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Post by ???????? ???????????? on Jul 16, 2013 8:28:59 GMT -5
No, but seriously, kicking and saving penalties is much more than just instinct and practise. Everyone can kick and jump. The rock-paper-scissors aspect is important in penalties and increases the odds. You mean, they've studied their opponent and can reasonably guess? Of course. It's a science. All teams have detailed stats on every opponent's player. The goalkeeper knows before the match who most likely will shoot the penalties and he knows the tendencies, and the player of course knows that the goalkeeper knows. And also vice versa.
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Post by zendancer on Jul 16, 2013 8:52:44 GMT -5
IT IS ALL FOR NOTHING! Can you see where your own words are pointing? If you think they point to something different from what I already showed then please do tell where. Q: To make the point more clearly I should have written, "It IS all for nothing!" There is no payoff! There is no happy ending. But these words are not pointing to what the mind might think. Many years ago I took my young daughter on a road trip to see the Dalai Lama. He was going to speak at Indiana University where his brother was a professor. I could write a small book about that one trip because so many interesting and hilarious things happened on it. The fun began when the DL walked onstage. There were 5000 people in the audience and hundreds more in nearby rooms watching on TV's (because the auditorium couldn't hold all of the people). The DL walked up to the microphone and with great humility apologetically said, "I'm sorry. I have nothing for you." Then, he looked around the room with the tiniest smile. Several people who understood those words burst out laughing, but it took another ten or fifteen seconds before that isolated laughter made the majority of the audience realize that they had missed something important. Soon, the whole audience was roaring with laughter, but it was more from the contagious effect of the isolated laughter and the realization that somehow the joke was on them. I, too, have nothing for you. The question is whether you want to find out what that nothing IS, or whether you want to hold onto various beliefs about something. The only way to understand what's going on is to give up understanding! Only by kissing thoughts goodbye is it possible to see what is always here and now. Your body already understands what's going on, but your head is a million miles from the truth. Every new thought carries you farther away.
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Post by laughter on Jul 16, 2013 9:48:30 GMT -5
Body consciousness? The guy is dead, and you too will be dead soon, old man. I guess it was all for nothing. Haha. IT IS ALL FOR NOTHING! Can you see where your own words are pointing? The words that are coalescing around the current practice .... a futile imperative.
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Post by ???????? ???????????? on Jul 16, 2013 13:22:46 GMT -5
If you think they point to something different from what I already showed then please do tell where. Q: To make the point more clearly I should have written, "It IS all for nothing!" There is no payoff! There is no happy ending. But these words are not pointing to what the mind might think. Many years ago I took my young daughter on a road trip to see the Dalai Lama. He was going to speak at Indiana University where his brother was a professor. I could write a small book about that one trip because so many interesting and hilarious things happened on it. The fun began when the DL walked onstage. There were 5000 people in the audience and hundreds more in nearby rooms watching on TV's (because the auditorium couldn't hold all of the people). The DL walked up to the microphone and with great humility apologetically said, "I'm sorry. I have nothing for you." Then, he looked around the room with the tiniest smile. Several people who understood those words burst out laughing, but it took another ten or fifteen seconds before that isolated laughter made the majority of the audience realize that they had missed something important. Soon, the whole audience was roaring with laughter, but it was more from the contagious effect of the isolated laughter and the realization that somehow the joke was on them. I, too, have nothing for you. The question is whether you want to find out what that nothing IS, or whether you want to hold onto various beliefs about something. The only way to understand what's going on is to give up understanding! Only by kissing thoughts goodbye is it possible to see what is always here and now. Your body already understands what's going on, but your head is a million miles from the truth. Every new thought carries you farther away. TMT
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Post by topology on Jul 16, 2013 15:07:14 GMT -5
Q: To make the point more clearly I should have written, "It IS all for nothing!" There is no payoff! There is no happy ending. But these words are not pointing to what the mind might think. Many years ago I took my young daughter on a road trip to see the Dalai Lama. He was going to speak at Indiana University where his brother was a professor. I could write a small book about that one trip because so many interesting and hilarious things happened on it. The fun began when the DL walked onstage. There were 5000 people in the audience and hundreds more in nearby rooms watching on TV's (because the auditorium couldn't hold all of the people). The DL walked up to the microphone and with great humility apologetically said, "I'm sorry. I have nothing for you." Then, he looked around the room with the tiniest smile. Several people who understood those words burst out laughing, but it took another ten or fifteen seconds before that isolated laughter made the majority of the audience realize that they had missed something important. Soon, the whole audience was roaring with laughter, but it was more from the contagious effect of the isolated laughter and the realization that somehow the joke was on them. I, too, have nothing for you. The question is whether you want to find out what that nothing IS, or whether you want to hold onto various beliefs about something. The only way to understand what's going on is to give up understanding! Only by kissing thoughts goodbye is it possible to see what is always here and now. Your body already understands what's going on, but your head is a million miles from the truth. Every new thought carries you farther away. TMT It's so cute when the student tries to start beating the ZM with ZM's own stick!
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Post by ???????? ???????????? on Jul 16, 2013 16:48:12 GMT -5
It's so cute when the student tries to start beating the ZM with ZM's own stick! You don't understand anything. I'm not a student. Bobby is not a zen master. There is no beating and no sticks here.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2013 17:14:41 GMT -5
It's so cute when the student tries to start beating the ZM with ZM's own stick! You don't understand anything. I'm not a student. Bobby is not a zen master. There is no beating and no sticks here. I am aware that letters are appearing on a computer screen saying that, 'You don't understand anything. I'm not a student. Bobby is not a zen master. There is no beating and no sticks here'. Reason jumps in saying that there is a human being somewhere in the world typing that message. If you were 'aware' of your fingers typing the message then nothing is actually happening because there is just awareness at both ends of the typing and receiving of letters on a computer screen. TMT yes, but reason has to have something to reason with...
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Post by laughter on Jul 16, 2013 17:29:30 GMT -5
Hello ZD, "Practice effortlessly without a goal" is the take away from that. But Practice non-the-less. These days, too much emphasis seems to be on mentation and philosophizing, instead of Goaless Practice ;-) As an aside, right posture is important because ALERTNESS is important on this path. By having folks stay in "right" posture, you engender alertness without a mental "effort" to stay alert while sitting ZaZen. Its far to easy to just "zone out" into an almost trancelike state during ZaZen, or even ATA, and if one focuses too much on Alertness it can become a "goal" to stay alert.... good posture promotes alertness while not raising it to the point of a Goal once the posture becomes habitual. As an aside, have you noticed that while you are being attentive while "letting go", that the spine natural straitens in a way that it "comes to rest" in a straiter posture, and that you naturally breath deeper, all with no effort?Have experienced this in the opposite direction -- during stretches in the morning before sitting, the "tree pose" quiets the surface of the thinker ... it's a good prep.
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Post by topology on Jul 16, 2013 17:40:45 GMT -5
It's so cute when the student tries to start beating the ZM with ZM's own stick! You don't understand anything. I'm not a student. Bobby is not a zen master. There is no beating and no sticks here. *Pats CPQ on the head gently* There, there... SShhhh..... There, there... *Pats CPQ on the head gently*
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Post by lolly on Jul 17, 2013 7:35:28 GMT -5
I never know how the breathing will go, it gets very shallow sometimes and at other times it gets deeper.
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