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Post by siftingtothetruth on Jun 14, 2020 23:14:28 GMT -5
Spiritual awakening or liberation is essentially a matter of immense, intense discernment -- an act of focused distinguishing away of all the things one is not, which then reveals what one really is, though that revelation is not to the one who originally sought it. That's the paradox of seeking: you seek as you know that you are what you seek. The intense discernment required for the search is driven by equally intense desire for liberation, which generates, through practice, a relatively quiet mind, and focus... which must be then be channeled all the way through -- to discerning away ALL the things that you are not. There is an end to the process, but it is not what you think it is.
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Post by steven on Jun 24, 2020 22:33:02 GMT -5
I don’t know
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Post by amit on Jun 25, 2020 1:52:41 GMT -5
Spiritual awakening or liberation is essentially a matter of immense, intense discernment -- an act of focused distinguishing away of all the things one is not, which then reveals what one really is, though that revelation is not to the one who originally sought it. That's the paradox of seeking: you seek as you know that you are what you seek. The intense discernment required for the search is driven by equally intense desire for liberation, which generates, through practice, a relatively quiet mind, and focus... which must be then be channeled all the way through -- to discerning away ALL the things that you are not. There is an end to the process, but it is not what you think it is. How can that possiby be the case! If you are already aware that you are what you seek then it is clear that no change is required to the state one is already in. |
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Post by Reefs on Jun 25, 2020 7:30:01 GMT -5
Steve is back!  |
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Post by siftingtothetruth on Jun 25, 2020 7:54:58 GMT -5
Spiritual awakening or liberation is essentially a matter of immense, intense discernment -- an act of focused distinguishing away of all the things one is not, which then reveals what one really is, though that revelation is not to the one who originally sought it. That's the paradox of seeking: you seek as you know that you are what you seek. The intense discernment required for the search is driven by equally intense desire for liberation, which generates, through practice, a relatively quiet mind, and focus... which must be then be channeled all the way through -- to discerning away ALL the things that you are not. There is an end to the process, but it is not what you think it is. How can that possiby be the case! If you are already aware that you are what you seek then it is clear that no change is required to the state one is already in. It is not ultimately the case, but it is apparently the case. So long as one identifies with the doer and experiences, one must seek to cut the veil that supports those illusions. |
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Post by Peter on Jun 25, 2020 8:17:35 GMT -5
Steve is back! Wow. Let's see...last post....Aug 1 2018. Nearly 2 years away and he just swans back in with an IDK like he never left. Hello stranger, what you been up to? |
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Post by amit on Jun 25, 2020 10:25:22 GMT -5
How can that possiby be the case! If you are already aware that you are what you seek then it is clear that no change is required to the state one is already in. It is not ultimately the case, but it is apparently the case. So long as one identifies with the doer and experiences, one must seek to cut the veil that supports those illusions. Ok that clarifies it, so you are not what you seek otherwise there would be no need to change. |
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Post by siftingtothetruth on Jun 25, 2020 10:56:37 GMT -5
It is not ultimately the case, but it is apparently the case. So long as one identifies with the doer and experiences, one must seek to cut the veil that supports those illusions. Ok that clarifies it, so you are not what you seek otherwise there would be no need to change. It appears to someone that they are not what they seek, and thus that one who is mistaken must seek to understand what they are. At the end of the process of seeking it will be revealed that there was no seeking and no mistake. If you try to throw away the boat before you get to the other side, it's not going to help you. |
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Post by amit on Jun 25, 2020 11:18:34 GMT -5
Ok that clarifies it, so you are not what you seek otherwise there would be no need to change. It appears to someone that they are not what they seek, and thus that one who is mistaken must seek to understand what they are. At the end of the process of seeking it will be revealed that there was no seeking and no mistake. If you try to throw away the boat before you get to the other side, it's not going to help you. But you said that you are what you seek then added that there needs to be change as though the change is what is sought rather than where you are at. Never mind:) |
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Post by siftingtothetruth on Jun 25, 2020 11:25:02 GMT -5
It appears to someone that they are not what they seek, and thus that one who is mistaken must seek to understand what they are. At the end of the process of seeking it will be revealed that there was no seeking and no mistake. If you try to throw away the boat before you get to the other side, it's not going to help you. But you said that you are what you seek then added that there needs to be change as though the change is what is sought rather than where you are at. Never mind:) No, I said "It is not ultimately the case, but it is apparently the case. So long as one identifies with the doer and experiences, one must seek to cut the veil that supports those illusions." Ok whatever.  |
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