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Post by enigma on Sept 14, 2013 11:16:10 GMT -5
Obviously, your spearatyouality stuff is merely conceptual, and I surmise that this is why you and A have gone on for page after page, each with your own conceptual understanding of everything. For me, it IS beingness (or Intelligence, or God, or 'what is', or whatever you want to call it). How would you know? You've already claimed a gazillion times that you've never read him. Otherwise, I don't see Niz discussing concepts with anyone, but merely expressing what is. Yes, he challenged, but the challenge was all in the effort to negate conceptual understanding, and get folks to see their beingness (i.e., 'sense I am'). He believes in learning through osmosis~! I believe in looking and seeing.
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Post by Beingist on Sept 14, 2013 11:30:10 GMT -5
Obviously, your spearatyouality stuff is merely conceptual, and I surmise that this is why you and A have gone on for page after page, each with your own conceptual understanding of everything. For me, it IS beingness (or Intelligence, or God, or 'what is', or whatever you want to call it). How would you know? You've already claimed a gazillion times that you've never read him. Otherwise, I don't see Niz discussing concepts with anyone, but merely expressing what is. Yes, he challenged, but the challenge was all in the effort to negate conceptual understanding, and get folks to see their beingness (i.e., 'sense I am'). This isn't the advanced class. Mostly, what we do here is ego work, trying to be conscious, to stop the self deception. This isn't a Satsang. That would require sincerity. So sincerity is required for a satsang, but not in a spirituality forum? Didn't know that spirituality had survey and advanced classes. So Oneness is really broken up into beginner/intermediate/advanced Oneness? Is there a another forum, somewhere, for the advanced peeps to discuss stuff? Or, is that limited to satsangs? All that is, is right here, right now, E. I don't need a satsang to grasp that, to BE that.
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Post by Beingist on Sept 14, 2013 11:30:34 GMT -5
This isn't the advanced class. Mostly, what we do here is ego work, trying to be conscious, to stop the self deception. This isn't a Satsang. That would require sincerity. So sincerity is required for a satsang, but not in a spirituality forum? Didn't know that spirituality had survey and advanced classes. So Oneness is really broken up into beginner/intermediate/advanced Oneness? Is there a another forum, somewhere, for the advanced peeps to discuss stuff? Or, is that limited to satsangs? All that is, is right here, right now, E. one doesn't need a satsang to grasp that, to BE that.
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Post by enigma on Sept 14, 2013 11:40:45 GMT -5
This isn't the advanced class. Mostly, what we do here is ego work, trying to be conscious, to stop the self deception. This isn't a Satsang. That would require sincerity. So sincerity is required for a satsang, but not in a spirituality forum? Didn't know that spirituality had survey and advanced classes. So Oneness is really broken up into beginner/intermediate/advanced Oneness? Is there a another forum, somewhere, for the advanced peeps to discuss stuff? Or, is that limited to satsangs? All that is, is right here, right now, E. I don't need a satsang to grasp that, to BE that. Then why are you grasping things that aren't here, and being what you are not? Listen to yourself. Where does all this come from? Not your Beingness.
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Post by Beingist on Sept 14, 2013 11:44:21 GMT -5
So sincerity is required for a satsang, but not in a spirituality forum? Didn't know that spirituality had survey and advanced classes. So Oneness is really broken up into beginner/intermediate/advanced Oneness? Is there a another forum, somewhere, for the advanced peeps to discuss stuff? Or, is that limited to satsangs? All that is, is right here, right now, E. I don't need a satsang to grasp that, to BE that. Then why are you grasping things that aren't here, and being what you are not? Listen to yourself. Where does all this come from? Not your Beingness. That goes back to the question 'what am I?', which you have so passionately exclaimed to be misconceived. Are you now asking me that same misconceived question?
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Post by enigma on Sept 14, 2013 11:55:07 GMT -5
Then why are you grasping things that aren't here, and being what you are not? Listen to yourself. Where does all this come from? Not your Beingness. That goes back to the question 'what am I?', which you have so passionately exclaimed to be misconceived. Are you now asking me that same misconceived question? No, I'm not. I'm asking what I asked.
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Post by Beingist on Sept 14, 2013 11:58:36 GMT -5
That goes back to the question 'what am I?', which you have so passionately exclaimed to be misconceived. Are you now asking me that same misconceived question? No, I'm not. I'm asking what I asked. What you are asking me is a misconceived question. Ask it of yourself, for I cannot answer it for you.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2013 12:40:03 GMT -5
hehe....okay...maybe I"m having trouble in general with understanding tonight. Well, it's Friday night. How many glasses of vino have you had? Juuuuuuuuuust kidding. Glasses??? Ha!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2013 13:58:50 GMT -5
Sorry dude, thinking that the world IS a better place because of those interested in the truth/falsity dichotomy is part of the falsity... The world isn't a better place when peeps tell the truth? Does that apply to your friends and family? How bout the government? Your asking a leading question and your looking for confirmation of your own answers embedded in the question... Isn't that deceptive use of peeps 'telling the truth'?!
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Post by enigma on Sept 14, 2013 18:40:18 GMT -5
The world isn't a better place when peeps tell the truth? Does that apply to your friends and family? How bout the government? Your asking a leading question and your looking for confirmation of your own answers embedded in the question... And you're evading. Huh?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2013 21:31:29 GMT -5
Your asking a leading question and your looking for confirmation of your own answers embedded in the question... And you're evading. Huh? Why don't you rephrase the question without making it a leading one?
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Post by enigma on Sept 14, 2013 21:52:32 GMT -5
Why don't you rephrase the question without making it a leading one? Because it was rhetorical to begin with, and because I have no interest in playing your games.
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Post by laughter on Sept 15, 2013 3:27:12 GMT -5
Ahhh, life is so much more poignant with the occasional measure or two of unrequited love! (** blows Si a kiss **) Right... cynical!
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Post by laughter on Sept 15, 2013 3:39:28 GMT -5
Ah. Laffy! I just love Jimmy S. All I have to do is hear his name or see his pic and hear that delightful quirky voice of his ringing in my ears. Delightful! It's a Wonderful Life redeems every one of the thousands of unimaginative, exploitive, formulaic and nihilistic pieces of trash that the Hollywood crap machine has turned out. Between Wonderful Life, Harvey and Mr. Smith you've got pretty much every archetype ever written in scripture and coverage of at least 90% of the conversation that goes on here and at all the other speeritchal collesiums and then some. Who needs Jerusalem and The Council of Nicea when ya' got Frank Capra and L.A.?
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Post by laughter on Sept 15, 2013 3:46:04 GMT -5
You're just jealous cuz she paints purdier pictures than you do.......J/K I'm into realism more than impressionistic art. Laffy is into abstracts. Hehe. D@mn, thought noone would ever make my profile pic!
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