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Post by Jasun on May 16, 2012 12:03:07 GMT -5
No, it's the opposite. I'm addressing the separation implied by the body having it's own wants and needs apart from mind. The suggestion that the mind exists as anything other than a function of the body already requires a degree of separation. At least, that was what I was trying to get at in the OP. Simply put: "body" refers to a perceivable "objective" reality; "mind" only refers to a process we call thinking, which so far as we know, may originate in the body exactly as breathing or farting does.
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Post by living on May 16, 2012 12:05:40 GMT -5
No, it's the opposite. I'm addressing the separation implied by the body having it's own wants and needs apart from mind. The suggestion that the mind exists as anything other than a function of the body already requires a degree of separation. At least, that was what I was trying to get at in the OP. Simply put: "body" refers to a perceivable "objective" reality; "mind" only refers to a process we call thinking, which so far as we know, may originate in the body exactly as breathing or farting does. Exactly! The body exists to support the mind. Have a great day, Jasun!
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Post by arisha on May 16, 2012 13:54:42 GMT -5
The whole body is like a branch piece of the head where the brain lives.
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Post by living on May 16, 2012 14:24:20 GMT -5
The whole body is like a branch piece of the head where the brain lives. Works for me.
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Post by Jasun on May 16, 2012 14:36:00 GMT -5
That was a joke, right?
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Post by living on May 16, 2012 14:43:05 GMT -5
That was a joke, right? No, not really. The brain is like the receiver in the field, too. Without the brain the body couldn't function very well.
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Post by Jasun on May 16, 2012 14:43:55 GMT -5
It occurred to me last night that whole notion of a self separate from the body may arise from the basic fact that four of our five senses are located in the head. This creates a "perceptual bias" in which the organism becomes "top-heavy" so to speak and we begin to experience a perceiving self (head) that is separate from the body.
I wonder if this imbalance really kicked in when man learned to walk upright? (Norman O. Brown suggested something of the sort.) Maybe that coincided with the inception of thought, which arose out of necessity when instincts became insufficiently nuanced to navigate the spectrum of possibilities. (Eg when self-preservation instinct was equally opposed by procreative instinct and the organism had to "decide" between the two.)
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2012 14:49:19 GMT -5
That was a joke, right? No, not really. The brain is like the receiver in the field, too. Without the brain the body couldn't function very well. gee willikers i always thought the brain was part of the body.
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Post by living on May 16, 2012 14:55:00 GMT -5
It occurred to me last night that whole notion of a self separate from the body may arise from the basic fact that four of our five senses are located in the head. This creates a "perceptual bias" in which the organism becomes "top-heavy" so to speak and we begin to experience a perceiving self (head) that is separate from the body. I see this phenomenon a lot around here. I wonder if this imbalance really kicked in when man learned to walk upright? (Norman O. Brown suggested something of the sort.) Maybe that coincided with the inception of thought, which arose out of necessity when instincts became insufficiently nuanced to navigate the spectrum of possibilities. (Eg when self-preservation instinct was equally opposed by procreative instinct and the organism had to "decide" between the two.) Yes, probably had something to do with the reptilian brain. I know Krishnamurti says we have to use thought to survive in the world (ie: making a shopping list, evaluate the roof needing to be reshingled, gas the car, find the shortest route to Chicago, etc., but other than that, it needs to take a step back.) Being awake is a very physiological event. Wholly integrated.
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Post by living on May 16, 2012 14:56:52 GMT -5
No, not really. The brain is like the receiver in the field, too. Without the brain the body couldn't function very well. gee willikers i always thought the brain was part of the body. It is. I didn't write anything about separating it from the body.
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Post by sharon on May 16, 2012 15:00:51 GMT -5
No, not really. The brain is like the receiver in the field, too. Without the brain the body couldn't function very well. gee willikers i always thought the brain was part of the body. The heart has neural connections in it as well. Did ya feel ya chest then, did ya, did ya?
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2012 15:01:16 GMT -5
gee willikers i always thought the brain was part of the body. It is. I didn't write anything about separating it from the body. phew! i was cornfuzed cuz it sounded like the brain was somethin separate living inside the body. onward.
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Post by Jasun on May 16, 2012 15:05:56 GMT -5
Perhaps the brain's being situated in the head has to do with its function as a "descrambler" of sensory information?
The heart and intestines have their own neural networks; no doubt it all relates to the chakra system. Maybe our putting so much emphasis on the brain/thought and so little on heart/feeling and gut/instinct is similar to having higher centers activated without the lower? We end up living inside a conceptual model of reality - a super-complex thought form or "bardo realm."
Just THINKING (ha) out loud here. Please disregard the high concepts. I am proving my own point, i fear.
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Post by living on May 16, 2012 15:07:08 GMT -5
gee willikers i always thought the brain was part of the body. The heart has neural connections in it as well. Did ya feel ya chest then, did ya, did ya? His mind got in the way. Happens to me, too.
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Post by sharon on May 16, 2012 15:12:39 GMT -5
Our hands and feet can breathe as well. Did ya feel ya feet? Did ya did ya?
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