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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 1:47:13 GMT -5
Yeah.. in girlie bars.
Couldn't resist, you were begging for it  Sooo... if what you are saying is true it means you are not prone to temptation. Why does everyone always think about tantric sex. You are most comfortable with a bare stripped down formless Advaita. I know. You have been reading too much Jed. Believe it or not - tantric se hadn't even occurred to me when I wrote that. You were talking about the form, and I thought of all those hot young bodies, that's all. I read Jed once, and not in a stable state of mind then. I don't remember much of it at all. Everything, down to the last letter I say here - has been OWNED by me, derived through my own process, every conclusion, every feeling, every insight that lead to understanding and Knowing. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 2:11:43 GMT -5
FFS Tano.. he's talked to you about feelings before and you dissed him.
I see you, but I don't understand people like you. You really want to think that you're fireless don't you? Why is that? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 2:32:10 GMT -5
Why do you want to start the fire when there is none?
I see you, but I don't understand people like you. You really want to think that you're fireless don't you? Why is that? Fireless! Good word. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 2:41:16 GMT -5
Why do you want to start the fire when there is none?
I see you, but I don't understand people like you. You really want to think that you're fireless don't you? Why is that? I have plenty of fire. I get passionate about various things, it always changes and moves. The difference between you and I is that I directly approach people with fire and directly answer or ask questions. You do it by stealth. I do not attempt to put a wedge between humans in the way you do. This is why I called you 'starting a fire'. There is something unacceptable to me in the way you interact. You have a lot of reverence for Jed. Then you know what he does it cases like that, has always done.. he amputates. Stop following me around like a dog. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 2:57:13 GMT -5
You really want to think that you're fireless don't you? Why is that? I have plenty of fire. I get passionate about various things, it always changes and moves. The difference between you and I is that I directly approach people with fire and directly answer or ask questions. You do it by stealth. I do not attempt to put a wedge between humans in the way you do. This is why I called you 'starting a fire'. There is something unacceptable to me in the way you interact. You have a lot of reverence for Jed. Then you know what he does it cases like that, has always done.. he amputates. Stop following me around like a dog. I'm happy to have given you an opportunity to compare yourself to me in such favourable ways. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 2:57:51 GMT -5
You really want to think that you're fireless don't you? Why is that? Fireless! Good word. Wanna know how I put it together? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 3:02:23 GMT -5
Wanna know how I put it together? Fire + Less ? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 3:04:29 GMT -5
Wanna know how I put it together? Fire + Less ? Yeah man. Bang on!  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 4:49:45 GMT -5
I have kept this thread completely intact. Perhaps, it will give people a more balanced, less of a one sided view of who Jed is, instead of fairytales created in the past twenty years of secrecy that surrounds him. Then people can decide from that. What I have conveyed here is - as is, with absolutely tangible proof. Which, of course, I shall keep to my Self  It will also add further to Jed's mystery by way of controversy, and as he said... 'controversy is good for business'. Regardless of everything I want him to thrive as a human being. Always. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 6:30:40 GMT -5
I have kept this thread completely intact. Perhaps, it will give people a more balanced, less of a one sided view of who Jed is, instead of fairytales created in the past twenty years of secrecy that surrounds him. Then people can decide from that. What I have conveyed here is - as is, with absolutely tangible proof. Which, of course, I shall keep to my Self It will also add further to Jed's mystery by way of controversy, and as he said... 'controversy is good for business'. Regardless of everything I want him to thrive as a human being. Always. I'm not sure your mission to use this forum to exorcise your Jed demons could be called a success. You can't claim to paint a more balanced view of Jed without his input and right of reply. And what use is your tangible proof you mention but keep to yourself? I would have to ask Jed. He might say, well let me tell you about this tano chick I met in a girlie bar once. Boy does she need help! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 14:23:43 GMT -5
There are only three people here who I could say remain real.
Stardustpilgrim
Penny
Andrew
Ironically, none of them claim to be 'enlightened'. If you could just SEE just how much of a lie this whole enlightenment gig is, and just how much of a lie a human is - you would run for the hills. The rest here are playing at enlightenment game. Why? Because they have invested THAT much in it, YEARS AND YEARS in some cases; it has become their new identity and a new character.
Now, Jed said many many times 'All is LIe'. He even said this to me:
"I concur on the insurance thing. It's a scam... wait... I'm a scam... you're a scam, we're all scams... little wonder insurance arose."
And he meant it in the BIGGEST SENSE OF THE WORD. But of course, no one believes it, I know I didn't, just words, right? He simply went back and joined the game selling it to the gullible. F=Delapidation age is approaching, and here it can cost you an arm and a leg if you want to survive after a visit to a doctor. One of his today's quips was '..... and the dream continues...'
That's his business, but unfortunately, the same has been happening for GENERATIONS, and people are so damn blind they cannot see they are being sold a turkey. They will part with anything to 'get there', they keep paying big bucks - for NOTHING. There is nothing at the end of it all. Nothing at all, no bliss, no happy ever after, but that's not the problem. The problem is that every teacher KNOWS this inside out. But people want to be sold 'gentle and kind', because they don't see much of it around. They WANT to be sold a promise of love, because there isn't much in their lives. They will do whatever it takes, and that's the nature of The Infinite Game that Jed once recommended to me: it never ends, new desperate unhappy humans come in and ask for something they believe they don't have. New humans are born every day, the future slaves to the system and the cleverest in the system. It is infinite indeed. The way Jed runs his game is this: no one person under his influence has any access to any other person. All are isolated, cannot talk and therefore share any information. The system is completely closed, with the only communication directly between him and the person. His email heading reads 'Jim Jones'. Americans should know the name well.
Here on the forum most old timers are too vested in the 'idea' that they are TR, or the 'idea' of the search itself for those who are seeking. I can tell you what each 'teacher' gets out of teaching, besides the money.. an enormous sense of satisfaction, which comes from feeling importance. Yes, as simpe as that, because otherwise, every human is a little nothing floating in the little nothing called 'Eternity Train'.. who can blame them when there are two birds killed with one stone: a sense of importance and money?
It is A LIE. Anyone who tells you otherwise - is a conman/woman. Yes, once seen - it is ordinary, mundane, sometimes blissful, sometimes sad, sometimes excited.. like it has ALWAYS been. There is no difference, except psychological stability and readiness for Death in whatever shape and form it may come. THAT'S IT. The rest remains, the world with its troublesome past, present and future, the humans who have so much to hide that they will sell one another down the river if the deal is good enough or if the non conformists attempt to speak up.. all operates in qliques, with corresponding mob mentality and inabilty to stand alone... the nature which created that abomination: human self awareness... Self Awareness - look what we are doing with it!
Not only that. but everything is A LIE. Everybody around you is a lie. Why? Because you have NEVER seen their real face. Ever. Very very few humans are open. The rest carry themselves like little fortresses, armor upon armor of defense, and that includes - YOU.
Regarding Jed and proof... I have it, I am not parting with it, and it is well secured. It is as simple as that.
Trust Self only. Are these words not self evident? Think of all those times you have been let down by another human being. Jed has learned this real well, hence, his levels of mistrust are phenomenal. Hence, the secrecy, the hiding, the mystery. That is not the only reason why, but it is one of the most important reasons.
So what the hell are you looking for? Dump all the 'teachings', leave all the books behind. Like Jed said: laugh, kiss the next person you see, have a good curry, breathe.
Satch, for you specifically.. you know what/who you are. Sit with it in your most honest inner moment. 'It' is not going anywhere anytime soon. It is eternal, and you are stuck with it. And when you have your chat with Jed.. tell him I sent you. He's got his tentacles in you already. He refers to people as octopuses with tentacles. His inner disdain for humans is just as much as what I have now. We landed exactly in the same spot. But he has to sell books, and so pretend, the Great Pretender. Everything he has ever told me - turned out to be a lie or a bigged up version of truth.
And Penny.. you are dealing with men,, and as one very wise old man told me: 'It is clear to me that no male under the sun will ever be able to tame their ego. It will always manifest'.
There is NO truth. Once you see that.. the world is your oyster, as it is for Jed. You can become, be - anything. The question is.... What will you become? Sofar, the closest image to the enlightened person is The Joker in Batman movies.
I have seen so much light it hurts. And I think to myself.. it's a wonderful world.
Cheers.
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Post by tenka on Apr 4, 2017 14:28:41 GMT -5
If one's expression is everything is a lie .. then equally so one's expression could be everything is Love .
See the difference?
What possesses someone to come from such an angle that everything is a lie ..
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 14:39:05 GMT -5
If one's expression is everything is a lie .. then equally so one's expression could be everything is Love . See the difference? What possesses someone to come from such an angle that everything is a lie .. Tenka, how do I know? How does Jed know? Because if a human were Love... we would be living in a very different world. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 15:04:44 GMT -5
There are only three people here who I could say remain real.
Stardustpilgrim
Penny
Andrew
Ironically, none of them claim to be 'enlightened'. If you could just SEE just how much of a lie this whole enlightenment gig is, and just how much of a lie a human is - you would run for the hills. The rest here are playing at enlightenment game. Why? Because they have invested THAT much in it, YEARS AND YEARS in some cases; it has become their new identity and a new character.
Now, Jed said many many times 'All is LIe'. He even said this to me:
"I concur on the insurance thing. It's a scam... wait... I'm a scam... you're a scam, we're all scams... little wonder insurance arose."
And he meant it in the BIGGEST SENSE OF THE WORD. But of course, no one believes it, I know I didn't, just words, right? He simply went back and joined the game selling it to the gullible. F=Delapidation age is approaching, and here it can cost you an arm and a leg if you want to survive after a visit to a doctor. One of his today's quips was '..... and the dream continues...'
That's his business, but unfortunately, the same has been happening for GENERATIONS, and people are so darn blind they cannot see they are being sold a turkey. They will part with anything to 'get there', they keep paying big bucks - for NOTHING. There is nothing at the end of it all. Nothing at all, no bliss, no happy ever after, but that's not the problem. The problem is that every teacher KNOWS this inside out. But people want to be sold 'gentle and kind', because they don't see much of it around. They WANT to be sold a promise of love, because there isn't much in their lives. They will do whatever it takes, and that's the nature of The Infinite Game that Jed once recommended to me: it never ends, new desperate unhappy humans come in and ask for something they believe they don't have. New humans are born every day, the future slaves to the system and the cleverest in the system. It is infinite indeed. The way Jed runs his game is this: no one person under his influence has any access to any other person. All are isolated, cannot talk and therefore share any information. The system is completely closed, with the only communication directly between him and the person. His email heading reads 'Jim Jones'. Americans should know the name well.
Here on the forum most old timers are too vested in the 'idea' that they are TR, or the 'idea' of the search itself for those who are seeking. I can tell you what each 'teacher' gets out of teaching, besides the money.. an enormous sense of satisfaction, which comes from feeling importance. Yes, as simpe as that, because otherwise, every human is a little nothing floating in the little nothing called 'Eternity Train'.. who can blame them when there are two birds killed with one stone: a sense of importance and money?
It is A LIE. Anyone who tells you otherwise - is a conman/woman. Yes, once seen - it is ordinary, mundane, sometimes blissful, sometimes sad, sometimes excited.. like it has ALWAYS been. There is no difference, except psychological stability and readiness for Death in whatever shape and form it may come. THAT'S IT. The rest remains, the world with its troublesome past, present and future, the humans who have so much to hide that they will sell one another down the river if the deal is good enough or if the non conformists attempt to speak up.. all operates in qliques, with corresponding mob mentality and inabilty to stand alone... the nature which created that abomination: human self awareness... Self Awareness - look what we are doing with it!
Not only that. but everything is A LIE. Everybody around you is a lie. Why? Because you have NEVER seen their real face. Ever. Very very few humans are open. The rest carry themselves like little fortresses, armor upon armor of defense, and that includes - YOU.
Regarding Jed and proof... I have it, I am not parting with it, and it is well secured. It is as simple as that.
Trust Self only. Are these words not self evident? Think of all those times you have been let down by another human being. Jed has learned this real well, hence, his levels of mistrust are phenomenal. Hence, the secrecy, the hiding, the mystery. That is not the only reason why, but it is one of the most important reasons.
So what the hell are you looking for? Dump all the 'teachings', leave all the books behind. Like Jed said: laugh, kiss the next person you see, have a good curry, breathe.
Satch, for you specifically.. you know what/who you are. Sit with it in your most honest inner moment. 'It' is not going anywhere anytime soon. It is eternal, and you are stuck with it. And when you have your chat with Jed.. tell him I sent you. He's got his tentacles in you already. He refers to people as octopuses with tentacles. His inner disdain for humans is just as much as what I have now. We landed exactly in the same spot. But he has to sell books, and so pretend, the Great Pretender. Everything he has ever told me - turned out to be a lie or a bigged up version of truth.
And Penny.. you are dealing with men,, and as one very wise old man told me: 'It is clear to me that no male under the sun will ever be able to tame their ego. It will always manifest'.
There is NO truth. Once you see that.. the world is your oyster, as it is for Jed. You can become, be - anything. The question is.... What will you become? Sofar, the closest image to the enlightened person is The Joker in Batman movies.
I have seen so much light it hurts. And I think to myself.. it's a wonderful world.
Cheers.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 15:45:32 GMT -5
There are only three people here who I could say remain real.
Stardustpilgrim
Penny
Andrew
Ironically, none of them claim to be 'enlightened'. If you could just SEE just how much of a lie this whole enlightenment gig is, and just how much of a lie a human is - you would run for the hills. The rest here are playing at enlightenment game. Why? Because they have invested THAT much in it, YEARS AND YEARS in some cases; it has become their new identity and a new character.
Now, Jed said many many times 'All is LIe'. He even said this to me:
"I concur on the insurance thing. It's a scam... wait... I'm a scam... you're a scam, we're all scams... little wonder insurance arose."
And he meant it in the BIGGEST SENSE OF THE WORD. But of course, no one believes it, I know I didn't, just words, right? He simply went back and joined the game selling it to the gullible. F=Delapidation age is approaching, and here it can cost you an arm and a leg if you want to survive after a visit to a doctor. One of his today's quips was '..... and the dream continues...'
That's his business, but unfortunately, the same has been happening for GENERATIONS, and people are so darn blind they cannot see they are being sold a turkey. They will part with anything to 'get there', they keep paying big bucks - for NOTHING. There is nothing at the end of it all. Nothing at all, no bliss, no happy ever after, but that's not the problem. The problem is that every teacher KNOWS this inside out. But people want to be sold 'gentle and kind', because they don't see much of it around. They WANT to be sold a promise of love, because there isn't much in their lives. They will do whatever it takes, and that's the nature of The Infinite Game that Jed once recommended to me: it never ends, new desperate unhappy humans come in and ask for something they believe they don't have. New humans are born every day, the future slaves to the system and the cleverest in the system. It is infinite indeed. The way Jed runs his game is this: no one person under his influence has any access to any other person. All are isolated, cannot talk and therefore share any information. The system is completely closed, with the only communication directly between him and the person. His email heading reads 'Jim Jones'. Americans should know the name well.
Here on the forum most old timers are too vested in the 'idea' that they are TR, or the 'idea' of the search itself for those who are seeking. I can tell you what each 'teacher' gets out of teaching, besides the money.. an enormous sense of satisfaction, which comes from feeling importance. Yes, as simpe as that, because otherwise, every human is a little nothing floating in the little nothing called 'Eternity Train'.. who can blame them when there are two birds killed with one stone: a sense of importance and money?
It is A LIE. Anyone who tells you otherwise - is a conman/woman. Yes, once seen - it is ordinary, mundane, sometimes blissful, sometimes sad, sometimes excited.. like it has ALWAYS been. There is no difference, except psychological stability and readiness for Death in whatever shape and form it may come. THAT'S IT. The rest remains, the world with its troublesome past, present and future, the humans who have so much to hide that they will sell one another down the river if the deal is good enough or if the non conformists attempt to speak up.. all operates in qliques, with corresponding mob mentality and inabilty to stand alone... the nature which created that abomination: human self awareness... Self Awareness - look what we are doing with it!
Not only that. but everything is A LIE. Everybody around you is a lie. Why? Because you have NEVER seen their real face. Ever. Very very few humans are open. The rest carry themselves like little fortresses, armor upon armor of defense, and that includes - YOU.
Regarding Jed and proof... I have it, I am not parting with it, and it is well secured. It is as simple as that.
Trust Self only. Are these words not self evident? Think of all those times you have been let down by another human being. Jed has learned this real well, hence, his levels of mistrust are phenomenal. Hence, the secrecy, the hiding, the mystery. That is not the only reason why, but it is one of the most important reasons.
So what the hell are you looking for? Dump all the 'teachings', leave all the books behind. Like Jed said: laugh, kiss the next person you see, have a good curry, breathe.
Satch, for you specifically.. you know what/who you are. Sit with it in your most honest inner moment. 'It' is not going anywhere anytime soon. It is eternal, and you are stuck with it. And when you have your chat with Jed.. tell him I sent you. He's got his tentacles in you already. He refers to people as octopuses with tentacles. His inner disdain for humans is just as much as what I have now. We landed exactly in the same spot. But he has to sell books, and so pretend, the Great Pretender. Everything he has ever told me - turned out to be a lie or a bigged up version of truth.
And Penny.. you are dealing with men,, and as one very wise old man told me: 'It is clear to me that no male under the sun will ever be able to tame their ego. It will always manifest'.
There is NO truth. Once you see that.. the world is your oyster, as it is for Jed. You can become, be - anything. The question is.... What will you become? Sofar, the closest image to the enlightened person is The Joker in Batman movies.
I have seen so much light it hurts. And I think to myself.. it's a wonderful world.
Cheers.
Bakk, it is reasonable to suggest that you are reacting in this way because you are in some way connected to Jed, either as his student or someone who has fascination with and a belief in what he is doing. If you are his student... your reaction itself is telling about the kind of people he attracts. There was nothing remotely humane in what you wrote. And all that trouble you went into to make it. Interesting. If you are someone with a long standing admiration.. perhaps, you could drop all your beliefs (after all that's what Jed tells everyone) and see why it causes you to take such interesting actions. |
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