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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jan 9, 2017 19:01:21 GMT -5
......................bumped........................ That's why he didn't want to say the obvious? I cannot help its self but the Self supports the I. Nothing is LOST! I don't know. (Only he knows).
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jan 9, 2017 19:02:30 GMT -5
You can only ever experience the body conceptually. The body is a concept. That's not my experience, but who am I to argue with your concepts. sdp ......................bumped...............
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jan 9, 2017 19:03:57 GMT -5
In this moment, are you aware of all your body parts at once? Of course not. If you are experiencing your head(sensation) then you are not experiencing your feet(sensation). You never actually experience a 'body', just sensations. That was the whole point of sdp's koan. 'What are you not experiencing the non-absence of'? You are not experiencing a body, even though you believe you are a body. Then SDP's game is even sillierer than I thought. .........bumped, mostly for rupa's post............
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 19:04:09 GMT -5
Absolutely. But if you think your body is blinking in and out of the world, hire someone for one day to keep watching your body so that when you "do not experience the presence of your body", you'll know it didn't blink out of existence. (I'm not being sarcastic, I really don't know how else to answer your question). sdp .............bumped (mostly for teetown's post)............. the idea is to EXPAND ones awareness so that it dosen't exclude the Body-mind. Those Buddhist folk call it minds-fullness.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jan 9, 2017 19:06:07 GMT -5
On page 2, May 14, 8:28, because of rupa's post, the question became more specified to: There is something which you regularly do not experience the (non)absence of every day, a significant part of every day. Essentially, that became the (more specified) question. Your post above would not apply. sdp So, the question and answer changed from the OP? Apparently I did not experience the (non)absence of the transition as well. ...............bumped, with apology (not really) to topology..................
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 19:07:02 GMT -5
Then SDP's game is even sillierer than I thought. .........bumped, mostly for rupa's post............ Mind devides that body into parts... Awareness isn't like that.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jan 9, 2017 19:07:44 GMT -5
.............bumped (mostly for teetown's post)............. the idea is to EXPAND ones awareness so that it dosen't exclude the Body-mind.Those Buddhist folk call it minds-fullness. Bingo. (But I had to spoon-feed the answer).
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jan 9, 2017 19:08:45 GMT -5
.........bumped, mostly for rupa's post............ Mind devides that body into parts... Awareness isn't like that. Bingo again. (Yes, correct).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 19:09:58 GMT -5
That's why he didn't want to say the obvious? I cannot help its self but the Self supports the I. Nothing is LOST! I don't know. (Only he knows). I can NEVER know. If He is coming from his I then, the he is another fraud.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jan 9, 2017 19:11:33 GMT -5
If you're not experiencing it, but it's still present, where does it go? It doesn't go anywhere, but it leaves your consciousness. sdp ....................bumped..................
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 19:13:22 GMT -5
the idea is to EXPAND ones awareness so that it dosen't exclude the Body-mind.Those Buddhist folk call it minds-fullness. Bingo. (But I had to spoon-feed the answer). that wobbly spoon? He is acting-out on Gopal's behalf again. Pretty soon I will be holidaying again.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jan 9, 2017 19:13:25 GMT -5
Yeah. I only guessed it because halfway through he started dropping no so subtle hints about body parts, not because I was able to follow the line of thinking. I still don't see how the answer (the body) fits into the original question "where are you." That's why I wrote: then there is ~ you~, as attending, in some sense. (in the OP) I was trying to indicate looking in a not-obvious direction. You get bonus points for seeing all the hints and seeing what they were pointing to. But I wanted you to experience the answer, not just conceptualize it. sdp .....................bumped....................
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 19:15:13 GMT -5
It doesn't go anywhere, but it leaves your consciousness. sdp ....................bumped.................. Mind can only do one thing perfectly at one time. Mind needs to be directed by a Director that being outside the mind.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jan 9, 2017 19:15:28 GMT -5
" The body" didn't come to my mind because the body is an object within my field of perception. My response to "where are you?" Would be 'perceiving' as my "location" is more about what state exists than in what subregion of the perceptive field do I locate myself? But when you are awake, the body always has the possibility of being an object in the field of your perception, it is not always in your consciousness. That's the point I was making. sdp ................bumped..................
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jan 9, 2017 19:17:23 GMT -5
....................bumped.................. Mind can only do one thing perfectly at one time. Mind needs to be directed by a Director that being outside the mind.Yes. But you don't ~ need~ the mind. You only need the "Director".
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