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Post by Beingist on Oct 1, 2013 12:36:40 GMT -5
Please note the bolded above. Get rid of the personal in every post, you'll get rid of anything 'disagreeable'. By that, I mean not allowing anyone to address a poster. Talking about a subject is rarely a problem. Addressing the poster about anything is fuel for a fire, just about every time. Don't know if that can be done, in all honesty. I agree. Not just "personal attacks", but all personal comments would have to be banned. Even something intended as neutral, directed about another person, can be taken as a personal attack. Even comments about people in general is likely to be taken personally by somebody, which starts to make it hard to talk at all. Yep, rezzin'.
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Post by silence on Oct 1, 2013 20:20:55 GMT -5
Other than the hash slinging, I've enjoyed many exchanges on the forum over the last few years. I consider the journey of Self-exploration and Self-discovery one of the most, if not THE most, fascinating adventure in human life. I also consider it unending because there is no way to know what will happen next. Adyashanti writes about this endless unfoldment in his book "Falling Into Grace." He notes that after seeing through the illusion of the seeker, he spent several years enjoying what I call "ordinary life"--life free of seeking--just doing whatever needed to be done on a moment-by-moment basis. Then, he sensed that "something was moving," and he realized that the journey had not ended. Mooji has often spoken about the same thing. In the life of this body/mind the same sort of thing has been experienced. After the search for truth came to an end in 1999 (with the realization that the REAL seeker had not been a person--ha ha), it lived an ordinary life building homes, managing rental properties, writing about non-duality and other interesting subjects, dancing, hiking, etc. During the last fourteen years there was some sporadic ATA, but it just happened whenever it happened. There was no person doing it in order to get something or find something. The body/mind stayed busy with work and many different activities. Then, about two months ago, just like Adyashanti, I realized that "something was moving/changing." The body began sitting in meditation for several hours each day, and ATA became intense. This has continued, and now a great deal of each day is spent with virtually no thinking at all. There is only looking and listening in silence. When I get into a car to drive somewhere, attention automatically shifts to universal sound, then to other sounds, then to whatever is seen, and then to the feeling of the car's movements/vibrations/etc. Attention moves back and forth between sounds, sights, and feelings seemingly at random, but the mind remains silent. I have a strong feeling that I know what this kind of silence will eventually lead to, but it is too soon to know for sure, or to say anything about it. It is simply of matter of waiting to see what will happen next. From my POV it is all a mysterious unfoldment of being. I can definitely relate to a sense of endless depth.
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Post by mamza on Oct 1, 2013 20:52:55 GMT -5
I've come to feel the way I did before I ever got interested in this stuff. I'm just a dumb kid working for a living and trying to get by. Lost in the grocery shopping, the music playing, the conversations and cooking and everything else. It's like spirituality never existed in the first place, which is amazing considering how much of a burning hole it was in my brain before. Occasionally I get that 'something ain't quite right' feeling, but most of the time I'm back to the rat race...albeit mindless this time.
Slight interest in my dreams and in taking an hour to listen to music in bed before sleeping is creeping in again, but we'll see how it goes.
On the off occasion that ATA happens, there's a total mind blank on everything other than direct senses that leaves me in a state other people tell me is addled, or sad, or out of it. But in that state everything seems to mesh together perfectly.
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Post by Reefs on Oct 2, 2013 1:23:29 GMT -5
Other than the hash slinging, I've enjoyed many exchanges on the forum over the last few years. I consider the journey of Self-exploration and Self-discovery one of the most, if not THE most, fascinating adventure in human life. I also consider it unending because there is no way to know what will happen next. Adyashanti writes about this endless unfoldment in his book "Falling Into Grace." He notes that after seeing through the illusion of the seeker, he spent several years enjoying what I call "ordinary life"--life free of seeking--just doing whatever needed to be done on a moment-by-moment basis. Then, he sensed that "something was moving," and he realized that the journey had not ended. Mooji has often spoken about the same thing. In the life of this body/mind the same sort of thing has been experienced. After the search for truth came to an end in 1999 (with the realization that the REAL seeker had not been a person--ha ha), it lived an ordinary life building homes, managing rental properties, writing about non-duality and other interesting subjects, dancing, hiking, etc. During the last fourteen years there was some sporadic ATA, but it just happened whenever it happened. There was no person doing it in order to get something or find something. The body/mind stayed busy with work and many different activities. Then, about two months ago, just like Adyashanti, I realized that "something was moving/changing." The body began sitting in meditation for several hours each day, and ATA became intense. This has continued, and now a great deal of each day is spent with virtually no thinking at all. There is only looking and listening in silence. When I get into a car to drive somewhere, attention automatically shifts to universal sound, then to other sounds, then to whatever is seen, and then to the feeling of the car's movements/vibrations/etc. Attention moves back and forth between sounds, sights, and feelings seemingly at random, but the mind remains silent. I have a strong feeling that I know what this kind of silence will eventually lead to, but it is too soon to know for sure, or to say anything about it. It is simply of matter of waiting to see what will happen next. From my POV it is all a mysterious unfoldment of being.A great undoing?
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Post by steven on Oct 2, 2013 1:45:04 GMT -5
Other than the hash slinging, I've enjoyed many exchanges on the forum over the last few years. I consider the journey of Self-exploration and Self-discovery one of the most, if not THE most, fascinating adventure in human life. I also consider it unending because there is no way to know what will happen next. Adyashanti writes about this endless unfoldment in his book "Falling Into Grace." He notes that after seeing through the illusion of the seeker, he spent several years enjoying what I call "ordinary life"--life free of seeking--just doing whatever needed to be done on a moment-by-moment basis. Then, he sensed that "something was moving," and he realized that the journey had not ended. Mooji has often spoken about the same thing. In the life of this body/mind the same sort of thing has been experienced. After the search for truth came to an end in 1999 (with the realization that the REAL seeker had not been a person--ha ha), it lived an ordinary life building homes, managing rental properties, writing about non-duality and other interesting subjects, dancing, hiking, etc. During the last fourteen years there was some sporadic ATA, but it just happened whenever it happened. There was no person doing it in order to get something or find something. The body/mind stayed busy with work and many different activities. Then, about two months ago, just like Adyashanti, I realized that "something was moving/changing." The body began sitting in meditation for several hours each day, and ATA became intense. This has continued, and now a great deal of each day is spent with virtually no thinking at all. There is only looking and listening in silence. When I get into a car to drive somewhere, attention automatically shifts to universal sound, then to other sounds, then to whatever is seen, and then to the feeling of the car's movements/vibrations/etc. Attention moves back and forth between sounds, sights, and feelings seemingly at random, but the mind remains silent. I have a strong feeling that I know what this kind of silence will eventually lead to, but it is too soon to know for sure, or to say anything about it. It is simply of matter of waiting to see what will happen next. From my POV it is all a mysterious unfoldment of being. :-) No need to know, only go straight, and not know. Your post brings a glassy eyed joy for you and God and this wonderful isness, and for gratitude. Haha, thought I might actually shead a little happy tear there for a sec ;-) But then I blinked it back lol
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Post by onehandclapping on Oct 2, 2013 3:47:11 GMT -5
Other than the hash slinging, I've enjoyed many exchanges on the forum over the last few years. I consider the journey of Self-exploration and Self-discovery one of the most, if not THE most, fascinating adventure in human life. I also consider it unending because there is no way to know what will happen next. Adyashanti writes about this endless unfoldment in his book "Falling Into Grace." He notes that after seeing through the illusion of the seeker, he spent several years enjoying what I call "ordinary life"--life free of seeking--just doing whatever needed to be done on a moment-by-moment basis. Then, he sensed that "something was moving," and he realized that the journey had not ended. Mooji has often spoken about the same thing. In the life of this body/mind the same sort of thing has been experienced. After the search for truth came to an end in 1999 (with the realization that the REAL seeker had not been a person--ha ha), it lived an ordinary life building homes, managing rental properties, writing about non-duality and other interesting subjects, dancing, hiking, etc. During the last fourteen years there was some sporadic ATA, but it just happened whenever it happened. There was no person doing it in order to get something or find something. The body/mind stayed busy with work and many different activities. Then, about two months ago, just like Adyashanti, I realized that "something was moving/changing." The body began sitting in meditation for several hours each day, and ATA became intense. This has continued, and now a great deal of each day is spent with virtually no thinking at all. There is only looking and listening in silence. When I get into a car to drive somewhere, attention automatically shifts to universal sound, then to other sounds, then to whatever is seen, and then to the feeling of the car's movements/vibrations/etc. Attention moves back and forth between sounds, sights, and feelings seemingly at random, but the mind remains silent. I have a strong feeling that I know what this kind of silence will eventually lead to, but it is too soon to know for sure, or to say anything about it. It is simply of matter of waiting to see what will happen next. From my POV it is all a mysterious unfoldment of being. It is interesting how changes or movements in this can sometimes be very subtle and then at other times seem like massive waves. And how you might not reflect on how much change has occurred for a long time and when you look up you find your waaaaay further down this so called path.... "This too shall pass" seems fitting though when it comes to this conversation.....
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Post by onehandclapping on Oct 2, 2013 3:58:10 GMT -5
Other than the hash slinging, I've enjoyed many exchanges on the forum over the last few years. I consider the journey of Self-exploration and Self-discovery one of the most, if not THE most, fascinating adventure in human life. I also consider it unending because there is no way to know what will happen next. Adyashanti writes about this endless unfoldment in his book "Falling Into Grace." He notes that after seeing through the illusion of the seeker, he spent several years enjoying what I call "ordinary life"--life free of seeking--just doing whatever needed to be done on a moment-by-moment basis. Then, he sensed that "something was moving," and he realized that the journey had not ended. Mooji has often spoken about the same thing. In the life of this body/mind the same sort of thing has been experienced. After the search for truth came to an end in 1999 (with the realization that the REAL seeker had not been a person--ha ha), it lived an ordinary life building homes, managing rental properties, writing about non-duality and other interesting subjects, dancing, hiking, etc. During the last fourteen years there was some sporadic ATA, but it just happened whenever it happened. There was no person doing it in order to get something or find something. The body/mind stayed busy with work and many different activities. Then, about two months ago, just like Adyashanti, I realized that "something was moving/changing." The body began sitting in meditation for several hours each day, and ATA became intense. This has continued, and now a great deal of each day is spent with virtually no thinking at all. There is only looking and listening in silence. When I get into a car to drive somewhere, attention automatically shifts to universal sound, then to other sounds, then to whatever is seen, and then to the feeling of the car's movements/vibrations/etc. Attention moves back and forth between sounds, sights, and feelings seemingly at random, but the mind remains silent. I have a strong feeling that I know what this kind of silence will eventually lead to, but it is too soon to know for sure, or to say anything about it. It is simply of matter of waiting to see what will happen next. From my POV it is all a mysterious unfoldment of being. What's universal sound?
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Post by steven on Oct 2, 2013 4:44:52 GMT -5
Other than the hash slinging, I've enjoyed many exchanges on the forum over the last few years. I consider the journey of Self-exploration and Self-discovery one of the most, if not THE most, fascinating adventure in human life. I also consider it unending because there is no way to know what will happen next. Adyashanti writes about this endless unfoldment in his book "Falling Into Grace." He notes that after seeing through the illusion of the seeker, he spent several years enjoying what I call "ordinary life"--life free of seeking--just doing whatever needed to be done on a moment-by-moment basis. Then, he sensed that "something was moving," and he realized that the journey had not ended. Mooji has often spoken about the same thing. In the life of this body/mind the same sort of thing has been experienced. After the search for truth came to an end in 1999 (with the realization that the REAL seeker had not been a person--ha ha), it lived an ordinary life building homes, managing rental properties, writing about non-duality and other interesting subjects, dancing, hiking, etc. During the last fourteen years there was some sporadic ATA, but it just happened whenever it happened. There was no person doing it in order to get something or find something. The body/mind stayed busy with work and many different activities. Then, about two months ago, just like Adyashanti, I realized that "something was moving/changing." The body began sitting in meditation for several hours each day, and ATA became intense. This has continued, and now a great deal of each day is spent with virtually no thinking at all. There is only looking and listening in silence. When I get into a car to drive somewhere, attention automatically shifts to universal sound, then to other sounds, then to whatever is seen, and then to the feeling of the car's movements/vibrations/etc. Attention moves back and forth between sounds, sights, and feelings seemingly at random, but the mind remains silent. I have a strong feeling that I know what this kind of silence will eventually lead to, but it is too soon to know for sure, or to say anything about it. It is simply of matter of waiting to see what will happen next. From my POV it is all a mysterious unfoldment of being. What's universal sound? There is a sound that pervades everything, if you are sensitive you can hear it there all the time inside everything. Its kinda a background vibration to things. If you sit and very quietly say auuuuuuuuuum, drawing out the uuuuuu sound for the whole breath, and centering your attention INTO the uuuuuuuuuu sound, you will kind of "tune in" to the sound, and hear it anytime anyplace while you are no longer saying auuuuuuum. If you sit and say auuuuuuuuuuuuuum just above a whisper for about ten minutes and then stop, you will hear it, and once you hear it it will be there available anytime you listen for it fir the rest of your life.
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Post by zendancer on Oct 2, 2013 6:31:09 GMT -5
OHC: There is a thread specifically discussing universal sound. Check it out.
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Post by sherry on Oct 9, 2013 9:01:12 GMT -5
Other than the hash slinging, I've enjoyed many exchanges on the forum over the last few years. I consider the journey of Self-exploration and Self-discovery one of the most, if not THE most, fascinating adventure in human life. I also consider it unending because there is no way to know what will happen next. Adyashanti writes about this endless unfoldment in his book "Falling Into Grace." He notes that after seeing through the illusion of the seeker, he spent several years enjoying what I call "ordinary life"--life free of seeking--just doing whatever needed to be done on a moment-by-moment basis. Then, he sensed that "something was moving," and he realized that the journey had not ended. Mooji has often spoken about the same thing. In the life of this body/mind the same sort of thing has been experienced. After the search for truth came to an end in 1999 (with the realization that the REAL seeker had not been a person--ha ha), it lived an ordinary life building homes, managing rental properties, writing about non-duality and other interesting subjects, dancing, hiking, etc. During the last fourteen years there was some sporadic ATA, but it just happened whenever it happened. There was no person doing it in order to get something or find something. The body/mind stayed busy with work and many different activities. Then, about two months ago, just like Adyashanti, I realized that "something was moving/changing." The body began sitting in meditation for several hours each day, and ATA became intense. This has continued, and now a great deal of each day is spent with virtually no thinking at all. There is only looking and listening in silence. When I get into a car to drive somewhere, attention automatically shifts to universal sound, then to other sounds, then to whatever is seen, and then to the feeling of the car's movements/vibrations/etc. Attention moves back and forth between sounds, sights, and feelings seemingly at random, but the mind remains silent. I have a strong feeling that I know what this kind of silence will eventually lead to, but it is too soon to know for sure, or to say anything about it. It is simply of matter of waiting to see what will happen next. From my POV it is all a mysterious unfoldment of being. Perhaps you are preparing to leave the 'marketplace' ? !
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