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Post by krsnaraja on Oct 3, 2017 13:02:01 GMT -5
Nonduality simply says that the self and God have always been one. There is no becoming. Only those that abide in their self-nature can know that though. If I did people will say I am crazy..Being responsible for the 911, Hurricane Harvey, the shooting massacre in Last Vegas...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 13:19:01 GMT -5
Only those that abide in their self-nature can know that though. If I did people will say I am crazy..Being responsible for the 911, Hurricane Harvey, the shooting massacre in Last Vegas... The people that will say you are crazy don't know their own truth, and that is fine.. you will be the man that they know you as. People that know their truth let you live in your love.
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Post by laughter on Oct 3, 2017 15:36:00 GMT -5
Only those that abide in their self-nature can know that though. If I did people will say I am crazy..Being responsible for the 911, Hurricane Harvey, the shooting massacre in Last Vegas... The week before last Father Joe made a big deal out of the first reading. He made a point of telling us all that it was our "homework". He made us repeat after him to remember it : "Isiah, 55, 6-9". I had high expectations of when E' finally got around to explaining context. I didn't think anyone would be confused about it. Anywhere, ever again. Oh well. E' isn't saying that you are God in the sense that we pray to Him each Sunday, but E' is saying that the only way to create the appearance that you are separate from, that you are other to God, is by an illusion. That illusion is at the root of the sins of 9/11 and L.V., but God has no capacity to hate a sinner. There's no denying that people suffered because of Harvey, but if you think God is indifferent to that or happy about it, there's always the our father. The trick of the mind here is to think of God as a personality that you can predict and understand and respond to based on what you know of yourself and other men. That trick is why I suspect Joe gave us that homework.
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Post by krsnaraja on Oct 3, 2017 17:16:44 GMT -5
If I did people will say I am crazy..Being responsible for the 911, Hurricane Harvey, the shooting massacre in Last Vegas... The people that will say you are crazy don't know their own truth, and that is fine.. you will be the man that they know you as. People that know their truth let you live in your love. There are literally crazy people roaming the streets. But what about them telling about us? The insane thinks they are not crazy but us. We the sane thinks the insane are crazy. Telling people he is responsible for 911, Hurricane Harvey and the massacre in Las Vegas because he is God in the form of Siva is crazy thing. But there could be truth in it.
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Post by krsnaraja on Oct 3, 2017 17:27:22 GMT -5
If I did people will say I am crazy..Being responsible for the 911, Hurricane Harvey, the shooting massacre in Last Vegas... The week before last Father Joe made a big deal out of the first reading. He made a point of telling us all that it was our "homework". He made us repeat after him to remember it : "Isiah, 55, 6-9". I had high expectations of when E' finally got around to explaining context. I didn't think anyone would be confused about it. Anywhere, ever again. Oh well. E' isn't saying that you are God in the sense that we pray to Him each Sunday, but E' is saying that the only way to create the appearance that you are separate from, that you are other to God, is by an illusion. That illusion is at the root of the sins of 9/11 and L.V., but God has no capacity to hate a sinner. There's no denying that people suffered because of Harvey, but if you think God is indifferent to that or happy about it, there's always the our father. The trick of the mind here is to think of God as a personality that you can predict and understand and respond to based on what you know of yourself and other men. That trick is why I suspect Joe gave us that homework. What if there are really God/god existing in this forum and are the one's responsible for creating super cyclones, earthquakes and massacres? We know that God/god is compassionate but God/god could also be vengeful. There is maybe a God/god of love existing yet this God/god can't do anything to stop the destruction and killing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 18:00:23 GMT -5
The people that will say you are crazy don't know their own truth, and that is fine.. you will be the man that they know you as. People that know their truth let you live in your love. There are literally crazy people roaming the streets. But what about them telling about us? The insane thinks they are not crazy but us. We the sane thinks the insane are crazy. Telling people he is responsible for 911, Hurricane Harvey and the massacre in Las Vegas because he is God in the form of Siva is crazy thing. But there could be truth in it. There is no truth in the idea that any one human is responsible for a global or national catastrophy. Did you build the hotel that Stephen Paddock stayed in for four days? No. Were you the owner of the gun stores where he bought the nearly 40 firearms that he owned. No. Or were you the head of the hotels security that didn't know a man had brought in 20 automatic weapons into their premises? No. So take care of what you can, what's in front of you in your life.. and don't trouble yourself with the dreams or nightmares of people that you will never meet. If one man or woman had been profoundly kind to Mr Paddock during those 4 days in his hotel room, perhaps none of us would have ever known his name.
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Post by enigma on Oct 3, 2017 18:21:43 GMT -5
Why do you want another question? I don't. I just thought that was the game we were playing.
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Post by enigma on Oct 3, 2017 18:22:55 GMT -5
Nonduality simply says that the self and God have always been one. There is no becoming. Only those that abide in their self-nature can know that though. Sure.
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Post by laughter on Oct 3, 2017 18:23:44 GMT -5
The week before last Father Joe made a big deal out of the first reading. He made a point of telling us all that it was our "homework". He made us repeat after him to remember it : "Isiah, 55, 6-9". I had high expectations of when E' finally got around to explaining context. I didn't think anyone would be confused about it. Anywhere, ever again. Oh well. E' isn't saying that you are God in the sense that we pray to Him each Sunday, but E' is saying that the only way to create the appearance that you are separate from, that you are other to God, is by an illusion. That illusion is at the root of the sins of 9/11 and L.V., but God has no capacity to hate a sinner. There's no denying that people suffered because of Harvey, but if you think God is indifferent to that or happy about it, there's always the our father. The trick of the mind here is to think of God as a personality that you can predict and understand and respond to based on what you know of yourself and other men. That trick is why I suspect Joe gave us that homework. What if there are really God/god existing in this forum and are the one's responsible for creating super cyclones, earthquakes and massacres? We know that God/god is compassionate but God/god could also be vengeful. There is maybe a God/god of love existing yet this God/god can't do anything to stop the destruction and killing. Life has been presenting those questions for as long as there have been people. I don't have any answer for you that can be defended by intellect. You might try praying to that God of love, or you can go about seeking answers a different way. A way that involves looking inward toward where those questions emerge.
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Post by krsnaraja on Oct 3, 2017 18:24:26 GMT -5
There are literally crazy people roaming the streets. But what about them telling about us? The insane thinks they are not crazy but us. We the sane thinks the insane are crazy. Telling people he is responsible for 911, Hurricane Harvey and the massacre in Las Vegas because he is God in the form of Siva is crazy thing. But there could be truth in it. There is no truth in the idea that any one human is responsible for a global or national catastrophy. Did you build the hotel that Stephen Paddock stayed in for four days? No. Were you the owner of the gun stores where he bought the nearly 40 firearms that he owned. No. Or were you the head of the hotels security that didn't know a man had brought in 20 automatic weapons into their premises? No. So take care of what you can, what's in front of you in your life.. and don't trouble yourself with the dreams or nightmares of people that you will never meet. If one man or woman had been profoundly kind to Mr Paddock during those 4 days in his hotel room, perhaps none of us would have ever known his name. God is present in the heart of everyone. He could have a hand in telling Paddock to massacre the people in Las Vegas by influencing his mind to do such a dastardly thing. So we ask why God do that way. We can not fathom the mind of God why He does these things e.g. creating Hurricane Harvey or influence the minds of people to kill. Who can question God? God can do anything He pleases.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 18:53:46 GMT -5
There is no truth in the idea that any one human is responsible for a global or national catastrophy. Did you build the hotel that Stephen Paddock stayed in for four days? No. Were you the owner of the gun stores where he bought the nearly 40 firearms that he owned. No. Or were you the head of the hotels security that didn't know a man had brought in 20 automatic weapons into their premises? No. So take care of what you can, what's in front of you in your life.. and don't trouble yourself with the dreams or nightmares of people that you will never meet. If one man or woman had been profoundly kind to Mr Paddock during those 4 days in his hotel room, perhaps none of us would have ever known his name. God is present in the heart of everyone. He could have a hand in telling Paddock to massacre the people in Las Vegas by influencing his mind to do such a dastardly thing. So we ask why God do that way. We can not fathom the mind of God why He does these things e.g. creating Hurricane Harvey or influence the minds of people to kill. Who can question God? God can do anything He pleases. You're still trying to put God into a personal role. It isn't that. It's the sound of the musicians playing, it's the sound of the gunfire, it's the crowd thinking that the gunfire is fireworks. It's the screams of the crowd when they realise they are being shot at. God is the silence at the end of the 9 minutes of death.
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Post by krsnaraja on Oct 3, 2017 19:31:40 GMT -5
God is present in the heart of everyone. He could have a hand in telling Paddock to massacre the people in Las Vegas by influencing his mind to do such a dastardly thing. So we ask why God do that way. We can not fathom the mind of God why He does these things e.g. creating Hurricane Harvey or influence the minds of people to kill. Who can question God? God can do anything He pleases. You're still trying to put God into a personal role. It isn't that. It's the sound of the musicians playing, it's the sound of the gunfire, it's the crowd thinking that the gunfire is fireworks. It's the screams of the crowd when they realise they are being shot at. God is the silence at the end of the 9 minutes of death. God in the Vedic scriptures is Vasudeva, the Cause of all causes. God can directly kill his enemies in the likes of Kamsa & Putana. God has no remorse killing anybody. God knows it's only the body that is killed. The self/soul can not be killed. Once the body dies, the self/soul from within takes another body. Those who got killed in the Las Vegas massacre are their bodies that got killed. But their selves/souls are not. They got killed maybe of their past karma. Paddock the killer also has this past karma to settle with those he killed. From within Paddock is God the paramatma who allowed the shooter to shoot those attending the concert in Las Vegas. Man proposes God disposes. Nothing that happens in this world does not have a hand of God. So, the only way for us to be happy is surrender to God and pray God will be merciful to us.
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Post by krsnaraja on Oct 3, 2017 19:55:00 GMT -5
What if there are really God/god existing in this forum and are the one's responsible for creating super cyclones, earthquakes and massacres? We know that God/god is compassionate but God/god could also be vengeful. There is maybe a God/god of love existing yet this God/god can't do anything to stop the destruction and killing. Life has been presenting those questions for as long as there have been people. I don't have any answer for you that can be defended by intellect. You might try praying to that God of love, or you can go about seeking answers a different way. A way that involves looking inward toward where those questions emerge. Prior to this self-realization thing, I was into the charismatic movement evangelizing the word of God in Holy Bible. Yet I could not find the answers to most of my questions. It was only when a childhood friend, Gaurasundara das lend me his books, The Teachings of Lord Chaitanya, the Bhagavadgita As It Is & 64 volumes of Srimad Bhagavatam that all my questions were answered after months of deep reflection. The answer to the mysteries in the Holy Bible unfolded before me when I refer them to these Vedic Scriptures. I did not have to go through the long process by what you do to become self-realized. There are lots of speculation in the realm of non-dualism. Like sifting the chaff from the grain. All I have to do is take what is written in Srimad Bhagavatam what it says. The literature is credible and authoritative. The teachings/writings are handed down from God himself via the parampara system/disciplic succession.
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Post by enigma on Oct 3, 2017 21:20:33 GMT -5
The week before last Father Joe made a big deal out of the first reading. He made a point of telling us all that it was our "homework". He made us repeat after him to remember it : "Isiah, 55, 6-9". I had high expectations of when E' finally got around to explaining context. I didn't think anyone would be confused about it. Anywhere, ever again. Oh well. E' isn't saying that you are God in the sense that we pray to Him each Sunday, but E' is saying that the only way to create the appearance that you are separate from, that you are other to God, is by an illusion. That illusion is at the root of the sins of 9/11 and L.V., but God has no capacity to hate a sinner. There's no denying that people suffered because of Harvey, but if you think God is indifferent to that or happy about it, there's always the our father. The trick of the mind here is to think of God as a personality that you can predict and understand and respond to based on what you know of yourself and other men. That trick is why I suspect Joe gave us that homework. What if there are really God/god existing in this forum and are the one's responsible for creating super cyclones, earthquakes and massacres? We know that God/god is compassionate but God/god could also be vengeful. There is maybe a God/god of love existing yet this God/god can't do anything to stop the destruction and killing. Hence the dilemma of giving God a personality.
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Post by enigma on Oct 3, 2017 21:30:43 GMT -5
Life has been presenting those questions for as long as there have been people. I don't have any answer for you that can be defended by intellect. You might try praying to that God of love, or you can go about seeking answers a different way. A way that involves looking inward toward where those questions emerge. Prior to this self-realization thing, I was into the charismatic movement evangelizing the word of God in Holy Bible. Yet I could not find the answers to most of my questions. It was only when a childhood friend, Gaurasundara das lend me his books, The Teachings of Lord Chaitanya, the Bhagavadgita As It Is & 64 volumes of Srimad Bhagavatam that all my questions were answered after months of deep reflection. The answer to the mysteries in the Holy Bible unfolded before me when I refer them to these Vedic Scriptures. I did not have to go through the long process by what you do to become self-realized. There are lots of speculation in the realm of non-dualism. Like sifting the chaff from the grain. All I have to do is take what is written in Srimad Bhagavatam what it says. The literature is credible and authoritative. The teachings/writings are handed down from God himself via the parampara system/disciplic succession. Then answer this one: "So we ask why God do that way. We can not fathom the mind of God why He does these things e.g. creating Hurricane Harvey or influence the minds of people to kill."
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