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Post by laughter on Jan 21, 2013 10:55:25 GMT -5
How could I possibly know that? My comment was based on entirely on the couple of quotes, attributed to Niz, about his experience. I think trust is a very important component of any successful student/teacher relationship. Seems difficult to maintain though ... doubts or indecision start creeping in ... then the student will bounce around from one teacher to the next. . The Hindi translation of "Ananda" into "Bliss" is an obvious disaster ... I wonder what the translation for "trust" is. |
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Post by topology on Jan 21, 2013 10:58:47 GMT -5
Are you still here? I thought you had a new board with proper moderation, where posters are serious and stay on topic and don't ever discuss style. Bug-free forum, yes. ;D Slowing down the momentum. *Puts fist over mouth and coughs* bullshit! ;D The momentum is easily stopped, logout and don't log back in. Delete your account. I'm not saying you should do this, but that you can't use "slowing down momentum" as a reason for coming back. That's like an addict going back to his heroin dealer and telling him that "I came back to wean myself." |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 10:58:53 GMT -5
Ha ha, perfect. That's exactly what you do. And in ignoring my request for a clarifying link, you don't even say what the conclusion you arrived at was! Perfect example of a hit and run. I haven't requested your moderating skills. Call me silly, but I trust in the innate wisdom of the majority of members here to see what an obstacle to community is. |
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Post by Peter on Jan 21, 2013 11:04:12 GMT -5
I haven't requested your moderating skills. Call me silly, but I trust in the innate wisdom of the majority of members here to see what an obstacle to community is. Oh I'm not particularly moderating. This thing I'm doing of pointing out to you that you fail to back up any assertion you make I was doing way before I became a moderator and it's a free service I provide (apparently just to you) for the benefit of all beings. On the subject of the majority of members being able to detect an obstacle to community in their midsts: I look forward to hearing from them on the subject. |
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Post by tzujanli on Jan 21, 2013 11:06:59 GMT -5
Greetings.. Ah...another Peter gambit. He decides he missed the mark, then edits the post, and takes it in a different direction. That's not fair, Hetrodox. I added to my post in order to provide a suggestion for how you could avoid this situation you keep finding yourself in. I do not see that my first part "missed the mark" and I do not see that my second part went in a different direction. Let me summarise: 1. Yes indeed Top, Living does have an annoying habit of referencing his readers back to something he claims to have clearly stated earlier. Attempting to actually do so is a fruitless endevour. 2. Living, if you provide a link back to where you think you've clearly stated whatever it was, then you avoid situation 1 above. Plus, I'm bitter about you making me summarise an entire thread and then making fun of me for doing what you asked me to do. I prefer not to litter the board with post after post of one liners. If I've got something to say on a subject then I like to collect all those points into one post. At least until the conversation moves on and I need to reply to some other point. But it's not a hit and run with enigma and silence, right? I can't say I've had much interaction with Silence since his arrival. I think most of his posts are fairly on the mark. Maybe he does pop in to play Enigma's wingman from time to time - I'll keep that in mind. Enigma though, no, definitely not hit and run. Quite the opposite; hanging around the scene of the accident and offering to clarify any point that might have been made or imagined until all the bodies have rotted away and the cars have rusted into dust. Downright bloody minded in his willingness to clarify, I'd say.I will take exception with your understanding of enigma.. i have asked repeatedly and sincerely for clarification, for discussion.. i have tried sincerity, and been met with ridicule and mockery, and so the result is to reflect back the image enigma projects.. i see people defending his aggressive and abusive style in the name of greater good, but the greater good never appears.. enigma insists that you discuss on his terms, but refuses to engage 'on a level playing field'.. i respectfully suggest that you look at enigma's interaction on this forum with no bias toward his beliefs, rather as a consideration of this forum's general health.. Sincerely, Bob |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 11:07:37 GMT -5
On the subject of the majority of members being able to detect an obstacle to community in their midsts: I look forward to hearing from them on the subject. I do believe the majority of women have already spoken on the subject. All we have left here is- silver. Bless her heart.  |
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Post by Reefs on Jan 21, 2013 11:09:46 GMT -5
Bug-free forum, yes. ;D Slowing down the momentum. *Puts fist over mouth and coughs* bullnuts! ;D The momentum is easily stopped, logout and don't log back in. Delete your account. I'm not saying you should do this, but that you can't use "slowing down momentum" as a reason for coming back. That's like an addict going back to his heroin dealer and telling him that "I came back to wean myself." What's your issue with smooth transitions? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 11:17:08 GMT -5
Greetings.. That's not fair, Hetrodox. I added to my post in order to provide a suggestion for how you could avoid this situation you keep finding yourself in. I do not see that my first part "missed the mark" and I do not see that my second part went in a different direction. Let me summarise: 1. Yes indeed Top, Living does have an annoying habit of referencing his readers back to something he claims to have clearly stated earlier. Attempting to actually do so is a fruitless endevour. 2. Living, if you provide a link back to where you think you've clearly stated whatever it was, then you avoid situation 1 above. Plus, I'm bitter about you making me summarise an entire thread and then making fun of me for doing what you asked me to do. I prefer not to litter the board with post after post of one liners. If I've got something to say on a subject then I like to collect all those points into one post. At least until the conversation moves on and I need to reply to some other point. I can't say I've had much interaction with Silence since his arrival. I think most of his posts are fairly on the mark. Maybe he does pop in to play Enigma's wingman from time to time - I'll keep that in mind. Enigma though, no, definitely not hit and run. Quite the opposite; hanging around the scene of the accident and offering to clarify any point that might have been made or imagined until all the bodies have rotted away and the cars have rusted into dust. Downright bloody minded in his willingness to clarify, I'd say.I will take exception with your understanding of enigma.. i have asked repeatedly and sincerely for clarification, for discussion.. i have tried sincerity, and been met with ridicule and mockery, and so the result is to reflect back the image enigma projects.. i see people defending his aggressive and abusive style in the name of greater good, but the greater good never appears.. enigma insists that you discuss on his terms, but refuses to engage 'on a level playing field'.. i respectfully suggest that you look at enigma's interaction on this forum with no bias toward his beliefs, rather as a consideration of this forum's general health.. Sincerely, Bob Clear as a bell on a cold winter morning. |
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Post by Peter on Jan 21, 2013 11:18:07 GMT -5
I will take exception with your understanding of enigma.. i have asked repeatedly and sincerely for clarification, for discussion.. i have tried sincerity, and been met with ridicule and mockery, and so the result is to reflect back the image enigma projects.. i see people defending his aggressive and abusive style in the name of greater good, but the greater good never appears.. enigma insists that you discuss on his terms, but refuses to engage 'on a level playing field'.. i respectfully suggest that you look at enigma's interaction on this forum with no bias toward his beliefs, rather as a consideration of this forum's general health.. OK, I'll look. Give me a link to a post where you've asked for clarity in a genuine open handed way, without making an attack of your own and I'll check it out. P |
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Post by Peter on Jan 21, 2013 11:20:39 GMT -5
I do believe the majority of women have already spoken on the subject. All we have left here is- silver. Bless her heart. Esponja and Quinn not counted as women? One of Reef's beefs about me is that I have bias towards protecting women on this forum. Which I think goes to show that as well as not being able to please everyone all of the time, you can't actually please everyone at any time. |
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Post by topology on Jan 21, 2013 11:21:07 GMT -5
No, wasn't implying that that was her sole motivation. No doubt she came at you full bore. Now, Top explained to me quite some time ago, that they're just words on a page. I've had many occasions where I didn't quite agree with him, but I had to admit he was completely right on target with that. They can't hurt you, they can't even 'come at' a person 'full bore'. Black ink (or whatever) on white snowy pure background - there's nothing there to hurt anyone no how. Right, Top?  We are hurt in as much as we attach ourselves to what is being said. That said, however, we can't control how much others attach themselves to what is said and then act on those attachments. If someone falsely accuses me of stealing from a till and they publicize this, it ruins my reputation and impacts my hirability. I consider it appropriate to step in and clarify misrepresentation and libel. |
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Post by silver on Jan 21, 2013 11:22:23 GMT -5
On the subject of the majority of members being able to detect an obstacle to community in their midsts: I look forward to hearing from them on the subject. I do believe the majority of women have already spoken on the subject. All we have left here is- silver. Bless her heart. Wow. What a sight to wake up to - an imaginary room full of peeps having a pillow fight - glove-slaps - I made a ref to a conversation Top and I had about the words on a page not being able to hurt anyone, and he doesn't say a word - seems like the only thing I could count on is laughter - bless his heart. Peter, I guess reefs doesn't like the sound of crickets...  |
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Post by topology on Jan 21, 2013 11:26:41 GMT -5
*Puts fist over mouth and coughs* bullnuts! ;D The momentum is easily stopped, logout and don't log back in. Delete your account. I'm not saying you should do this, but that you can't use "slowing down momentum" as a reason for coming back. That's like an addict going back to his heroin dealer and telling him that "I came back to wean myself." What's your issue with smooth transitions? I don't have any issue with smooth transitions. I don't have an issue with someone actively participating at more than one forum either. |
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Post by silver on Jan 21, 2013 11:33:13 GMT -5
Now, Top explained to me quite some time ago, that they're just words on a page. I've had many occasions where I didn't quite agree with him, but I had to admit he was completely right on target with that. They can't hurt you, they can't even 'come at' a person 'full bore'. Black ink (or whatever) on white snowy pure background - there's nothing there to hurt anyone no how. Right, Top? We are hurt in as much as we attach ourselves to what is being said. That said, however, we can't control how much others attach themselves to what is said and then act on those attachments. If someone falsely accuses me of stealing from a till and they publicize this, it ruins my reputation and impacts my hirability. I consider it appropriate to step in and clarify misrepresentation and libel. Hah, ya make a liar outta me 1 minute before my post, Top. Thanks! J/K~ And what if Arisha's 'wild' contentions turned out to be true? She's unable to defend herself against the potential 'misrepresentations and libel' put forth by certain parties here. You have no problem with someone else's rep, apparently... |
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Post by tzujanli on Jan 21, 2013 11:35:34 GMT -5
Greetings.. I will take exception with your understanding of enigma.. i have asked repeatedly and sincerely for clarification, for discussion.. i have tried sincerity, and been met with ridicule and mockery, and so the result is to reflect back the image enigma projects.. i see people defending his aggressive and abusive style in the name of greater good, but the greater good never appears.. enigma insists that you discuss on his terms, but refuses to engage 'on a level playing field'.. i respectfully suggest that you look at enigma's interaction on this forum with no bias toward his beliefs, rather as a consideration of this forum's general health.. OK, I'll look. Give me a link to a post where you've asked for clarity in a genuine open handed way, without making an attack of your own and I'll check it out. P Please look at the exchange openly.. enigma challenges my sincerity with, " Alas i don't".. i respond 'in kind', and make a very sincere appeal for discussion.. i have done this repeatedly.. i have also asked questions without any attached intention other than clarification.. i sense no intention from enigma other than to advance his agenda is a nearly 'ruthless' way.. here's a link: spiritualteachers.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=misc&thread=2592&post=97563Be well.. |
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