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Post by enigma on Feb 18, 2013 12:15:57 GMT -5
Greetings.. I didn't say I would agree with what you say or never say anything you don't agree with, I just meant that the struggle isn't happening here. There may be some twisted accuracy in that belief.. that if your target stands still, you don't have to struggle to misrepresent their understandings while advancing your agenda.. and again, i see no evidence that " the struggle isn't happening [t]here", what i see and experience is that you incite struggle, intentionally.. Be well.. All I can tell you is that I don't. I don't want peeps to struggle, to get angry, hurt, hateful.
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Post by justlikeyou on Feb 18, 2013 12:35:02 GMT -5
All I can tell you is that I don't. I don't want peeps to struggle, to get angry, hurt, hateful. Much gnashing of teeth can be avoided if we don't try to take peeps illusions/delusions away before they are ready and willing. It's no different than trying to take the winos bottle away before he's ready. Too much of that happens on forums in the name of helping/loving. Not saying you do that. I haven't really watched you fully in action so I don't know. I only know that fireworks on a discussion board almost always involves one who thinks they know better and are going to make the blind one see it whether they want to or not, for their own good of course. This is violence and provokes a backlash against the very thing the do gooder wants the other to see/realize.
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Post by spudness on Feb 18, 2013 12:47:26 GMT -5
[/quote] Tzu- There may be some twisted accuracy in that belief.. that if your target stands still, you don't have to struggle to misrepresent their understandings while advancing your agenda.. and again, i see no evidence that " the struggle isn't happening [t]here", what i see and experience is that you incite struggle, intentionally.. [/quote] Mirror Mirror on the wall.
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Post by tzujanli on Feb 18, 2013 13:04:59 GMT -5
Greetings.. Welcome to the forum! So, just getting here? do you and i have a previous history, on this or other forums? What do you see when you look into the "mirror mirror on the wall"? Be well..
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Post by spudness on Feb 18, 2013 13:17:58 GMT -5
Greetings.. Welcome to the forum! (Thank you.) So, just getting here? (Yes.) do you and i have a previous history, on this or other forums? (I never kiss and tell. ) What do you see when you look into the "mirror mirror on the wall"? (What mirror?) (What do you see?) Be well..
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Post by enigma on Feb 18, 2013 13:28:16 GMT -5
All I can tell you is that I don't. I don't want peeps to struggle, to get angry, hurt, hateful. Much gnashing of teeth can be avoided if we don't try to take peeps illusions/delusions away before they are ready and willing. It's no different than trying to take the winos bottle away before he's ready. Too much of that happens on forums in the name of helping/loving. Not saying you do that. I haven't really watched you fully in action so I don't know. I only know that fireworks on a discussion board almost always involves one who thinks they know better and are going to make the blind one see it whether they want to or not, for their own good of course. This is violence and provokes a backlash against the very thing the do gooder wants the other to see/realize. I agree. So what is it that makes one 'ready and willing'?
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Post by tzujanli on Feb 18, 2013 13:34:21 GMT -5
Greetings.. Greetings.. Welcome to the forum! (Thank you.) So, just getting here? (Yes.) do you and i have a previous history, on this or other forums? ( I never kiss and tell. ) What do you see when you look into the "mirror mirror on the wall"? (What mirror?) ( What do you see?) Be well.. I'll wait for your answers.. you seem evasive, why? are you hiding something? Be well..
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Post by spudness on Feb 18, 2013 13:52:12 GMT -5
Greetings.. ( What do you see?) Be well.. I'll wait for your answers.. you seem evasive, why? are you hiding something? Be well.. I'm playing, Tzu. Noth'n shady going on.
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Post by justlikeyou on Feb 18, 2013 17:17:50 GMT -5
I agree. So what is it that makes one 'ready and willing'? I have no idea what makes one ready or willing. Can anyone know that? However, I certainly know when my words are well received and when they are not. Open, closed, do you really not know this?
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Post by enigma on Feb 18, 2013 20:57:40 GMT -5
I agree. So what is it that makes one 'ready and willing'? I have no idea what makes one ready or willing. Can anyone know that? However, I certainly know when my words are well received and when they are not. Open, closed, do you really not know this? I don't know what it means to be open to seeing what one doesn't see because one doesn't want to see it. Tzu thinks he's open, honest and sincere, and Silver thinks she's open too. Arisha is beyond turbo-open and connected to the divine channel of the universe. It's just not that simple.
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Post by justlikeyou on Feb 18, 2013 21:18:36 GMT -5
It's just not that simple. You don't know when your words are well received and when they are not?
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Post by enigma on Feb 18, 2013 21:36:29 GMT -5
It's just not that simple. You don't know when your words are well received and when they are not? Of course I do. Did you read the rest of my post?
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Post by justlikeyou on Feb 18, 2013 21:44:19 GMT -5
You don't know when your words are well received and when they are not? Of course I do. Did you read the rest of my post? Are those you mentioned above receiving your words well or not? If not, whats the point to continuing when all continuing does is create the very thing you said you didn't want i.e. "peeps to struggle, to get angry, hurt, hateful."?
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Post by enigma on Feb 18, 2013 22:38:55 GMT -5
Of course I do. Did you read the rest of my post? Are those you mentioned above receiving your words well or not? If not, whats the point to continuing when all continuing does is create the very thing you said you didn't want i.e. "peeps to struggle, to get angry, hurt, hateful."? It's okay if they get upset, it's just not my goal or intention. As I see it, it's life that makes one ready and willing. The actual experience of what doesn't work is what makes us open to new possibilities. I'm just here talking about what seems to be going on. How can that be wrong? I'm on a spiritual forum where we explore how to end or alleviate suffering. How can talking about the cause of that suffering be inappropriate? You want me to have a return on my investment, but it's not about profit and loss. I don't pretend to know what needs to happen. It's happening. Why isn't that enough?
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Post by tzujanli on Feb 18, 2013 23:01:31 GMT -5
I have no idea what makes one ready or willing. Can anyone know that? However, I certainly know when my words are well received and when they are not. Open, closed, do you really not know this? I don't know what it means to be open to seeing what one doesn't see because one doesn't want to see it. Tzu thinks he's open, honest and sincere, and Silver thinks she's open too. Arisha is beyond turbo-open and connected to the divine channel of the universe. It's just not that simple. Hi enigma: One of the more consistent irritants in your arsenal of irritants, is your self-righteous judgment of others.. yes, i understand the pejorative nature of the term, "self-righteous", but when the shoe fits, it's yours.. you hammer away at others, those that don't agree with your beliefs, and when challenged.. refuse to engage in open and honest discussion about the differences.. It would be truly refreshing to witness you demonstrating authentic awe and wonder, but.. that can't be, it might damage your self-inflated image of 'all knowing', no surprises, no spontaneity, just all-knowing dispenser of 'truth' and your beliefs about 'spiritual justice' and 'spiritual teaching'.. I truly wish it were different, but it's not.. Be well..
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