Miscellaneous Trivedi Enthusiasts

[kapilsharma]

Jun 7, 2013 12:50:31 GMT -5 topology said:

Jun 7, 2013 2:55:43 GMT -5 kapilsharma said:

Mahendra Trivedi blessing result on Alphonso Mango

It is a suggestive picture, but pictures can be staged (faked). Is there an academic paper published associated with this picture?



Yes i can provide you the official document link
trivedimasterwellness.com/2012docs/mango-report-image.jpg

www.trivediscience.com/agriculture/horticulture/dapoli-mango-project/

[kapilsharma]

Jun 7, 2013 16:46:24 GMT -5 @wren said:

www.personal.psu.edu/tms9/trivedi.html

Don't publish fake content URL for publicity. If a man do better for other obviously people who oppose him increases.

[Deleted]

Jun 8, 2013 0:55:53 GMT -5 kapilsharma said:

Jun 7, 2013 16:46:24 GMT -5 @wren said:

www.personal.psu.edu/tms9/trivedi.html

Don't publish fake content URL for publicity. If a man do better for other obviously people who oppose him increases.

Don't ever, tell me what to do.

[Reefs]

Jun 7, 2013 16:46:24 GMT -5 @wren said:

www.personal.psu.edu/tms9/trivedi.html

Dear Dude/Dudette,

Interesting link. This part here caught my attention:

Physiological Data

When he arrived at our office, he was reportedly drinking 17 liters of water a day and rarely using the bathroom [we did not count the liters: his chelas (followers) reported this to us; we did note he did not often use a bathroom]. According to his followers, this was an improvement over the 30 liters/day he used to consume! We observed that he often visibly perspired on his forehead and wiped his forehead often or the water literally ran down his face. He constantly cleared his throat, as if chronically congested, and his voice was often gruff as if choked with phlegm.

His followers said he never slept – I observed his eyes were often bloodshot, yet he did not seem tired. Supposedly his physiological parameters were astounding: he should be in a diabetic coma or dead and yet he was not! His pituitary was the size of an egg! We had no way to confirm the medical data about Trivedi, but based upon his unusual water consumption alone, there seemed to be something physiologically different about him.

This seems to have something to do with what A-H were saying. Since we are in the marketing section, I'll post a few more longer quotes:

There are many situations where your physical chemistry gets out of whack. You are like a chemical factory and what you are giving your attention to causes you to emit these radio signals or vibrations and that is the essence behind all of this manufacturing. When you are in vibrational harmony, your body produces whatever it needs to remain in perfect balance.
What physical Beings would call perfect balance and what your physical body would actually call perfect balance are often not even close to the same thing. You do strange things with your body. An absolute natural body is one that rests often—not slumbers. Your body does not need sleep. You sleep for alignment of Energies. In other words, you can rest when you are sitting down.

If you were an absolutely natural Being, you would rest, you would move. You would move your bodies a lot more than most of you do. You would drink a lot more water than most of you do. You would eat much less food than most of you do. You would eat much more natural food. You would be driven by the desire for fuel and physical Energy producing foods rather than things that taste good. But since most of you have not learned to follow your impulse, most of you are doing things more by the clock than by your natural inclination: “You should go to bed at a certain time and you should get up at a certain time and we all need our rest.”

A natural schedule is unsettling to most of you. You work these strange hours where, for long periods of time, you demand concentration and you don’t allow yourselves to go the bathroom or consume as much liquid during those times as you really naturally would if you were more free. If you were more free, you’d work for a little while. You’d be more like our friend who would give your utter attention to something, and when you’d reached your fill on that subject, you’d sort of just zone out and regroup.

But most of you do not allow yourself this naturalness. You put yourself in these very stringent conditions where you, from the outside, try to guide yourself. And then you say, as you go to the doctor, “I’m having this unnatural experience.” (i.e. illness)

If Esther were to go to a physician and have her Energy monitored or her blood level monitored or even her heart rate monitored, they would be very worried about her because as the Energy flows through her that we know is the condensation of Abraham Energy, her body is adjusting in very different ways than a normal human body.

If you went to the doctor every fifteen minutes they’d find all sorts of things out of whack in your body because your body is constantly escalating from balance to imbalance from balance to imbalance from balance to imbalance. In other words, you’re constantly finding your balance. And right when you get out there on the edge of imbalance and then your body... All the resources of your body are coming into play to bring you back into balance. If you go for an examination while you’re out there on that edge, you’ll be off the chart on some of those things. Where if you’ve gone the next day once your body has brought you back into balance, you’d say, “Ah, all is well.” And how is it that you find that rendezvous point? It has to do with what you’re giving your attention to.

Abraham-Hicks, Boston Workshop, 10/20/1996

First, we want to explain to you the benefit of sleep. It isn’t’ about resting, because you are resting even as here you are sitting on these chairs. The benefit of sleep is that you withdraw your Consciousness from this physical realm, and when you withdraw your Consciousness, you withdraw any pushing against or resistance. And when there is no resistance, then your body is able to align to its higher vibration. And so, slumber is more about aligning vibration than anything.
So it stands to reason that one who is more connected to the nonphysical energy stream would require less sleep or would want less sleep.

You see, when you slumber and your Consciousness withdraws, even though your Energies are being aligned, your body is not receiving movement and your body really thrives with movement. Any of you who become sedentary, and your society sort of does that to you as you work eight hours or... But your body is really a body of motion. Your body is an organism that wants to move.

There are three things that we would do that most of you don’t do. We would drink enormous quantities of water. So much water that in the beginning we would find ourselves uncomfortable because the elimination process would be a bit hindering. But we really would. We would drink lots and lots and lots of water. Your capacity to hold more water will grow as you consume more water, and so the elimination process would not be so uncomfortable and every cell of your body, which is mostly water, would benefit. Because the Energy transmission of your body is affected. The more water you drink the more easily the Energy flows.

And so, there are lots of things that you could eat but the one thing that we really encourage is more water, and we mean water minus preservatives, water minus caffeine, water without sugars. We mean water. We really do. We mean water. Water with minerals, water with all of the natural stuff that is in water. We would drink water and we would find a Source of it that is pure without too much dealing with. In other words, if you can find water that is water, that’s what we would drink. Water.
The other thing that we would do is, that we would move our bodies intentionally. We would find reason to move. And by moving, we don’t mean dramatic exercise. We mean moving. We mean motion. We mean walking, mostly. Moving the body. Moving the arms. Flexing the muscles. Stretching the muscles. Movement.

And the third thing that we would do is, that we would rest when we are tired and we would awaken when were refreshed. In other words, we would try to follow a more natural rhythm. Now, that’s hard to do under the work environment that many of you live, but we would sleep shorter snatches more frequently. We would take a little nap on the lunch hour if we could and we snatch a little nap after work if we could. And we’d sleep a shorter expanse in the middle of the night. We would not sleep longer than four hours at any stretch. Only because the body benefits so much by motion.
For most, that’s going to be a difficult acclimation. Because you’ve trained yourself to believe that you need eight hours of sleep.

Abraham-Hicks, Spokane Workshop – 6/14/1997

A good way to approach your body: See it as a manufacturing plant. And you are bringing it all kinds of raw materials, and it is so sophisticated in its ability to utilize those raw materials, that it can pretty much derive whatever it is wanting. That is one of the reasons that, what the physicians call, a balanced diet is of value. Because if you are giving enough balance to your body, it can get what it needs from it.

In other words, your body is primarily water. And so, the more water you consume, the happier the cells of your body are. Everything about your body works better if you are drinking more water. And aside from that, your body can pretty much deal with whatever.

Abraham-Hicks, Salt Lake City Workshop — 9/9/2000

Sincerely,
The Great Blue Hole Of Belize

[topology]

Jun 8, 2013 0:55:53 GMT -5 kapilsharma said:

Jun 7, 2013 16:46:24 GMT -5 @wren said:

www.personal.psu.edu/tms9/trivedi.html

Don't publish fake content URL for publicity. If a man do better for other obviously people who oppose him increases.

Kapilsharma,

The URL is not fake. It's being hosted by a server on the Penn State University which lends tremendous integrity to the author actually being a Dr. This was an attempt at reproducibility of the claimed experimental results. If the experiments are not reproducible then they prove nothing and cannot help others.

I think it's time to admit your own biases Kapilsharma. You are simply a cog in the tremendous advertising machine surrounding Trevedi. It's focus is on a man, it's all about pumping his image up so that those who seek a guru will get duped into lending their energy, time and money into maintaining his image in the world. It's all Ego, and you are feeding it.

[topology]

Jun 8, 2013 0:50:10 GMT -5 kapilsharma said:

Jun 7, 2013 12:50:31 GMT -5 topology said:

It is a suggestive picture, but pictures can be staged (faked). Is there an academic paper published associated with this picture?



Yes i can provide you the official document link
trivedimasterwellness.com/2012docs/mango-report-image.jpg

www.trivediscience.com/agriculture/horticulture/dapoli-mango-project/

Kapilsharma,

That is not an academic study, that is a marketing page that has no scrutiny or controls to indicate any kind of real scientific investigation into what is happening, if anything.

If you want to be successful in marketing your guru to the skeptical western mind, it's not going to be done by dressing yourself up in the image of what looks like could be a us marine, it will be done through demonstrating that skeptical inquiry has been applied. Actual scientific studies which try to disprove the claims through alternate explanations. If there are no other explanations, and if the experiments are reproducible, then we can start talking about there being a real Trevedi effect. Until then, the over marketing of the man and pumped up image feels like a ploy to siphon dollars out of my empty wallet.

[Reefs]

Jun 8, 2013 7:52:48 GMT -5 topology said:

Jun 8, 2013 0:50:10 GMT -5 kapilsharma said:

Kapilsharma,

That is not an academic study, that is a marketing page that has no scrutiny or controls to indicate any kind of real scientific investigation into what is happening, if anything.

If you want to be successful in marketing your guru to the skeptical western mind, it's not going to be done by dressing yourself up in the image of what looks like could be a us marine, it will be done through demonstrating that skeptical inquiry has been applied. Actual scientific studies which try to disprove the claims through alternate explanations. If there are no other explanations, and if the experiments are reproducible, then we can start talking about there being a real Trevedi effect. Until then, the over marketing of the man and pumped up image feels like a ploy to siphon dollars out of my empty wallet.

Dear Dude/Dudette,

Is that all you can see here, marketing campaign? Scientific studies get faked too, you know...



Sincerely,
The Great Blue Hole Of Belize

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Jun 8, 2013 4:37:20 GMT -5 Reefs said:

Jun 7, 2013 16:46:24 GMT -5 @wren said:

www.personal.psu.edu/tms9/trivedi.html

Dear Dude/Dudette,

Interesting link. This part here caught my attention:


Sincerely,
The Great Blue Hole Of Belize

Yeah thanx for all that. I didn't notice what you saw. I was more interested in the reversal of an apparent disease in the mango. I get easily that disease can be rid from trees in non-pharmaceutical ways. Though to turn an already infected fruit into a healthy, edible fruit, through transmission alone, doesn't as yet, seem possible.

[Reefs]

Jun 8, 2013 13:50:18 GMT -5 @wren said:

Jun 8, 2013 4:37:20 GMT -5 Reefs said:

Dear Dude/Dudette,

Interesting link. This part here caught my attention:


Sincerely,
The Great Blue Hole Of Belize

Yeah thanx for all that. I didn't notice what you saw. I was more interested in the reversal of an apparent disease in the mango. I get easily that disease can be rid from trees in non-pharmaceutical ways. Though to turn an already infected fruit into a healthy, edible fruit, through transmission alone, doesn't as yet, seem possible.

Dear Dude/Dudette,

This 'scientific' study you linked has some major flaws. Some flaws are due to the scientific mindset itself, some flaws due to test arrangements/equipment. If I'm in the mood, I'll go thru the entire report step by step and put it into a LOA perspective. That could be a bridge between the Trivedi world and the scientific world. I'm not trying to save Trivedi here, but Tops blind belief in everything 'scientific/academic' and 'Dr/PhD of University blah blah blah' is not really different from what he is the Trivedi fans accusing of doing. There are some odd things about Trivedi too, the spamming of forums is the most obvious one.


Sincerely,
The Great Blue Hole Of Belize

[topology]

Jun 10, 2013 1:07:05 GMT -5 Reefs said:

Jun 8, 2013 13:50:18 GMT -5 @wren said:

Yeah thanx for all that. I didn't notice what you saw. I was more interested in the reversal of an apparent disease in the mango. I get easily that disease can be rid from trees in non-pharmaceutical ways. Though to turn an already infected fruit into a healthy, edible fruit, through transmission alone, doesn't as yet, seem possible.

Dear Dude/Dudette,

This 'scientific' study you linked has some major flaws. Some flaws are due to the scientific mindset itself, some flaws due to test arrangements/equipment. If I'm in the mood, I'll go thru the entire report step by step and put it into a LOA perspective. That could be a bridge between the Trivedi world and the scientific world. I'm not trying to save Trivedi here, but Tops blind belief in everything 'scientific/academic' and 'Dr/PhD of University blah blah blah' is not really different from what he is the Trivedi fans accusing of doing. There are some odd things about Trivedi too, the spamming of forums is the most obvious one.


Sincerely,
The Great Blue Hole Of Belize

You are assuming I have blind belief. I am an energy practitioner mysel and have expressed that science at large has its own confirmation bias at play in refusal to openly investigate purely subjective phenomena, but that's probably a detail you failed to take into account in forming your critical response to me. Do a google search on "Trivedi Scam". When the top results are Trevedi Accolytes posting about how Trevidi is not a scam and truly works and the pages are all similarly structured, there is a Spin Doctor that is trying to maintain a shiny glossy perfect image. The marketing impression comes not from the posts here but from having googled Trevedi and seen the FUD.

[kapilsharma]

Another Miracle By Mahendra Trivedi

Cancer is Curable Now with Trivedi Science

Analysts at the California Pacific Medical Center Research Institute performed their exploration to test Mr. Mahendra Trivedi Energy Transformation on Cancerous units & imparted the outcomes of a notable study on harmful units. These effects backing the speculation that the Energy transmitted by Mahendra Trivedi holds characteristic knowledge which is equipped for recognizing the necessities of distinctive units and giving the organic entity precisely what it needs with a specific end goal to keep vivified sound cerebrum units.
www.trivediscience.com

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Jun 11, 2013 4:55:43 GMT -5 kapilsharma said:

Another Miracle By Mahendra Trivedi

Cancer is Curable Now with Trivedi Science

Analysts at the California Pacific Medical Center Research Institute performed their exploration to test Mr. Mahendra Trivedi Energy Transformation on Cancerous units & imparted the outcomes of a notable study on harmful units. These effects backing the speculation that the Energy transmitted by Mahendra Trivedi holds characteristic knowledge which is equipped for recognizing the necessities of distinctive units and giving the organic entity precisely what it needs with a specific end goal to keep vivified sound cerebrum units.
www.trivediscience.com

snakeoil

[topology]

Jun 11, 2013 4:55:43 GMT -5 kapilsharma said:

Another Miracle By Mahendra Trivedi

Cancer is Curable Now with Trivedi Science

Analysts at the California Pacific Medical Center Research Institute performed their exploration to test Mr. Mahendra Trivedi Energy Transformation on Cancerous units & imparted the outcomes of a notable study on harmful units. These effects backing the speculation that the Energy transmitted by Mahendra Trivedi holds characteristic knowledge which is equipped for recognizing the necessities of distinctive units and giving the organic entity precisely what it needs with a specific end goal to keep vivified sound cerebrum units.
www.trivediscience.com

Please provide a link to a published paper written by the California based research institute.

[Peter]

That was that one that I checked out when kapilsharma first arrived - here. But what the California based research institute ACTUALLY published was this:

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22732075

RESULTS: A trend of decreasing cell viability with increasing biofield dose was evident in the first set of experiments assessing dose-response; however, no such effect was evident in the second set of experiments evaluating biofield treatment distance. Mock experiments yielded relatively stable viability ratios in both sets of experiments. Linear regression analysis and hypothesis testing of the data taken as a whole did not yield statistical significance at p<0.05.

CONCLUSIONS: These results represent the first indication of a biofield treatment dose-response in a controlled laboratory setting. The data are inconclusive because of the inability of reproduce the cellular response in a replicate experiment.

Jun 8, 2013 0:55:53 GMT -5 kapilsharma said:

Jun 7, 2013 16:46:24 GMT -5 @wren said:

www.personal.psu.edu/tms9/trivedi.html

Don't publish fake content URL for publicity. If a man do better for other obviously people who oppose him increases.

Kapilsharma, what leads you to believe that this content is fake?

[kapilsharma]

Hello guys,
I have founded 1 interesting links that shows you all the experience of the people after attending the transmission session by MAHENDRA TRIVEDI.

Go through it and let me if you have any query regarding it.

triveditestimonials.com/