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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2019 15:15:28 GMT -5
Well the gif was a personal insinuation, wasn't it? i was correcting that insinuation. i am not fearful and i see things as they are. Just trying to give a heads up about what's coming down the pipe. No. Just because it was a head with a face doesn't make it personal, though I recognise that you don't want to believe that now. My interpretation of the gif was more in line with what was in the post. Maya is the invisible hands turning the disc of the senses. Consciousness is the background upon which the disc of the senses turn. The expression, or the vision portrayed in the post isn't beautiful.. although, there is the vibration of fear in it.
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Post by laughter on Nov 13, 2019 16:33:26 GMT -5
Maya is creating a reality close enough to this 3D experience as to "fool" consciousness into accepting it as the new reality, like a virus. This is the equivalent of moving into a simulation within a simulation, and further into delusion. Yes, I wrote something similar: it's an irony that the hyperrealist effect is achieved by means of optical illusion.
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Post by roydop on Nov 13, 2019 17:25:11 GMT -5
Well the gif was a personal insinuation, wasn't it? i was correcting that insinuation. i am not fearful and i see things as they are. Just trying to give a heads up about what's coming down the pipe. No. Just because it was a head with a face doesn't make it personal, though I recognise that you don't want to believe that now. My interpretation of the gif was more in line with what was in the post. Maya is the invisible hands turning the disc of the senses. Consciousness is the background upon which the disc of the senses turn. The expression, or the vision portrayed in the post isn't beautiful.. although, there is the vibration of fear in it. The fear you feel is yours.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2019 17:56:44 GMT -5
No. Just because it was a head with a face doesn't make it personal, though I recognise that you don't want to believe that now. My interpretation of the gif was more in line with what was in the post. Maya is the invisible hands turning the disc of the senses. Consciousness is the background upon which the disc of the senses turn. The expression, or the vision portrayed in the post isn't beautiful.. although, there is the vibration of fear in it. The fear you feel is yours.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 14:31:34 GMT -5
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Post by siftingtothetruth on Nov 18, 2019 17:56:42 GMT -5
Ah, interesting thought. So what then do you make of the explosive rise in popularity the last 20 years of fantasy in mass media -- Lord of the Rings, Game of Thrones, and Marvel & DC movies and TV shows and so on? Different media, different analysis and conclusory meme. Another POV on this from comic book writer & novelist Alan Moore: "I think the impact of superheroes on popular culture is both tremendously embarrassing and not a little worrying. While these characters were originally perfectly suited to stimulating the imaginations of their twelve or thirteen year-old audience, today’s franchised übermenschen, aimed at a supposedly adult audience, seem to be serving some kind of different function, and fulfilling different needs. Primarily, mass-market superhero movies seem to be abetting an audience who do not wish to relinquish their grip on (a) their relatively reassuring childhoods, or (b) the relatively reassuring 20th century. The continuing popularity of these movies to me suggests some kind of deliberate, self-imposed state of emotional arrest, combined with an numbing condition of cultural stasis that can be witnessed in comics, movies, popular music and, indeed, right across the cultural spectrum. The superheroes themselves – largely written and drawn by creators who have never stood up for their own rights against the companies that employ them, much less the rights of a Jack Kirby or Jerry Siegel or Joe Schuster – would seem to be largely employed as cowardice compensators, perhaps a bit like the handgun on the nightstand. I would also remark that save for a smattering of non-white characters (and non-white creators) these books and these iconic characters are still very much white supremacist dreams of the master race. In fact, I think that a good argument can be made for D.W. Griffith’s Birth of a Nation as the first American superhero movie, and the point of origin for all those capes and masks."
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Post by laughter on Nov 18, 2019 23:25:52 GMT -5
Different media, different analysis and conclusory meme. Another POV on this from comic book writer & novelist Alan Moore: "I think the impact of superheroes on popular culture is both tremendously embarrassing and not a little worrying. While these characters were originally perfectly suited to stimulating the imaginations of their twelve or thirteen year-old audience, today’s franchised übermenschen, aimed at a supposedly adult audience, seem to be serving some kind of different function, and fulfilling different needs. Primarily, mass-market superhero movies seem to be abetting an audience who do not wish to relinquish their grip on (a) their relatively reassuring childhoods, or (b) the relatively reassuring 20th century. The continuing popularity of these movies to me suggests some kind of deliberate, self-imposed state of emotional arrest, combined with an numbing condition of cultural stasis that can be witnessed in comics, movies, popular music and, indeed, right across the cultural spectrum. The superheroes themselves – largely written and drawn by creators who have never stood up for their own rights against the companies that employ them, much less the rights of a Jack Kirby or Jerry Siegel or Joe Schuster – would seem to be largely employed as cowardice compensators, perhaps a bit like the handgun on the nightstand. I would also remark that save for a smattering of non-white characters (and non-white creators) these books and these iconic characters are still very much white supremacist dreams of the master race. In fact, I think that a good argument can be made for D.W. Griffith’s Birth of a Nation as the first American superhero movie, and the point of origin for all those capes and masks." That's far more culturally laden than my analysis. .. though Alan and I both agree - in a general sense - that the superhero is a mechanism for re-introducing story elements that had gone out of fashion with the educated elites. His allusion to race doesn't rezz with me though. It reminds me of "the orcs are black people! " reaction to the Rings movies. I do agree with his point about emotional arrest, though, but I take it (and my analysis) with a big 'ole grain of salt, as it seems to me that lots of folks are just going along with what their kids want or what some of their more "childlike" friends and family gravitate toward. .. ps: and beyond that, folks might have a sentimental attachment to stuff from their childhood despite having progressed emotionally. I mean, I have to admit that I enjoyed the first three Jackson flicks quite a bit. It was fun seeing the lit from my childhood come alive on the screen.
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Post by siftingtothetruth on Nov 19, 2019 10:44:08 GMT -5
Another POV on this from comic book writer & novelist Alan Moore: "I think the impact of superheroes on popular culture is both tremendously embarrassing and not a little worrying. While these characters were originally perfectly suited to stimulating the imaginations of their twelve or thirteen year-old audience, today’s franchised übermenschen, aimed at a supposedly adult audience, seem to be serving some kind of different function, and fulfilling different needs. Primarily, mass-market superhero movies seem to be abetting an audience who do not wish to relinquish their grip on (a) their relatively reassuring childhoods, or (b) the relatively reassuring 20th century. The continuing popularity of these movies to me suggests some kind of deliberate, self-imposed state of emotional arrest, combined with an numbing condition of cultural stasis that can be witnessed in comics, movies, popular music and, indeed, right across the cultural spectrum. The superheroes themselves – largely written and drawn by creators who have never stood up for their own rights against the companies that employ them, much less the rights of a Jack Kirby or Jerry Siegel or Joe Schuster – would seem to be largely employed as cowardice compensators, perhaps a bit like the handgun on the nightstand. I would also remark that save for a smattering of non-white characters (and non-white creators) these books and these iconic characters are still very much white supremacist dreams of the master race. In fact, I think that a good argument can be made for D.W. Griffith’s Birth of a Nation as the first American superhero movie, and the point of origin for all those capes and masks." That's far more culturally laden than my analysis. .. though Alan and I both agree - in a general sense - that the superhero is a mechanism for re-introducing story elements that had gone out of fashion with the educated elites. His allusion to race doesn't rezz with me though. It reminds me of "the orcs are black people! " reaction to the Rings movies. I do agree with his point about emotional arrest, though, but I take it (and my analysis) with a big 'ole grain of salt, as it seems to me that lots of folks are just going along with what their kids want or what some of their more "childlike" friends and family gravitate toward. .. ps: and beyond that, folks might have a sentimental attachment to stuff from their childhood despite having progressed emotionally. I mean, I have to admit that I enjoyed the first three Jackson flicks quite a bit. It was fun seeing the lit from my childhood come alive on the screen. Yup, true. And Alan might just be getting to be a grumpy old man yelling at the kids to get off the lawn
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Post by laughter on Nov 19, 2019 16:54:10 GMT -5
That's far more culturally laden than my analysis. .. though Alan and I both agree - in a general sense - that the superhero is a mechanism for re-introducing story elements that had gone out of fashion with the educated elites. His allusion to race doesn't rezz with me though. It reminds me of "the orcs are black people! " reaction to the Rings movies. I do agree with his point about emotional arrest, though, but I take it (and my analysis) with a big 'ole grain of salt, as it seems to me that lots of folks are just going along with what their kids want or what some of their more "childlike" friends and family gravitate toward. .. ps: and beyond that, folks might have a sentimental attachment to stuff from their childhood despite having progressed emotionally. I mean, I have to admit that I enjoyed the first three Jackson flicks quite a bit. It was fun seeing the lit from my childhood come alive on the screen. Yup, true. And Alan might just be getting to be a grumpy old man yelling at the kids to get off the lawn Which is, of course, a timeless human story .. did you know that the boomers used to have this expression? : "don't trust anyone over 30" .. well, actually, I think they probably got it, ironically, fed to them from the beats ...
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