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Post by silver on Jul 6, 2013 10:21:31 GMT -5
Greetings.. Whatever you believe about my intentions, the illusion you are trying to create speaks directly to your understanding of honesty.. in the same way that JLY cast the characters to represent his beliefs 'about' the characters, you cannot control your own beliefs, you cannot see clearly and so the judgments and choices you make are controlled by your beliefs, including your belief that "oneness is truth".. such that any challenge to that belief must be defeated rather than examined honestly on its merits.. you have spent years trying to defeat the challenge rather than honestly examine it.. part of your 'defense' is to try to destroy the messenger, rather than engage the message.. this is what is actually happening.. Be well.. There's your superiority complex again. Tsk tsk. Because he uses the word believe/beliefs etc., you say he has a superiority complex? More like an honesty complex. If threads like this were in the unmoderated section - you'd get so blasted. Your argument is as weak as grandma's tea...or should I say 'What argument?' It's just an accusation/smart remark. Just keep muttering under your breath.
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Post by Reefs on Jul 6, 2013 10:23:56 GMT -5
Greetings.. Do some dumpster diving.. look for how often you engage 'Tzu', in discussions where you weren't included until you saw what you perceive as an opening to make a case against 'Tzu" and for your beliefs.. i would have said "discussions where you were 'unprovoked', but you were provoked months ago, and remain attached to the sting of that interaction even now.. your battleground is your your active mind, and you are emotionally attached to it.. you pursue me every bit as much as you perceive that i pursue E.. it is the intentions that differ, though.. Be well.. I was thinking SF might even be a more interesting dive ... what is Tzu's login name over there? TzuJanLi. No-brainer. Tzu's account status is 'suspended'. Does that mean he got banned?
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Post by tzujanli on Jul 6, 2013 10:28:52 GMT -5
Greetings.. I was thinking SF might even be a more interesting dive ... what is Tzu's login name over there? TzuJanLi. No-brainer. Tzu's account status is 'suspended'. Does that mean he got banned? Yes.. are you so attached to the threat you believe 'Tzu' represents that you would actually go there looking for so way to defeat 'Tzu' that's pretty pathetic, even for you.. Be well..
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Post by silence on Jul 6, 2013 10:35:03 GMT -5
There's your superiority complex again. Tsk tsk. Because he uses the word believe/beliefs etc., you say he has a superiority complex? More like an honesty complex. If threads like this were in the unmoderated section - you'd get so blasted. Your argument is as weak as grandma's tea...or should I say 'What argument?' It's just an accusation/smart remark. Just keep muttering under your breath. The post directly above it is an elaboration on what I'm talking about. Your love for drama would have you ignore that though.
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Post by silver on Jul 6, 2013 10:38:25 GMT -5
Tsk tsk. Because he uses the word believe/beliefs etc., you say he has a superiority complex? More like an honesty complex. If threads like this were in the unmoderated section - you'd get so blasted. Your argument is as weak as grandma's tea...or should I say 'What argument?' It's just an accusation/smart remark. Just keep muttering under your breath. The post directly above it is an elaboration on what I'm talking about. Your love for drama would have you ignore that though. Do you mean this one? >>> Greetings.. Y'all are way over-thinking this.. it's really simple, just look and see.. but, you're 'thinkin' you're qualified to play psychologist/analyst, and you're not.. here's what i 'see', a whole lot of thinking y'all know more than others, especially those that disagree with you.. have you noticed how it is those that disagree with you that have the 'issues' that you feel qualified to analyze and criticize and provoke? i've even noticed that when there's nobody disagreeing with the analysts, they turn on each other, it's just their nature to try to create the illusions that they are superior.. now, if all that was happening was that people were looking and seeing and discussing what they see, rather than what they 'think' they see.. we would be talking about some way more interesting and productive stuff.. but, that might imply that the analysts were actually equal with everybody else, so.. well, just watch.. Be well.. The superiority thing has been endlessly pointed out to you. You've placed yourself up on the Tzu pedestal of still mind clarity while everyone else is too addicted to reporting beliefs. How does that change anything? (If this is the one you're referring to.)
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Post by Reefs on Jul 6, 2013 10:53:38 GMT -5
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Post by justlikeyou on Jul 6, 2013 11:01:21 GMT -5
I don't know. Freedom is a universal principle and I think it is possible to violate another beings Freedom. "Do no harm" seems to be another universal law. But ego wise there is hidden a very profound and powerful principle of "egoic penetration" in Jesus statement "resist not evil, overcome it with good". Also when the student was told by the Master that "When a man comes at you with a stick there are three ways to deal with him; run, fight or take his stick away" he too is pointing to a similar such principle. Because for the sage, every single encounter is a spiritual negotiation, knowingly or unknowingly, spoken or unspoken. I'm not sure what the bottom line is here. Where do you see freedom being violated, harm being done and evil being resisted? Or is all this hypotheoretical? I'm speaking hypothetically just here. Of freedom in general I am saying that I can't imagine any created thing that would prefer captivity or forced constraint upon It's freedom of expression just as it was designed to express. I am not, of course, discounting the need for public safety when I say this, I am speaking only to the principle in general. Everything has a right to It's expression because it is Self behind the expression, and the expression is the experience Self clearly wanted otherwise it would not be so. This includes the right to express and die in ignorance which clearly happens all the time. That's all I'm saying.
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Post by silver on Jul 6, 2013 11:09:46 GMT -5
And this proves what? You forgot to include phroggy's responses....not to mention all the other participants. This was just one of a handful of epic threads that drew attention from the mods/admin.
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Post by silence on Jul 6, 2013 11:11:44 GMT -5
I'm not sure what the bottom line is here. Where do you see freedom being violated, harm being done and evil being resisted? Or is all this hypotheoretical? I'm speaking hypothetically just here. Of freedom in general I am saying that I can't imagine any created thing that would prefer captivity or forced constraint upon It's freedom of expression just as it was designed to express. I am not, of course, discounting the need for public safety when I say this, I am speaking only to the principle in general. Everything has a right to It's expression because it is Self behind the expression, and the expression is the experience Self clearly wanted otherwise it would not be so. This includes the right to express and die in ignorance which clearly happens all the time. That's all I'm saying. Wouldn't the one robbing another of their precious ignorance also be an expression of Self having the "experience Self clearly wanted" as you say? When does the absurdity of the situation become clear.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2013 11:15:49 GMT -5
And this proves what? You forgot to include phroggy's responses....not to mention all the other participants. This was just one of a handful of epic threads that drew attention from the mods/admin. Reefs must not have gotten the big lollipop he wanted in the grocery store when he was 3 years old....
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Post by Reefs on Jul 6, 2013 11:21:36 GMT -5
Greetings.. TzuJanLi. No-brainer. Tzu's account status is 'suspended'. Does that mean he got banned? Yes.. are you so attached to the threat you believe 'Tzu' represents that you would actually go there looking for so way to defeat 'Tzu' that's pretty pathetic, even for you.. Be well.. That's your personal bogey man, eh?
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Post by silver on Jul 6, 2013 11:26:36 GMT -5
Greetings.. Yes.. are you so attached to the threat you believe 'Tzu' represents that you would actually go there looking for so way to defeat 'Tzu' that's pretty pathetic, even for you.. Be well.. That's your personal bogey man, eh? Use your indoor voice.
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Post by justlikeyou on Jul 6, 2013 11:32:31 GMT -5
I'm speaking hypothetically just here. Of freedom in general I am saying that I can't imagine any created thing that would prefer captivity or forced constraint upon It's freedom of expression just as it was designed to express. I am not, of course, discounting the need for public safety when I say this, I am speaking only to the principle in general. Everything has a right to It's expression because it is Self behind the expression, and the expression is the experience Self clearly wanted otherwise it would not be so. This includes the right to express and die in ignorance which clearly happens all the time. That's all I'm saying. Wouldn't the one robbing another of their precious ignorance also be an expression of Self having the "experience Self clearly wanted" as you say? Everything is an expression of Self. Even the guy who loses his tempter and kill's another in a rage. Doesn't mean it's right and it doesn't mean that expression shouldn't be held accountable. It means that if you believe dancing in the moonlight while drinking snakes blood is your idea of finding salvation, and you insist upon those beliefs, you have the right to be unmolested in that ignorance. Where is the absurdity in this?
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Post by Reefs on Jul 6, 2013 11:43:49 GMT -5
That's your personal bogey man, eh? Use your indoor voice. Didn't know that word scares Tzu that easily...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2013 13:07:35 GMT -5
And this proves what? You forgot to include phroggy's responses....not to mention all the other participants. This was just one of a handful of epic threads that drew attention from the mods/admin. Reefs must not have gotten the big lollipop he wanted in the grocery store when he was 3 years old.... These are the kind of childish posts that had me thinking that you was a young guy in his early 30's. You're clearly not given the social encounters that you've written about and the work history that you've described.
Time to tally up the tone of the weeks postings by you, me thinks.
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