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Post by siftingtothetruth on Sept 13, 2020 16:12:08 GMT -5
Meditating on the "I am" thought can be helpful: it can concentrate the mind dramatically. However, that thought is *just* a thought. That said, it does not undermine habits as well as either self-inquiry -- which is *chasing the knowledge of the I* -- or surrender. Nor does it touch on the incompleteness of our knowledge of the I, so it does not prompt the final insight we seek as sharply. That said, if it is followed with devotion and energy, it is a powerful spiritual method.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Sept 13, 2020 17:04:41 GMT -5
If you are referring to the thought of I am as the practice given to Niz, and by Niz, you are incorrect. What Niz practiced for 3 years and what he recommended to others is not staying in the thought of I am but staying in I am. Go back to the Niz thread in the teachers section, the second post does not say thought of I am. The short quote in full makes it clear he does not mean thinking I am. What Niz practiced and taught others is essentially the same as Ramana's Self-Inquiry (which you describe pretty correctly). spiritualteachers.proboards.com/thread/5345/nisargadatta-maharaj
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Post by siftingtothetruth on Sept 13, 2020 17:44:01 GMT -5
If you are referring to the thought of I am as the practice given to Niz, and by Niz, you are incorrect. What Niz practiced for 3 years and what he recommended to others is not staying in the thought of I am but staying in I am. Go back to the Niz thread in the teachers section, the second post does not say thought of I am. The short quote in full makes it clear he does not mean thinking I am. What Niz practiced and taught others is essentially the same as Ramana's Self-Inquiry (which you describe pretty correctly). spiritualteachers.proboards.com/thread/5345/nisargadatta-maharajI'm not necessarily referring to Nisargadatta's practice.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Sept 13, 2020 18:23:24 GMT -5
If you are referring to the thought of I am as the practice given to Niz, and by Niz, you are incorrect. What Niz practiced for 3 years and what he recommended to others is not staying in the thought of I am but staying in I am. Go back to the Niz thread in the teachers section, the second post does not say thought of I am. The short quote in full makes it clear he does not mean thinking I am. What Niz practiced and taught others is essentially the same as Ramana's Self-Inquiry (which you describe pretty correctly). spiritualteachers.proboards.com/thread/5345/nisargadatta-maharajI'm not necessarily referring to Nisargadatta's practice. OK.
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