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Post by Reefs on Mar 7, 2013 0:29:13 GMT -5
Your views are of no interest for me anymore. Just one more religious type faith. I cannot break the rules which don't exist yet. When they are made everybody will have to follow them not to be banned. Think again, Arisha. You appear to find other people's posts as your responsibility because you are acting as if you have a duty to do something about them, to stop them happening in the way that they are happening.
Warning is as follows: Please stop trying to make other people turn into something you find acceptable. You may not "Go on a Crusade" on this forum.
In terms of the posts where you criticise other members by name, your opinions are now known by most everyone here and continuing to say the same thing over and over again amounts to spamming - ie not acceptable. But yes, in so much as I am coming up with what "my rules" are, I think "No Crusades" would be one I'm willing to paint on a big sign and hang over the door.
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Post by Beingist on Mar 7, 2013 0:30:05 GMT -5
But, the only ones who seem to have any complaints are the non-non-dualists. Would you suggest that they write the 'rules'? If so, what would keep the place from devolving into a non-non-dualist forum? Doesn't sound very equanimous to me, and so not really all that spiritual. I have no idea who could make the rules for this forum. I don't know why you are talking about its devolving into a non-non-dualist forum. Only because you're talking about this forum as a non-dualist forum.
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Post by enigma on Mar 7, 2013 0:33:54 GMT -5
How does that idea relate to this discussion? Do you mean to say I've said something bad or wrong? Only if you think I have. I don't know. That's why I asked. You posted it in this discussion. You must have meant to say something with it.
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Post by silver on Mar 7, 2013 0:35:17 GMT -5
Only if you think I have. I don't know. That's why I asked. You posted it in this discussion. You must have meant to say something with it. It was pretty straightforward...
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Post by enigma on Mar 7, 2013 0:45:38 GMT -5
She means to imply that those who don't share the interest in nonduality are mistreated, and yet the perps are not punished, which seems to imply that such behavior is sanctioned and should therefore be clarified in the forum rules. Something like : "Nondualists are hereby given fair warning that we don't cotton to such beliefs round here and y'all best be movin along now." As we know, most peeps with a nondual focus don't give a figgy one way or the other about various belief systems, which is why Arisha can't start a 'there is no oneness' discussion to save her life. Besides, the conflicts here have little or nothing to do with differences in beliefs, and are all about style.Actually even that is doubtful. Top had a VERY different style and Arisha didn't care. Same rant. The way I see it, what she's doing here is just unrestricted venting, her way of coping with her offline life frustrations. Similar to Silver. In offline life she's a victim of MrG who punishes her with pain. In online life she can play out the MrG scenario in reverse. She can do the punishing of - in her perception - MrG-like characters like Top, E&R... So, E&R and Top are just some kind of virtual voodoo dolls to her. The difference to Silver is that Silver has at least some basic manners and knows when to stop because forums are some kind of lifeline for her so she will do anything to not get banned or lose support. Arisha doesn't really care because she's not here to get attention or support. Arisha's MrG scenario is going on since more than 20 years. Silver's scenario for about 3 years. So there's much more momentum at work with Arisha than with Silver. Well, yeah, it's true it's not really about style problems. That's just the form the negativity expresses. Something imagined that folks can get angry about. I don't really know what's going on, but what you say sounds about right.
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Post by arisha on Mar 7, 2013 1:10:42 GMT -5
I have no idea who could make the rules for this forum. I don't know why you are talking about its devolving into a non-non-dualist forum. Only because you're talking about this forum as a non-dualist forum. It is not important for me if it is a non-dualist or non-non-dualist forum... What is important is to be able to discuss topics on spirituality, and to know exactly what the rules are. People mustn't be mistreated because of their views. This is what is the most important for ANY forums. Make the rules, so that people can know if they can share all views - or only specific non-dualist views .
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Post by silence on Mar 7, 2013 1:19:51 GMT -5
Actually even that is doubtful. Top had a VERY different style and Arisha didn't care. Same rant. The way I see it, what she's doing here is just unrestricted venting, her way of coping with her offline life frustrations. Similar to Silver. In offline life she's a victim of MrG who punishes her with pain. In online life she can play out the MrG scenario in reverse. She can do the punishing of - in her perception - MrG-like characters like Top, E&R... So, E&R and Top are just some kind of virtual voodoo dolls to her. Yea, that's pretty much my sense as well.
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Post by arisha on Mar 7, 2013 1:48:02 GMT -5
I am saying about the strict forum rules WHICH CLARIFY THE POLICY ABOUT NON-NON-DUALISTS. The rules Beingist said about. We don't have such rules here.
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Post by Reefs on Mar 7, 2013 2:02:57 GMT -5
I am saying about the strict forum rules WHICH CLARIFY THE POLICY ABOUT NON-NON-DUALISTS. The rules Beingist said about. We don't have such rules here. There is no 'policy' except that "anything related to spiritual stuff" is allowed as Peter said here
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Post by tzujanli on Mar 7, 2013 6:43:53 GMT -5
Actually even that is doubtful. Top had a VERY different style and Arisha didn't care. Same rant. The way I see it, what she's doing here is just unrestricted venting, her way of coping with her offline life frustrations. Similar to Silver. In offline life she's a victim of MrG who punishes her with pain. In online life she can play out the MrG scenario in reverse. She can do the punishing of - in her perception - MrG-like characters like Top, E&R... So, E&R and Top are just some kind of virtual voodoo dolls to her. The difference to Silver is that Silver has at least some basic manners and knows when to stop because forums are some kind of lifeline for her so she will do anything to not get banned or lose support. Arisha doesn't really care because she's not here to get attention or support. Arisha's MrG scenario is going on since more than 20 years. Silver's scenario for about 3 years. So there's much more momentum at work with Arisha than with Silver. Well, yeah, it's true it's not really about style problems. That's just the form the negativity expresses. Something imagined that folks can get angry about. I don't really know what's going on, but what you say sounds about right. The issue is that you refuse to be aware of your own negativity.. you refuse to be aware that you imagine all sorts of bad, yes bad things that others are doing to you because you relentlessly and provocatively preach your imaginary beliefs 'at' people.. people would appreciate decent, open, honest and respectful discussions about spirituality.. as opposed to the E-Team's telling them what must be believed and how wrong it is not disagree with the E-Team, and that is a non-imagined account of the E-Team's stealth negativity.. Be well..
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Post by Beingist on Mar 7, 2013 8:46:34 GMT -5
Only because you're talking about this forum as a non-dualist forum. It is not important for me if it is a non-dualist or non-non-dualist forum... Then why start a thread about how the need for rules, in order to protect, somehow, those who are not non-dualists?
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Post by enigma on Mar 7, 2013 12:29:26 GMT -5
Well, yeah, it's true it's not really about style problems. That's just the form the negativity expresses. Something imagined that folks can get angry about. I don't really know what's going on, but what you say sounds about right. The issue is that you refuse to be aware of your own negativity.. you refuse to be aware that you imagine all sorts of bad, yes bad things that others are doing to you because you relentlessly and provocatively preach your imaginary beliefs 'at' people.. people would appreciate decent, open, honest and respectful discussions about spirituality.. as opposed to the E-Team's telling them what must be believed and how wrong it is not disagree with the E-Team, and that is a non-imagined account of the E-Team's stealth negativity.. Be well.. What beliefs do I preach relentlessly? Do you even know?
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Post by tzujanli on Mar 7, 2013 21:54:09 GMT -5
Greetings.. The issue is that you refuse to be aware of your own negativity.. you refuse to be aware that you imagine all sorts of bad, yes bad things that others are doing to you because you relentlessly and provocatively preach your imaginary beliefs 'at' people.. people would appreciate decent, open, honest and respectful discussions about spirituality.. as opposed to the E-Team's telling them what must be believed and how wrong it is not disagree with the E-Team, and that is a non-imagined account of the E-Team's stealth negativity.. Be well.. What beliefs do I preach relentlessly? Do you even know?Yes, i know.. but, rather than distract from the issues by giving your beliefs more air-time.. why don't you actually address the E-Team's tactics as cause for conflict on this forum? Why don't you refrain from intentionally provoking conflict? Why do you you suppose that your tactics have any redemptive qualities, aside from your own self-inflated image?.. Be well..
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Post by enigma on Mar 7, 2013 22:06:11 GMT -5
Greetings.. What beliefs do I preach relentlessly? Do you even know? Yes, i know.. but, rather than distract from the issues by giving your beliefs more air-time.. why don't you actually address the E-Team's tactics as cause for conflict on this forum? Why don't you refrain from intentionally provoking conflict? Why do you you suppose that your tactics have any redemptive qualities, aside from your own self-inflated image?.. Be well.. I can't address tactics and E-teams because there are no such things, but since you think there are beliefs being preached relentlessly, and apparently feel that this preaching is cause for conflict, I'm asking you to talk about these beliefs and why they are so troublesome to others.
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Post by silver on Mar 7, 2013 22:39:26 GMT -5
She means to imply that those who don't share the interest in nonduality are mistreated, and yet the perps are not punished, which seems to imply that such behavior is sanctioned and should therefore be clarified in the forum rules. Something like : "Nondualists are hereby given fair warning that we don't cotton to such beliefs round here and y'all best be movin along now." As we know, most peeps with a nondual focus don't give a figgy one way or the other about various belief systems, which is why Arisha can't start a 'there is no oneness' discussion to save her life. Besides, the conflicts here have little or nothing to do with differences in beliefs, and are all about style.Actually even that is doubtful. Top had a VERY different style and Arisha didn't care. Same rant. The way I see it, what she's doing here is just unrestricted venting, her way of coping with her offline life frustrations. Similar to Silver. In offline life she's a victim of MrG who punishes her with pain. In online life she can play out the MrG scenario in reverse. She can do the punishing of - in her perception - MrG-like characters like Top, E&R... So, E&R and Top are just some kind of virtual voodoo dolls to her. The difference to Silver is that Silver has at least some basic manners and knows when to stop because forums are some kind of lifeline for her so she will do anything to not get banned or lose support. Arisha doesn't really care because she's not here to get attention or support. Arisha's MrG scenario is going on since more than 20 years. Silver's scenario for about 3 years. So there's much more momentum at work with Arisha than with Silver. Well, gosh hon. That's just a whole lotta armchair psychoanalysis! Very surface.
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