieve with Julian Campbell but it was an abuse of power for one and she wasn't a yogini or tantrika. As a true female yogini takes on a student. Take a look at Miranda Shaws book passionate enlightenment. She's condensed most of the texts in there. Every yogini and woman should carry that book. As a female yogini in the Vajrayogini tradition would say A man should meditate upon his female companion As an embodiment of your (Vajrayyoginis) form Until intense practice produces Clear, direct vision. Thanks for sharing and welcome infinite rose. If you post it will be interesting if you expand on your journey on here. Just doing some extra hours at the moment so will try and read it if you do. |
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Post by laurie on May 23, 2017 14:36:42 GMT -5
"Do you make love for the consciousness of love, so that you can be stiller, more alive, more aware of the purpose of life?" — Barry Long Barry Long blog |
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Post by bluey on May 25, 2017 17:08:28 GMT -5
"Do you make love for the consciousness of love, so that you can be stiller, more alive, more aware of the purpose of life?" — Barry Long Barry Long blogThanks for sharing. I was with Barry for a while. He died on the same day as my mother did. A beautiful day. A great loss as well as great joy. Ian Wolstenholme was with him for longer than I. We have shared much on Barry that you won't find in the books. He has many photos with him together with Barry which you won't find anywhere else. I was talking to him about getting in touch with Clive Tempest as he normally does the forward in Barry's book. I will be seeing him soon as we need to take a few photos outside Glastonbury abbey. |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jun 21, 2017 23:36:58 GMT -5
I found an inexpensive copy of Knowing Yourself, the true in the false, on Amazon, ordered it. It came today. I started with reading a few pages at the end, which is a kind of introduction. Then from the beginning have read 28 pages. It's very good so far. Thanks bluey He's very compatible with Gurdjieff, so I don't (yet) know why all the ~grief~ over Gurdjieff. (But never mind about that).
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Post by bluey on Jun 22, 2017 19:37:03 GMT -5
I found an inexpensive copy of Knowing Yourself, the true in the false, on Amazon, ordered it. It came today. I started with reading a few pages at the end, which is a kind of introduction. Then from the beginning have read 28 pages. It's very good so far. Thanks bluey He's very compatible with Gurdjieff, so I don't (yet) know why all the ~grief~ over Gurdjieff. (But never mind about that). Yes it's a good book. Stillness is the way is another good book But at the same time I don't want to mislead you. He was there for me. Will that be true for you. Why I questioned your interest in Gurdjieff. As his teachings can be complicated for people now, over what I have come to as being very easy available to all. Gurdjieff was presented to you for a reason good or bad. Only you can answer that not me. I was never a seeker I came to this through suffering. It just happened. As easy as that. Within a year. With Ian he spent more time with Barry Long than I. You won't find any mention of Ian in his works. Do the math. Ian has shared much over with me on the time he spends with me as he loves me from the heart. As I do He. I can feel it even when I try to pay on a monetary level as a seeker. Why he says put your money away, the way he hugs me. How we gaze at each other with unspoken words. But for me if others pay so should I. Barry Long is a Tantric master, I was presented a Tantric master before that and much was shared over. They shared over how ignorant I was to the simple Truth available to all and the love making I shared with others where I added more ignorance instead of making them more nothing. He does bring much over his take on the personality and the arising sexuality, the pain body in his books and how it is a barrier to realisation which is available in here and now Only Fear Dies is a must read. Why Eckhart mentions him. But I don't want to throw or present him over to you when it's been my path. That would be unfair. ZD said earlier on focusing on the I Am said he never really subscribed to it. It's confusing. Yet satch will push it over yet has never been a student of Ramana. Many haven't. He will say he's here to put over it's real meaning. Ramana may beg to differ. Is that the truth. Or did those who came to it try and the very presence of Ramana as he is the Self just being in his very presence the grace brought them the one or two around him to know their true nature. Or was it really the focusing on the I Am. The practice. There are some great western living teachers available now. If you are a real seeker one will present himself/ herself to you. No books on past sages will compare as no book can bring you to That as the texts are dead to ever changing life. The present moment. What was true yesterday will be a lie today. What was true in the morning will be false in the afternoon. I'm in the sales game we produce for some of the largest fashion labels. Yet the buyer will feel it's been made in Italy. The truth is further from what is sold over. It's so close to the ordinary. Just as Barry Long was fishing with his father in law once and was casting out too far. His father in law said the fish are close in at this time of day. Why cast so far out. It's here very close, now. Just as Eckhart is pointing at in his works why you won't find a hint on meditation in his works. And he is clear on that. Kabir once wrote I laugh at the fish who in the water is thirsty, it's a true say. It's so easy come to This. And laugh when you come upon it too. Don't get caught up in the ratings. As you are more than Ramana, Barry Long or I. That's the dilemma of the seeker the every day man. They are sitting with a diamond within them. Yet look outside. Papaji pushed over that Gangaji and Mooji etc were just sent out as ambassadors to send seekers to him. Yet they are bringing much. Mooji is better than I he praises him sings devotional songs to him. Having been with tantric masters I would burn his photo, let the ashes rise to the Beloved make love to a woman in freedom on the chair Mooji keeps next to him as respect for Him. And that's the truth. Just as Eckhart went from a shy suicidal character in the story to number 1 or 2 on the spiritual teachers list. A rich boy in Vancouver being sought out by the ordinary and business world alike. Good for him. Just as Jesus said in my Kingdom the first will be last and last will be first. That happened for me. It happened for Eckhart. It can happen for you. Don't cast the line out too far when the fish are close in at this time of day. |
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Post by danielhines on Aug 28, 2023 22:33:54 GMT -5
I'm very grateful for Barry Long's wonderful and blessed teaching.
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Post by danielhines on Aug 28, 2023 22:45:40 GMT -5
I wanted to know if there are any spiritual theories on why Barry Long would get prostate cancer. Especially since he was so focussed on sexuality? It is interesting to me how also Terence Mckenna who was so into psychedelics died of brain cancer. Is it coincidental? I am just amazed to not find anything like a discussion about it anywhere online? Is it simply irrelevant? Perhaps you have formed some false notions. This is understandable considering the number of false notions generally that make the rounds, and that we tend to absorb until we begin to unlearn and shed the false concepts. We can sometimes tend to read into certain things too deeply, or have too many mind-driven questions, which can never lead us to true knowledge.
Broadly, human bodies are subject to illness and death, sooner or later. Thankfully, I (the reader, not the writer) am not dependent on the continued survival of the body.
My suggestion would be to start listening to Barry's teachings, and if they resonate with you, then endeavour to live them. |
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Post by danielhines on Aug 29, 2023 1:32:04 GMT -5
Sorry folks, Barry long was not an enlightened master. He is one of the more successful plagiarists and artists. His big mistake was to pretend he was a master. The fact is, he was very inspirational – a great quality for a spiritual teacher but he stole his material. Initially, from the Vipassana Research Institute. His prophecies are not his, they his take on what is largely Buddhist cosmology. Barry got his shouting style from Sayagyi U Ba Kin. He was a shouter too. Many big names plagiarised from the VRI. They all went to Nepal, did a course with the VRI and Burmese teacher U Ba Kin and came back to the west and declared themselves masters. What Barry, and the others didn’t banked on was the advent of the internet. So Barry had to mix and match a bit with psychology. Now we have a wash of self-confirmed masters talk rivers loads of waffle and self aggrandisement. By the way the VRI is a cult as well – sorry to say as I am a buddhist. You try and talk while one of their (so called) teachers is talking. I guarantee you get a filthy response. The teachers don’t teach Buddha Dhamma, they just demand you defer to them. They think nothing of kicking people out who are found to be doing other techniques – really you are out there and then! However, their 10 day course is free and I must recommend it if you are up to 10 hours of meditation a day for 10 days. They call their technique vipassana but it isn’t But it doesn’t matter, it’s meditation. Getting back to BL, I’ve been familiar with his teaching (in fact I’ve taken it to bits with a fine tooth comb) since the 80s and watched his recent videos of him. Towards the end he was a sad case. I once asked him if he knew what it was he was actually teaching; he stormed off without answering. He hated me because he knew I knew he was a phoney. Yet all I wanted was someone to inspire me to meditate as they years went by. I suspect towards the end he regretted not playing it straight. Barry also lacks ethics. Barry skipped this as people aren’t to keen on discipline. Despite his ability to inspire, he was a great pretender. I feel I must write that the spiritual life is, first and foremost, based on ethics and meditation. The spiritual life is long distance so pace yourself. Regards Sam Much of your information seems inaccurate to me. I wonder if perhaps you were fabricating, or perhaps you simply didn't resonate with Barry's teachings but lacked the self discipline and depth of character needed to simply move on without having to speak ill of another. That would be a true example of practising spirituality in a way that is real, and you would grow in being if you practised that. I've often noticed that some people make spiritual claims, then demonstrate a lack of containment and harmony in their actions. That comment was made many years ago, so perhaps you've gained wisdom since then. |
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Post by Tarlach on Aug 30, 2024 18:01:27 GMT -5
Enlightenment is Now.
This powerful statement is from Barry Long.
He demonstrated, in my experience, how to be in the sensation of my being in a body.
How to stop thinking, how to make love. He changed my life, for the better.
I loved that man.
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