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Post by amit on Jun 8, 2013 5:22:22 GMT -5
Hi steve, Is there something wrong with exploring? amit Not at all :-) Hi steve, Ok thats why I'm posting. In your opinion there is some trying going on? Why do you come to that conclusion and even if there was are you saying there is something wrong with trying? If so why is there something wrong with trying? amit |
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Post by tzujanli on Jun 8, 2013 6:14:58 GMT -5
Greetings.. Greetings.. It means that mind is a function of 'that' which i am, not separate from 'that'.. What do you mean by "all that appears"? Imagination can be creative or fantasy/illusory, what capacity of imagined/constructed are you referring to? Sensory input, and i include insight, intuition, and energetic frequency awareness as forms sensory input and information acquisition, but.. sensory input plays out and is revealed through the common medium of mind.. it is possible to deduce an argument that supports the belief that everything is 'imagined/constructed', because the sensory input is imaged in the mind's interface with consciousness, intelligence, awareness, and presence.. but, it is the singular process we have for translating awareness of our existence into actionable interaction with the environment, with others, with Life.. the notion that some people assert as true, that "it's all imagined", is not a productive communication or understanding.. Be well.. Hi tzu, Only a function and not actually 'that'? By "all that appears" I mean the whole of the manifestation of difference assumed to be infinite on infinite scales. amit The function is not separate from 'that', and 'is' that.. the reference to function/mind indicates its role as interface/catalyst between that which is separate from the individual's understanding/knowing and the individual's experience/exploration of that which it does not yet understand/know.. the experience/exploration of that which is not yet included in the individual's mindscape adds information about that which is not yet known/understood, it is another function of mind to fit the information into that mindscape so as to form a relationship/connectedness with that which was not yet known/understood.. Mind is the interface.. it is using language and intelligence to establish a relationship/connectedness as we interact through this forum, what was unknown, not yet existent, is being made known through the mind's functions/interface.. mind explores 'isness', that which is manifested into reality, and.. mind can imagine and create imagery/illusions 'about' that which it interacts with, and, mind can dismantle/let-go of beliefs and illusions, too.. mind is your portal/interface to your relationship with 'what you are'.. with the mind still and silent, that which you are is clear and without distortion.. "All that appears" is a functional expression that allows for what is seen/experienced to reveal itself in greater clarity. or.. it can also be distorted by belief about and attachment to the appearance.. sometimes though, "all that appears" is used to create the illusion that 'that which is', is not real, that what is experienced is imagined or an illusion itself, but that is a 'belief about' what is experienced.. Be well.. |
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Post by Beingist on Jun 8, 2013 8:34:23 GMT -5
Hi steve, Ok thats why I'm posting. In your opinion there is some trying going on? Why do you come to that conclusion and even if there was are you saying there is something wrong with trying? If so why is there something wrong with trying? amit "Try not. Do." -- Yoda |
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Post by amit on Jun 8, 2013 23:50:13 GMT -5
Greetings.. Hi tzu, Only a function and not actually 'that'? By "all that appears" I mean the whole of the manifestation of difference assumed to be infinite on infinite scales. amit The function is not separate from 'that', and 'is' that.. the reference to function/mind indicates its role as interface/catalyst between that which is separate from the individual's understanding/knowing and the individual's experience/exploration of that which it does not yet understand/know.. the experience/exploration of that which is not yet included in the individual's mindscape adds information about that which is not yet known/understood, it is another function of mind to fit the information into that mindscape so as to form a relationship/connectedness with that which was not yet known/understood.. Mind is the interface.. it is using language and intelligence to establish a relationship/connectedness as we interact through this forum, what was unknown, not yet existent, is being made known through the mind's functions/interface.. mind explores 'isness', that which is manifested into reality, and.. mind can imagine and create imagery/illusions 'about' that which it interacts with, and, mind can dismantle/let-go of beliefs and illusions, too.. mind is your portal/interface to your relationship with 'what you are'.. with the mind still and silent, that which you are is clear and without distortion.. "All that appears" is a functional expression that allows for what is seen/experienced to reveal itself in greater clarity. or.. it can also be distorted by belief about and attachment to the appearance.. sometimes though, "all that appears" is used to create the illusion that 'that which is', is not real, that what is experienced is imagined or an illusion itself, but that is a 'belief about' what is experienced.. Be well.. Hi tzu, Yes. Whats the difference between resonance and belief? It seems like resonance requires no belief. amit |
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Post by amit on Jun 8, 2013 23:51:22 GMT -5
Hi steve, Ok thats why I'm posting. In your opinion there is some trying going on? Why do you come to that conclusion and even if there was are you saying there is something wrong with trying? If so why is there something wrong with trying? amit "Try not. Do." -- Yoda Hi beingist, Do you have a problem with trying? amit |
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Post by Beingist on Jun 9, 2013 0:04:12 GMT -5
Hi beingist, Do you have a problem with trying? amit No. |
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Post by tzujanli on Jun 9, 2013 0:09:07 GMT -5
Greetings.. Greetings.. The function is not separate from 'that', and 'is' that.. the reference to function/mind indicates its role as interface/catalyst between that which is separate from the individual's understanding/knowing and the individual's experience/exploration of that which it does not yet understand/know.. the experience/exploration of that which is not yet included in the individual's mindscape adds information about that which is not yet known/understood, it is another function of mind to fit the information into that mindscape so as to form a relationship/connectedness with that which was not yet known/understood.. Mind is the interface.. it is using language and intelligence to establish a relationship/connectedness as we interact through this forum, what was unknown, not yet existent, is being made known through the mind's functions/interface.. mind explores 'isness', that which is manifested into reality, and.. mind can imagine and create imagery/illusions 'about' that which it interacts with, and, mind can dismantle/let-go of beliefs and illusions, too.. mind is your portal/interface to your relationship with 'what you are'.. with the mind still and silent, that which you are is clear and without distortion.. "All that appears" is a functional expression that allows for what is seen/experienced to reveal itself in greater clarity. or.. it can also be distorted by belief about and attachment to the appearance.. sometimes though, "all that appears" is used to create the illusion that 'that which is', is not real, that what is experienced is imagined or an illusion itself, but that is a 'belief about' what is experienced.. Be well.. Hi tzu, Yes. Whats the difference between resonance and belief? It seems like resonance requires no belief. amit Thanks.. as i understand it, 'belief' is an attachment to an idea/thought/opinion 'about' what 'is'.. resonance is a 'feeling', a form of interaction at the fundamental energetic level of existence.. maybe, 'resonance' depends on certain language conventions for a common understanding/communication, but.. i can deny resonance exists as a form of sensory input, but it will continue to inform me at levels i might not be aware of, or i'm not yet willing to acknowledge.. resonance, as energetic relationships, is not dependent on belief for its existence.. Be well.. |
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Post by amit on Jun 9, 2013 2:45:19 GMT -5
Greetings.. Hi tzu, Yes. Whats the difference between resonance and belief? It seems like resonance requires no belief. amit Thanks.. as i understand it, 'belief' is an attachment to an idea/thought/opinion 'about' what 'is'.. resonance is a 'feeling', a form of interaction at the fundamental energetic level of existence.. maybe, 'resonance' depends on certain language conventions for a common understanding/communication, but.. i can deny resonance exists as a form of sensory input, but it will continue to inform me at levels i might not be aware of, or i'm not yet willing to acknowledge.. resonance, as energetic relationships, is not dependent on belief for its existence.. Be well.. Hi tzu; Thanks. Resonance feels like Unconditional Love because it requires no conditions to be met before it happens. It makes no distinctions nor discriminates based on truth, a belief in truth, or any other considerations. It simply happens or not. What do you resonate with? amit |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2013 3:06:33 GMT -5
Greetings.. Hi tzu, Yes. Whats the difference between resonance and belief? It seems like resonance requires no belief. amit Thanks.. as i understand it, 'belief' is an attachment to an idea/thought/opinion 'about' what 'is'.. resonance is a 'feeling', a form of interaction at the fundamental energetic level of existence.. maybe, 'resonance' depends on certain language conventions for a common understanding/communication, but.. i can deny resonance exists as a form of sensory input, but it will continue to inform me at levels i might not be aware of, or i'm not yet willing to acknowledge.. resonance, as energetic relationships, is not dependent on belief for its existence.. Be well.. Man TZU....all that sounded really complicated....are you willing to try on the possibility that you really don't know for sure that any of what you posted there is true? Can you let go of the desire to know if its true or not, and just say "I don't know", and be comfortable with that? Peace be unto you |
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Post by Reefs on Jun 9, 2013 3:14:03 GMT -5
Dear Dude/Dudette, The old Tath is back, yay!  Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2013 4:06:28 GMT -5
Dear Dude/Dudette, The old Tath is back, yay! Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize Hi Blue, how are You, Thatnk you for the kind welcome.....is there any chance that you were finally able to get around to answering some of the questions I had? You know, that stuff we usually talk about at this DISCUSSION forum about speeeerachul stuff? Peace Be unto you. |
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Post by Reefs on Jun 9, 2013 4:34:47 GMT -5
Dear Dude/Dudette, The old Tath is back, yay! Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize Hi Blue, how are You, Thatnk you for the kind welcome.....is there any chance that you were finally able to get around to answering some of the questions I had? You know, that stuff we usually talk about at this DISCUSSION forum about speeeerachul stuff? Peace Be unto you. Dear Dude/Dudette, I've already forgot about that. We will see (pun intended). I suggest you chase Tzu and Enigma around the block for a couple of months first. I must say I prefer the old Tath style over this born-again style anytime. However, things have changed a little around here, you should keep 2 things in mind if you want to last a little longer here: 1) DO NOT DO name calling 2) DO NOT DO crusades Enjoy your stay!  Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize |
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Post by topology on Jun 9, 2013 11:12:25 GMT -5
Hi Blue, how are You, Thatnk you for the kind welcome.....is there any chance that you were finally able to get around to answering some of the questions I had? You know, that stuff we usually talk about at this DISCUSSION forum about speeeerachul stuff? Peace Be unto you. Dear Dude/Dudette, I've already forgot about that. We will see (pun intended). I suggest you chase Tzu and Enigma around the block for a couple of months first. I must say I prefer the old Tath style over this born-again style anytime. However, things have changed a little around here, you should keep 2 things in mind if you want to last a little longer here: 1) DO NOT DO name calling 2) DO NOT DO crusades Enjoy your stay! Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize What's this, a focus on style over content? Welcome to the style mafia. |
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Post by tzujanli on Jun 9, 2013 12:26:48 GMT -5
Greetings.. Greetings.. Thanks.. as i understand it, 'belief' is an attachment to an idea/thought/opinion 'about' what 'is'.. resonance is a 'feeling', a form of interaction at the fundamental energetic level of existence.. maybe, 'resonance' depends on certain language conventions for a common understanding/communication, but.. i can deny resonance exists as a form of sensory input, but it will continue to inform me at levels i might not be aware of, or i'm not yet willing to acknowledge.. resonance, as energetic relationships, is not dependent on belief for its existence.. Be well.. Man TZU....all that sounded really complicated....are you willing to try on the possibility that you really don't know for sure that any of what you posted there is true? Can you let go of the desire to know if its true or not, and just say "I don't know", and be comfortable with that? Peace be unto you I humbly direct your attention to the text that appears at the bottom of my posts.. i'm sharing my understandings, not claiming ultimate truths.. if you've been reading my posts you'll notice my only suggestion for others is to 'see clearly', and i recommend that dropping all beliefs and knowings is likely to assist in the 'seeing clearly' process.. i don't 'know', i understand.. understanding is subject to change, knowing is fixed.. and i am comfortable with that.. Be well.. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2013 12:42:50 GMT -5
Greetings.. Man TZU....all that sounded really complicated....are you willing to try on the possibility that you really don't know for sure that any of what you posted there is true? Can you let go of the desire to know if its true or not, and just say "I don't know", and be comfortable with that? Peace be unto you I humbly direct your attention to the text that appears at the bottom of my posts.. i'm sharing my understandings, not claiming ultimate truths.. if you've been reading my posts you'll notice my only suggestion for others is to 'see clearly', and i recommend that dropping all beliefs and knowings is likely to assist in the 'seeing clearly' process.. i don't 'know', i understand.. understanding is subject to change, knowing is fixed.. and i am comfortable with that.. Be well.. :-) I love you like a fat kid lives cake right now lol |
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