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Post by enigma on Dec 21, 2012 1:35:25 GMT -5
Greetings.. So Tzu thinks his role here is to win an intellectual pissing contest, and you figure you won the heavyweight title twice in a row and you're getting in shape for the third match? Meanwhile, Arisha is looking around for fresh faces to bltch slap. Excuse me but what the hell is wrong with you people? LOL.. You really have no idea what 'Tzu' thinks his 'role here is', i'm a 'newbie', so.. i watch a while, i see a member with nearly 15000 posts in under 3 years, treating others as if this is his private 'intellectual pissin' party', and other than the ones being pissed on, no one seems to care.. so, based on the forum decorum, it mostly looks like SF refugees admiring their freedom to push others around.. that's the "Rome" i see.. Not speaking for others, but.. what the hell is wrong with 'You', missin' some good-ol Ruthless Truth beatdowns? i'm not here to baby-sit your tantrums anymore than i was at SF.. now, if you have the interest to engage in straightforward discussion, where you face reality rather than distort other people's attempts for open discussion, that would be interesting.. if not, if you're still insisting that others comply with your worship of your self-image.. buckle-up bucko, it's gonna be a wild ride.. Be well.. You came here looking for a fight. Don't pretend you want a 'straightforward, camp bee well discussion'. Be honest about it at least. You find "intellectual pissin party" because that's what you're looking for. That's what you do. It's what you've always done.
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Post by Reefs on Dec 21, 2012 1:44:11 GMT -5
Greetings..
LOL.. You really have no idea what 'Tzu' thinks his 'role here is', i'm a 'newbie', so.. i watch a while, i see a member with nearly 15000 posts in under 3 years, treating others as if this is his private 'intellectual pissin' party', and other than the ones being pissed on, no one seems to care.. so, based on the forum decorum, it mostly looks like SF refugees admiring their freedom to push others around.. that's the "Rome" i see..
Not speaking for others, but.. what the hell is wrong with 'You', missin' some good-ol Ruthless Truth beatdowns? i'm not here to baby-sit your tantrums anymore than i was at SF.. now, if you have the interest to engage in straightforward discussion, where you face reality rather than distort other people's attempts for open discussion, that would be interesting.. if not, if you're still insisting that others comply with your worship of your self-image.. buckle-up bucko, it's gonna be a wild ride..
Be well.. Ho, ho. Crikey. What the heck is that?
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Post by Reefs on Dec 21, 2012 1:47:07 GMT -5
Greetings.. LOL.. You really have no idea what 'Tzu' thinks his 'role here is', i'm a 'newbie', so.. i watch a while, i see a member with nearly 15000 posts in under 3 years, treating others as if this is his private 'intellectual pissin' party', and other than the ones being pissed on, no one seems to care.. so, based on the forum decorum, it mostly looks like SF refugees admiring their freedom to push others around.. that's the "Rome" i see.. Not speaking for others, but.. what the hell is wrong with 'You', missin' some good-ol Ruthless Truth beatdowns? i'm not here to baby-sit your tantrums anymore than i was at SF.. now, if you have the interest to engage in straightforward discussion, where you face reality rather than distort other people's attempts for open discussion, that would be interesting.. if not, if you're still insisting that others comply with your worship of your self-image.. buckle-up bucko, it's gonna be a wild ride.. Be well.. You came here looking for a fight. Don't pretend you want a 'straightforward, camp bee well discussion'. Be honest about it at least. You find "intellectual pissin party" because that's what you're looking for. That's what you do. It's what you've always done. Is that within the forum guidelines on SF?
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Post by tzujanli on Dec 21, 2012 1:49:13 GMT -5
Greetings.. Greetings.. LOL.. You really have no idea what 'Tzu' thinks his 'role here is', i'm a 'newbie', so.. i watch a while, i see a member with nearly 15000 posts in under 3 years, treating others as if this is his private 'intellectual pissin' party', and other than the ones being pissed on, no one seems to care.. so, based on the forum decorum, it mostly looks like SF refugees admiring their freedom to push others around.. that's the "Rome" i see.. Not speaking for others, but.. what the hell is wrong with 'You', missin' some good-ol Ruthless Truth beatdowns? i'm not here to baby-sit your tantrums anymore than i was at SF.. now, if you have the interest to engage in straightforward discussion, where you face reality rather than distort other people's attempts for open discussion, that would be interesting.. if not, if you're still insisting that others comply with your worship of your self-image.. buckle-up bucko, it's gonna be a wild ride.. Be well.. You came here looking for a fight. Don't pretend you want a 'straightforward, camp bee well discussion'. Be honest about it at least. You find "intellectual pissin party" because that's what you're looking for. That's what you do. It's what you've always done. No, i came looking for discussion, open honest discussion.. you were fighting when i got here, it's what you do.. yes, i am a reluctant warrior, but i will entertain sincere exploration of existence.. you will not, you crusade your agenda as if you alone know the Great Mystery and are here to educate the poor masses.. You want honesty, there it is. Bee Well..
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Post by tzujanli on Dec 21, 2012 1:54:36 GMT -5
Greetings.. Greetings..
LOL.. You really have no idea what 'Tzu' thinks his 'role here is', i'm a 'newbie', so.. i watch a while, i see a member with nearly 15000 posts in under 3 years, treating others as if this is his private 'intellectual pissin' party', and other than the ones being pissed on, no one seems to care.. so, based on the forum decorum, it mostly looks like SF refugees admiring their freedom to push others around.. that's the "Rome" i see..
Not speaking for others, but.. what the hell is wrong with 'You', missin' some good-ol Ruthless Truth beatdowns? i'm not here to baby-sit your tantrums anymore than i was at SF.. now, if you have the interest to engage in straightforward discussion, where you face reality rather than distort other people's attempts for open discussion, that would be interesting.. if not, if you're still insisting that others comply with your worship of your self-image.. buckle-up bucko, it's gonna be a wild ride..
Be well.. Ho, ho. Crikey. What the heck is that? It's an honest observation.. Interesting how you focus on the most negative terms and phrases, then highlight them.. Now.. where were we.. Oneness..? Be well..
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Post by enigma on Dec 21, 2012 1:54:42 GMT -5
Greetings..
LOL.. You really have no idea what 'Tzu' thinks his 'role here is', i'm a 'newbie', so.. i watch a while, i see a member with nearly 15000 posts in under 3 years, treating others as if this is his private 'intellectual pissin' party', and other than the ones being pissed on, no one seems to care.. so, based on the forum decorum, it mostly looks like SF refugees admiring their freedom to push others around.. that's the "Rome" i see..
Not speaking for others, but.. what the hell is wrong with 'You', missin' some good-ol Ruthless Truth beatdowns? i'm not here to baby-sit your tantrums anymore than i was at SF.. now, if you have the interest to engage in straightforward discussion, where you face reality rather than distort other people's attempts for open discussion, that would be interesting.. if not, if you're still insisting that others comply with your worship of your self-image.. buckle-up bucko, it's gonna be a wild ride..
Be well.. Ho, ho. Crikey. What the heck is that? It's an invitation to a pissin party.
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Post by enigma on Dec 21, 2012 1:57:04 GMT -5
You came here looking for a fight. Don't pretend you want a 'straightforward, camp bee well discussion'. Be honest about it at least. You find "intellectual pissin party" because that's what you're looking for. That's what you do. It's what you've always done. Is that within the forum guidelines on SF? He's been in his share of hot water over there but they figure he's basically okay cuz he does good greetings.
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Post by arisha on Dec 21, 2012 2:07:50 GMT -5
Is that within the forum guidelines on SF? He's been in his share of hot water over there but they figure he's basically okay cuz he does good greetings. Again a fit of imagination with you, Enigma?
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Post by arisha on Dec 21, 2012 2:10:13 GMT -5
What a uselessness of realization! Only deluded imagination...
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Post by Reefs on Dec 21, 2012 2:19:41 GMT -5
It's an honest observation.. Interesting how you focus on the most negative terms and phrases, then highlight them.. Yeah, that's what I meant with mixed message. They don't match your benevolent greetings and well wishes at all. No, we were still stuck with your projections about "pejorative intent". But we can move on now because with your post above you've proved my point very well, indeed.
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Post by Reefs on Dec 21, 2012 2:22:22 GMT -5
Ho, ho. Crikey. What the heck is that? It's an invitation to a pissin party. I think I'll pass.
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Post by silence on Dec 21, 2012 2:27:20 GMT -5
Greetings.. So Tzu thinks his role here is to win an intellectual pissing contest, and you figure you won the heavyweight title twice in a row and you're getting in shape for the third match? Meanwhile, Arisha is looking around for fresh faces to bltch slap. Excuse me but what the hell is wrong with you people? LOL.. You really have no idea what 'Tzu' thinks his 'role here is', i'm a 'newbie', so.. i watch a while, i see a member with nearly 15000 posts in under 3 years, treating others as if this is his private 'intellectual pissin' party', and other than the ones being pissed on, no one seems to care.. so, based on the forum decorum, it mostly looks like SF refugees admiring their freedom to push others around.. that's the "Rome" i see.. Not speaking for others, but.. what the hell is wrong with 'You', missin' some good-ol Ruthless Truth beatdowns? i'm not here to baby-sit your tantrums anymore than i was at SF.. now, if you have the interest to engage in straightforward discussion, where you face reality rather than distort other people's attempts for open discussion, that would be interesting.. if not, if you're still insisting that others comply with your worship of your self-image.. buckle-up bucko, it's gonna be a wild ride.. Be well.. Ah, the mask comes off.
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Post by Reefs on Dec 21, 2012 2:31:58 GMT -5
Greetings.. LOL.. You really have no idea what 'Tzu' thinks his 'role here is', i'm a 'newbie', so.. i watch a while, i see a member with nearly 15000 posts in under 3 years, treating others as if this is his private 'intellectual pissin' party', and other than the ones being pissed on, no one seems to care.. so, based on the forum decorum, it mostly looks like SF refugees admiring their freedom to push others around.. that's the "Rome" i see.. Not speaking for others, but.. what the hell is wrong with 'You', missin' some good-ol Ruthless Truth beatdowns? i'm not here to baby-sit your tantrums anymore than i was at SF.. now, if you have the interest to engage in straightforward discussion, where you face reality rather than distort other people's attempts for open discussion, that would be interesting.. if not, if you're still insisting that others comply with your worship of your self-image.. buckle-up bucko, it's gonna be a wild ride.. Be well.. Ah, the mask comes off. Pardon his French, eh?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2012 8:29:26 GMT -5
Hi arisha, I just wanted to comment on some things for the record. Feel free to pm me during your hiatus. It's interesting, arisha, how you identify as being "very peaceful." It's not my impression of you. I do sense that you are trying to be helpful and almost protective of the likes of me. I admire your persistence in fighting what you see as deception. For the most part, however, your targets for who you claim to being deceptive doesn't ring true to me personally. It's not a surprise to you, I know, that I don't see enigma and silence and topology and reefs as being deceptive. Your claims that some of them use NLP and such is just to far-fetched for me to take seriously. My impression of you is more that you are sort of latched onto a deep suspicion of enigma and a few others because they relentlessly challenge you. But they are equal-opportunity challengers, as far as I've seen. In other words, don't take it personally. I see a sort of blindness in your attack on them. It seems like you assume deception first, and if the deceptiveness isn't easily spotted, it's because they are being super duper tricky and deceptive. It must be really frustrating for you! I take it as quite possible that everyone who has ever posted here is suffering from self deception of some sort. In this way, I agree with andrew, though he appears to be more certain than me. I include myself here, obviously. The attitude or tone that bugs me the most is arrogance. It's when someone appears to be 'lording' their message over or when they appear to be coming from a lofty vantage point. I don't see andrew or ZD doing that for example. I don't see enigma, silence. reefs or topology doing that either, though they are more open to direct challenge. When they challenge me, I take the resulting feelings I have as useful. How do I feel about being challenged? The hotter I feel the more useful the experience, IMO, (on good days! . In other words, it's useful to see what I take personally. I agree with any criticism of me when it is based on my mistakes and when I am guilty in something. And it happens too often without a reason as I was many times told. So, I don't see it as true when you describe me in the way you do. Too many other people who know me much better than you, are of the opposite opinion as compared to yours. That is why, I guess, you don't see anything dominating and inappropriate in the behavior of the forum members you've mentioned, - you cannot see that in the same way as you cannot see what is wrong about your opinion regarding me. Yes, I take it as a given that I won't be able to see the inaccuracies of my own opinions. I am blind to them. It's the human condition. Part of the reason I'm here is to facilitate the airing out of those inaccuracies. It's good to be in dialogue for that reason. And methinks it's useful to be open to the possibility that one's own opinions are deluded and wrong. This is all an internal game. It's always about me. For the record, which is quoted, unedited, above, I never said that I think that. In any case, what bugs me is my deal. We all have filters that distort. I apparently get annoyed by what I percieve as an 'arrogant' distortion. Whatever. I'm sure my particular distortion bugs other people too. I'm just guessing based on what I read on this forum. And I really only mean stuff within in the context of this forum. I have no clue what you are like in person. I don't think this text-based reality can tell us much how a person 'feels' in person. Three cheers to that! I guess tastes vary. I like my coffee strong and black. I prefer to burn my marshmallows and eat the carcinagous crunchy ash. Jumping through a hole in a frozen lake is my idea of a good time. I enjoy the mad bite of the schticks of Lenny Bruce and Bill Hicks, which make the snarky insults of Don Rickles look tame. Again, it's part of my particular distortion. I like the edge of John Coltrane when he gets so far out it hurts the ears. I like tamer stuff too -- Bach, Beatles, Berra, sweet lattes.... I'm an opportunist when it comes to learning and pleasure. Humiliation is in the eye of the beholder. That is not true. Supported by some, not by others. I'm not a supporter, for example. I've had long interchanges with you on exactly this and have not once seen you substantiate a charge. So you're right, I haven't seen it. I do see him relentlessly challenging you, as you do him. Again, I call neither 'arrogance.' But it doesn't matter. I don't care for the rezzzzzz term either. But you'll find andrew and enigma rezzzzzing with each other from time to time. They also have epic disagreements. In both, the simultaneous rezzzzzzing and disagreeing testifies to an openness to listen to the others perspective, to see if what other is saying looks similar to what they understand. That openness is important. Thanks I need it! Understanding and consensus is a two way street.
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Post by merrick on Dec 21, 2012 9:39:12 GMT -5
LOL.. You really have no idea what 'Tzu' thinks his 'role here is', i'm a 'newbie', so.. i watch a while, i see a member with nearly 15000 posts in under 3 years, treating others as if this is his private 'intellectual pissin' party', and other than the ones being pissed on, no one seems to care.. so, based on the forum decorum, it mostly looks like SF refugees admiring their freedom to push others around.. that's the "Rome" i see.. Not speaking for others, but.. what the hell is wrong with 'You', missin' some good-ol Ruthless Truth beatdowns? i'm not here to baby-sit your tantrums anymore than i was at SF.. now, if you have the interest to engage in straightforward discussion, where you face reality rather than distort other people's attempts for open discussion, that would be interesting.. if not, if you're still insisting that others comply with your worship of your self-image.. buckle-up bucko, it's gonna be a wild ride.. Be well.. Why to be so tense? Why not to be well yourself? Isn't this perhaps a good time to stop, reflect a bit, and express your gratitude to Enigma for having shown you what pushes your buttons? Btw., I don't see your accusations of Enigma as true. Perhaps when you get to know him better you won't either. But you're always free to refrain from getting involved in discussion with him if you feel you cannot find a common ground. Merrick
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