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Post by Beingist on Aug 23, 2013 22:33:48 GMT -5
Heh. B and E. Sounds like a rail line. Btw, Ag, what is it with you and thread titles that get songs stuck in my head?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2013 22:46:57 GMT -5
Tanks for the feedback, B and E. liked you quote so much..... In the beginning there was nothing and then it exploded an everything became enlivened with the Word, "Blardyhell!"
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Post by silver on Aug 23, 2013 22:51:19 GMT -5
Heh. B and E. Sounds like a rail line. Btw, Ag, what is it with you and thread titles that get songs stuck in my head? `Hah, have your Christmas shopping done yet? *evil laugh*
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Post by silver on Aug 23, 2013 22:53:48 GMT -5
Tanks for the feedback, B and E. liked you quote so much..... In the beginning there was nothing and then it exploded an everything became enlivened with the Word, "Blardyhell!" Omg, I didn't realized I'd spelled 'tanks' that way. blardyhell? I love my quote too - some tings cant get tired ov.
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Post by Beingist on Aug 23, 2013 23:23:22 GMT -5
Heh. B and E. Sounds like a rail line. Btw, Ag, what is it with you and thread titles that get songs stuck in my head? `Hah, have your Christmas shopping done yet? *evil laugh*
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Post by silver on Aug 23, 2013 23:30:41 GMT -5
Ha ha ha! I'm really scared!
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Post by runstill on Aug 23, 2013 23:43:52 GMT -5
You're looking for credit?! From people here?! Ag, you're looking in the wrong place for that. Besides that, such a question is indicative of belief in personhood (i.e., belief in a person who wants credit). It's actually kind of bad for you to receive any credit, anyway, as it just strokes the ego. As strange as it sounds, the more you are really loved here, the less credit you'll likely be given. Like, for anything. It's a weird dynamic, I know. Ahh that gave me a laugh, B. Well, maybe I didn't mean it exactly like that - credit as in just someone saying something like 'she's got it' or 'she understands' - not as in 'goodie goodie' or trying to get some applause or something. Well I'll give you credit for hanging around the forum as long as you have, but I stopped reading your post's a while back when they stopped helping to see 'what the heck is going on' as E might say, not that the conversation always needs to be about non-duality. One of the hardest 'tenets' as you put it is that you have 'no volition',this for me was very hard to accept I almost washed my hands of the whole non duality thing. If this becomes a stumbling block for you just put it aside and let the clarity come when it does. I brought this up because it's been mentioned by a number of people and being forewarned can help.
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Post by silver on Aug 23, 2013 23:50:11 GMT -5
Ahh that gave me a laugh, B. Well, maybe I didn't mean it exactly like that - credit as in just someone saying something like 'she's got it' or 'she understands' - not as in 'goodie goodie' or trying to get some applause or something. Well I'll give you credit for hanging around the forum as long as you have, but I stopped reading your post's a while back when they stopped helping to see 'what the heck is going on' as E might say, not that the conversation always needs to be about non-duality. One of the hardest 'tenets' as you put is that you have 'no violation' ,this for me was very hard to accept I almost washed my hands of the whole non duality thing. If this becomes a stumbling block for you just put it aside and let the clarity come when it does. I brought this up because it's been mentioned by a number of people and being forewarned can help. I almost got that feeling, that the convos always had to be strictly nondual, ata, etc., but that's just silly. I'm not sure, but do you mean 'no volition'? no violation doesn't sound quite right to me.
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Post by runstill on Aug 23, 2013 23:59:13 GMT -5
Fixed , your fast
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Post by silver on Aug 24, 2013 0:08:38 GMT -5
Yeah, I've definitely had big troubles accepting no volition/no will - have you come to 'see through' that issue yourself?
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Post by lolly on Aug 24, 2013 0:22:03 GMT -5
Yes. But you have to get to a point where you do "get it". Until then, asking for confirmation is useful as a "Am I looking in the right direction?" question towards someone you trust as seeing clearly and has already "got it". Ah, okay. Good point, top. Only problem is that most of us are pointing in different directions. E does the 'noticing' thing; ZD's got the ATA going; I, myself, go the Niz route with the 'sense I am' (but then, I also follow Adya's 'allowance' method). It would then depend on whom you trust, and would need to get the confirmation from them. Otherwise, I can say no more. I only trust the 'inner guru'. That's right... all these cats are on their own little bent... and basically, despite non-dual ethos, 'non' in itself recognizes 'not' the mind body, and clearly a distinction is made. I come to agree with the distinction as one can distinguish between what is experienced and what endures experiences.
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Post by runstill on Aug 24, 2013 0:50:30 GMT -5
Yeah, I've definitely had big troubles accepting no volition/no will - have you come to 'see through' that issue yourself? I would say around it because there can be a direct knowing without mind and that hasn't happened. Conceptually I feel comfortable with 'no volition/will'. If you want some time I'll give that information, more important though is that it doesn't matter any longer.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 8:06:01 GMT -5
liked you quote so much..... In the beginning there was nothing and then it exploded an everything became enlivened with the Word, "Blardyhell!" Omg, I didn't realized I'd spelled 'tanks' that way. blardyhell? I love my quote too - some tings cant get tired ov. did you create it?
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Post by Ishtahota on Aug 24, 2013 8:06:42 GMT -5
Somebody said that for them non-duality was something that just had to click before you could get it. I understand this well because it was that way for me. I studied and I learned from teachers,but none of that did it for me. For me there was a third part that had to come that put it all together for me. That third part for me came from spirit, higher power, God, higher self and/or what ever you wish to call it. For me it was the letting go that came from ceremony. Spirit work gave me that third part that put all of the pieces together and finally made it click for me. They showed me something else about all of this and how we as human beings work. My over all body vibration is directly tied to my comprehension of the knowledge that I have gained during my life. It is also tied into higher memory function. And then something else happened, my learning at some point became remembering. I was shown that all knowledge is already in side of us all. We just have to become willing to do the personal clearing work that unlocks it all. Working on our hatreds, and resentments, and the hardest of all, the fears that we have created.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 8:22:43 GMT -5
Somebody said that for them non-duality was something that just had to click before you could get it. I understand this well because it was that way for me. I studied and I learned from teachers,but none of that did it for me. For me there was a third part that had to come that put it all together for me. That third part for me came from spirit, higher power, God, higher self and/or what ever you wish to call it. For me it was the letting go that came from ceremony. Spirit work gave me that third part that put all of the pieces together and finally made it click for me. They showed me something else about all of this and how we as human beings work. My over all body vibration is directly tied to my comprehension of the knowledge that I have gained during my life. It is also tied into higher memory function. And then something else happened, my learning at some point became remembering. I was shown that all knowledge is already in side of us all. We just have to become willing to do the personal clearing work that unlocks it all. Working on our hatreds, and resentments, and the hardest of all, the fears that we have created. Yes Ish... ' personal clearing work that unlocks it all' unless the subconcious motivations are addressed, the spirit cannot flow-up clear within an love the hell out of everyone.
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