|
Post by tzujanli on Mar 3, 2015 20:51:17 GMT -5
I *know* that what is happening is not 'finished' happening, from which i *know*, based on simple observation, that improvement is possible, individually AND collectively.. my understanding is that *excellence* is improvement that benefits the individual(s) and the whole, not at the expense of either or at the exclusion of others for a greater benefit for a few.. Excellence is experienced as the potential for a greater version of Life to emerge through you, as you, and the will to expand into it.. ok thanks. Personally I have no interest in any of that. It all seems tiring and overly complicated (which may not be your intention) I can't do anything more than what's in front of me, and I don't know what that is until it happens. That might be something unfolding in front of me, or a clear urge to do something. An example was this morning I was driving to work (still dark) and the trailer lights of the guy in front of me were not working properly. His mobile number was clearly visible so I sent him a text message this morning and told him his lights were stuffed. He said thanks. I said no worries. What was to be done was clear and obvious, and I just followed directions. Cool, i have little interest in it either, i'm just acknowledging my understanding in response to your questions..
|
|
|
Post by earnest on Mar 4, 2015 1:02:22 GMT -5
You responded to the statement but ignored the question... I'll reframe a bit, how do you *know* what finished or excellence is? Hi earnest, just my 2 cents. I would say that if someone thinks they need perpetual finishing and excellence, they are really saying that what they are is un-finished and not excellent. Those are just thoughts that never arise in Self-Realization, Being, Knowing, Awareness, etc, etc, Yeah that's my feel of it, they're just thoughts. Thinking about tzus garden reference, it's finished whenever you put the tools down or something
|
|
|
Post by tzujanli on Mar 4, 2015 6:22:11 GMT -5
Hi earnest, just my 2 cents. I would say that if someone thinks they need perpetual finishing and excellence, they are really saying that what they are is un-finished and not excellent. Those are just thoughts that never arise in Self-Realization, Being, Knowing, Awareness, etc, etc, Yeah that's my feel of it, they're just thoughts. Thinking about tzus garden reference, it's finished whenever you put the tools down or something The garden continues after the gardener sets his tools down and after the gardener has left.. " Self-Realization, Being, Knowing, Awareness, etc, etc", are thoughts that never arise for the person that is fully present in what is actually happening, like gardening..
|
|
|
Post by enigma on Mar 4, 2015 20:25:00 GMT -5
I *know* that what is happening is not 'finished' happening, from which i *know*, based on simple observation, that improvement is possible, individually AND collectively.. my understanding is that *excellence* is improvement that benefits the individual(s) and the whole, not at the expense of either or at the exclusion of others for a greater benefit for a few.. Excellence is experienced as the potential for a greater version of Life to emerge through you, as you, and the will to expand into it.. ok thanks. Personally I have no interest in any of that. It all seems tiring and overly complicated (which may not be your intention) I can't do anything more than what's in front of me, and I don't know what that is until it happens. That might be something unfolding in front of me, or a clear urge to do something. An example was this morning I was driving to work (still dark) and the trailer lights of the guy in front of me were not working properly. His mobile number was clearly visible so I sent him a text message this morning and told him his lights were stuffed. He said thanks. I said no worries. What was to be done was clear and obvious, and I just followed directions. You were texting while driving behind a guy who's brake lights weren't working??
|
|
|
Post by earnest on Mar 4, 2015 20:50:50 GMT -5
ok thanks. Personally I have no interest in any of that. It all seems tiring and overly complicated (which may not be your intention) I can't do anything more than what's in front of me, and I don't know what that is until it happens. That might be something unfolding in front of me, or a clear urge to do something. An example was this morning I was driving to work (still dark) and the trailer lights of the guy in front of me were not working properly. His mobile number was clearly visible so I sent him a text message this morning and told him his lights were stuffed. He said thanks. I said no worries. What was to be done was clear and obvious, and I just followed directions. You were texting while driving behind a guy who's brake lights weren't working?? Heh heh Nah just got his number and texted him when I got to work. Thankfully those directions coming out of the silence aren't too casual on road safety
|
|
|
Post by enigma on Mar 5, 2015 1:30:58 GMT -5
You were texting while driving behind a guy who's brake lights weren't working?? Heh heh Nah just got his number and texted him when I got to work. Thankfully those directions coming out of the silence aren't too casual on road safety Okay, that's not as fun, though.
|
|