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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2013 19:40:57 GMT -5
Have you exhausted your own words now? You take words to have energy? No, I meant that using a quote is unlike you. And yes we arrived in history awhile back
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Post by laughter on Nov 23, 2013 19:44:06 GMT -5
You take words to have energy? No, I meant that using a quote is unlike you. And yes we arrived in history awhile back History is always there ... but do you see it for what it is? As far as that meaning of "exhausting the words" is concerned -- if it ain't broke don't fix it! To exist is to entangle.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2013 19:52:56 GMT -5
No, I meant that using a quote is unlike you. And yes we arrived in history awhile back History is always there ... but do you see it for what it is?As far as that meaning of "exhausting the words" is concerned -- if it ain't broke don't fix it! To exist is to entangle. Probably not, I often go with the principle that if the last action I did, was in favour of someone then that is the starting block for next time.If the need for a leveler is felt then it's naturally forth coming. That's well heavy
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Post by laughter on Nov 23, 2013 20:00:19 GMT -5
History is always there ... but do you see it for what it is?As far as that meaning of "exhausting the words" is concerned -- if it ain't broke don't fix it! To exist is to entangle. Probably not, I often go with the principle that if the last action I did, was in favour of someone then that is the starting block for next time.Change is the nature of existence and favoring something is just making a choice. The choosing happens, but we can see that for what it is, a happening. If the need for a leveler is felt then it's naturally forth coming. Sure I get what you mean by that. Existence is not being.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2013 20:08:32 GMT -5
Probably not, I often go with the principle that if the last action I did, was in favour of someone then that is the starting block for next time. Change is the nature of existence and favoring something is just making a choice. The choosing happens, but we can see that for what it is, a happening. If the need for a leveler is felt then it's naturally forth coming. Sure I get what you mean by that. Existence is not being. So, to you, is being, empty?And therefore, existence movement?
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Post by laughter on Nov 23, 2013 20:23:13 GMT -5
Change is the nature of existence and favoring something is just making a choice. The choosing happens, but we can see that for what it is, a happening. Sure I get what you mean by that. Existence is not being. So, to you, is being, empty?And therefore, existence movement? Yes. It's a fine distinction, but remember that all distinction is use of the mind. There's no untangling the knot but that's ok, just see the rope knotted around your waist for what it is: something to hold up your slacks.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2013 20:34:08 GMT -5
I don't wear slacks.
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Post by laughter on Nov 23, 2013 21:11:44 GMT -5
It was just a metaphor wrapped in a hypo!
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Post by laughter on Nov 24, 2013 0:42:21 GMT -5
What?? You'd tap a cats nose?? I've got 4 of them ... no way I'd ever do that! Seriously! Where do you think the sentence came from? (** garfield snicker **)
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Post by laughter on Nov 27, 2013 0:22:33 GMT -5
I was trying to place Autumnleaf there, but came up empty. Can't imagine who you thought she was...... Do you take the term "came up empty" there as in "coming empty"? IOW: is that what coming empty means to you? I'm not interested in the current factual instance at bar btw, it's more a question of how you interpret the abstraction of "coming empty".
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2013 0:30:17 GMT -5
I was trying to place Autumnleaf there, but came up empty. Can't imagine who you thought she was...... Do you take the term "came up empty" there as in "coming empty"? IOW: is that what coming empty means to you? I'm not interested in the current factual instance at bar btw, it's more a question of how you interpret the abstraction of "coming empty". No, I just meant there that I looked back to my days at pavlina and could not think of anyone I ran into that in my estimation, was Autumn. I 'drew a blank.' I see 'coming empty' as it relates to engagement on this forum, as approaching each conversation with as little past baggage and judgment about the poster and their message, as possible....as clean a slate as possible in terms of previously formed opinions, perceptions and judgments about who or what the other is and what their main focus or level of understanding is...etc. Undoubtedly, truly 'coming empty,' can get challenging when 'relationships' have been ongoing for some time...but I think it's a good thing to be aware of.
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Post by laughter on Nov 27, 2013 0:35:24 GMT -5
No, I just meant there that I looked back to my days at pavlina and could not think of anyone I ran into that in my estimation, was Autumn. I 'drew a blank.' I see 'coming empty' as it relates to engagement on this forum, as approaching each conversation with as little past baggage and judgment about the poster and their message, as possible.... as clean a slate as possible in terms of previously formed opinions, perceptions and judgments about who or what the other is and what their main focus or level of understanding is...etc. Undoubtedly, truly 'coming empty,' can get challenging when 'relationships' have been ongoing for some time...but I think it's a good thing to be aware of. By "clean slate of opinions", do you mean disregarding specific points that were made in previous conversations? Do you mean disregarding impressions expressed in previous conversations?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2013 1:14:19 GMT -5
No, I just meant there that I looked back to my days at pavlina and could not think of anyone I ran into that in my estimation, was Autumn. I 'drew a blank.' I see 'coming empty' as it relates to engagement on this forum, as approaching each conversation with as little past baggage and judgment about the poster and their message, as possible.... as clean a slate as possible in terms of previously formed opinions, perceptions and judgments about who or what the other is and what their main focus or level of understanding is...etc. Undoubtedly, truly 'coming empty,' can get challenging when 'relationships' have been ongoing for some time...but I think it's a good thing to be aware of. By "clean slate of opinions", do you mean disregarding specific points that were made in previous conversations? Do you mean disregarding impressions expressed in previous conversations? Oh I dunno...that's getting way to particular...."Coming empty" is Just coming as 'fresh' and 'unburdened' by judgment about the other as possible to each conversation. Obviously we cannot make ourselves forget past encounters, but we can approach each new one from a place of openness. & Yes, If there's an ongoing discussion, that might include reference to past posts. If there's been an ongoing pattern in play, if we're open, we just might have a different encounter or see something different or have a different understanding of what the other is saying....if we're closed and our mind is made up, that's unlikely.
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Post by laughter on Nov 27, 2013 1:19:10 GMT -5
By "clean slate of opinions", do you mean disregarding specific points that were made in previous conversations? Do you mean disregarding impressions expressed in previous conversations? Oh I dunno...that's getting way to particular...."Coming empty" is Just coming as 'fresh' and 'unburdened' by judgment about the other as possible to each conversation. Obviously we cannot make ourselves forget past encounters, but we can approach each new one from a place of openness. & Yes, If there's an ongoing discussion, that might include reference to past posts. If there's been an ongoing pattern in play, if we're open, we just might have a different encounter or see something different or have a different understanding of what the other is saying....if we're closed and our mind is made up, that's unlikely. Thanks.
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