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Post by laughter on Apr 27, 2015 12:07:40 GMT -5
Thing is, you've both fallen under each other's spell. Sometimes the best way to deal with fire, is more fire. If Roy had stuck around, he could have educated us as to the literal truth of that idea.
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Post by laughter on Apr 27, 2015 12:13:58 GMT -5
It's so petty, better not bother.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 12:16:20 GMT -5
Do you even what I have written? You are projecting Andrew as a fighting person with you. There is no other to control or ask them to behave in a certain way. What other and you are doing is the perfect unfolding of universe, when you know you can't do anything universe starts to unfold in different way where you no need to control or ask them to behave in certain way. The perfect unfolding of the universe cannot not include the mixture of adhering to facts and holding onto delusion within a forum. I don't think you understood what I meant, What I meant by unfolding universe is continual of present movement of every individual. If you believe you could do something to come out of any kind of worst situation, then you need to experience some kind of control or rejection. But in truth there is no need to control or reject if you know nothing can be done, unfolding universe would not put you in situation of rejection or control.
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Post by figgles on Apr 27, 2015 12:16:27 GMT -5
Exactly. The moving threads thing seems just so odd to me in light of how easy it is to avoid content here that one finds boring, silly, or otherwise 'not interesting.' That's true, but if you're interested in the subject of the thread, and you're interested in reading posts about the subject of the thread rather than diatribes and name-calling, the only choice is to wade through pages of that stuff in an effort to find subject-related posts. If we could scroll through all postings without having to flip to new pages to re-scroll, it would help a lot, but currently that isn't an option. Sometimes there are so many postings in such a short period of time that a lot of time is required just to flip pages and scroll to get updated. Yes, I hear you about the scrolling through bit...I do a lot of that here actually myself, and don't mind it too much..seems to be able to spend no more than 10 sec. of so on each page in order to scan to see if anything catches interest...I guess if you're really pressed for time, it might be a bit of a pain though.
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Post by Reefs on Apr 27, 2015 12:16:34 GMT -5
Yup, basically Andrew wants his personal moralism model to be the standard forum model of acceptable behavior. It's control freakism. Not at all. I responded based on a standard that I saw popee set. If the forum was unmoderated, I wouldn't have spoken to popee. You know that since page 713, when I quoted the forum rules. But about 100 pages later, you are still speaking as if you wouldn't know. Stuck much?
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Post by Reefs on Apr 27, 2015 12:20:19 GMT -5
That's not what happened. The opposite is true. You actually did everything you could do to make it go out of hand, you even wanted mod intervention. T hat's factually incorrect. The initial intervention I asked for was reasonable and fair based on the burst of insults. If the anti moral crusade hadn't begun in which turds were polished, egos were defended, and insults were declared that they have to be false in order to be an insult ( that really is quite funny), there would have been no big deal. My ego has been involved. Has yours? Nope, I've just quoted your original exchange with Popee. He dismissed your case right away. But you just couldn't accept it and badgered him. Facts are facts. Just look into the archives. And you still can't accept it.
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Post by andrew on Apr 27, 2015 12:24:23 GMT -5
T hat's factually incorrect. The initial intervention I asked for was reasonable and fair based on the burst of insults. If the anti moral crusade hadn't begun in which turds were polished, egos were defended, and insults were declared that they have to be false in order to be an insult ( that really is quite funny), there would have been no big deal. My ego has been involved. Has yours? Nope, I've just quoted your original exchange with Popee. He dismissed your case right away. But you just couldn't accept it and badgered him. Facts are facts. Just look into the archives. And you still can't accept it. Yes the facts are facts, you were insulting tenka. Popee wasn't direct with me at the time, but he has been since, which I appreciated. I find it amusing that you think your ego isn't involved throughout all this.
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Post by Reefs on Apr 27, 2015 12:26:16 GMT -5
I don't think Enigma and I signed up to be your moralism students either. Said that, your campaign is getting more than just a little out of hand. I'm happy to drop the issue, but you are still going, so I'll play along until the energy of it all is done.Let's be clear here though, I spoke to popee about curbing your insults, I didn't sign you up to a moral lesson, I would consider the attempt to be futile. This is about the 3rd time in this thread that you voice an interest in dropping the issue. And I've just checked, this is page 811, and on page 833 you are still there. Somehow you just can't quit. You blame those evil others that keep it going and don't let you drop it? What are you, a clown? Just admit it, you have no interest in dropping it. Your interest is being right and having the last word on the issue.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 12:28:53 GMT -5
Not at all. I responded based on a standard that I saw popee set. If the forum was unmoderated, I wouldn't have spoken to popee. You know that since page 713, when I quoted the forum rules. But about 100 pages later, you are still speaking as if you wouldn't know. Stuck much? the Shawn quote you've been posting only pertains to the UM section moderation is available for all other sections of the forum (use the report button) but as for my interpretations of the surprisingly thin rule book....
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Post by Reefs on Apr 27, 2015 12:30:15 GMT -5
The entire forum is unmoderated. Your outrage has no basis. phoney campaign page count: 105 If the whole forum IS unmoderated, then I agree it makes no sense to ask popee to step in. It also makes no sense that you still keep defending your position. On what grounds? Your personal standard? Who cares? It's just an opinion, not a forum rule.
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Post by Reefs on Apr 27, 2015 12:32:31 GMT -5
There was no intention to insult. And I wasn't reading you posts at the time either. You've got it all wrong. You'd better barked up Tzu for his 'institutionalized' and 'psychotic' comments. That's the meaty stuff. But it seems your agenda doesn't allow that. So you have to go for the petty stuff. Of course there was an intention to insult. Every insult comes with an intention to insult i.e to demean and disparage.
Like I said, you may not be present enough to be very aware of what you are doing, but I don't believe that you are dense to the degree that you don't know that you are being insulting. Sounds like a tautology.
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Post by andrew on Apr 27, 2015 12:33:06 GMT -5
I'm happy to drop the issue, but you are still going, so I'll play along until the energy of it all is done.Let's be clear here though, I spoke to popee about curbing your insults, I didn't sign you up to a moral lesson, I would consider the attempt to be futile. This is about the 3rd time in this thread that you voice an interest in dropping the issue. And I've just checked, this is page 811, and on page 833 you are still there. Somehow you just can't quit. You blame those evil others that keep it going and don't let you drop it? What are you, a clown? Just admit it, you have no interest in dropping it. Your interest is being right and having the last word on the issue. I am fine to drop the issue, but am also willing to keep going, though we are also arguing about other things too. I can state clearly the only thing I am arguing with you in relation to the issue between you and tenka from many pages ago. You were insulting tenka in a relatively strong way. What are you arguing? That you weren't? Well, I could possibly agree to disagree on the matter, though I will consider you to be deluding yourself (no big change there then )
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Post by Reefs on Apr 27, 2015 12:33:24 GMT -5
Everyone is an extension of source. Which means everyone has exactly the same resources at their disposal, always. How more fair can it get? That's an oversimplification, we might as well say that genocide requires no intervention on that basis. Why would you conclude that?
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Post by Reefs on Apr 27, 2015 12:35:31 GMT -5
No, it's a conclusion based on the fact that insults come with an intent to insult. Intent of another is not a fact, it's a speculation. Once you speculate on intent, you conclude it's insult, then declare both speculation and conclusion as fact. Yes, even his mentor Tenka was teaching that.
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Post by Reefs on Apr 27, 2015 12:37:01 GMT -5
This is all just a case of reefs won't back down and andrew won't back down. reefs is like a gambler who is loosing and keeps doubling down. He looses and says, double or nothing. looses again and says, double or nothing, and again and again. But from another POV reverse the roles of reefs and Andrew. Yeah. I'm fine to say that I'm coming from ego, that I do insult at times, that I can be passively and overtly aggressive at times etc, so in a way, I've got nothing to lose which makes it easy to keep going. On the other hand, I'm very disinterested in the same points being rehashed, so am genuinely ready for it to end. My feeling is that Reefs can't let this one go, though I'm not actually sure what point he is determined to prove. Are you really that dense? You're hopeless, dude!
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