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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 2:39:48 GMT -5
Return to England now. Your boy needs his Mother. I don't see how it is your concern.However, I can see why your quoted my entire OP for just two short sentences of your reply. Bakk, some of the things you say make sense. Unfortunately, you also b*llsh*t with people by way of attempting to play games. This is not acceptable to me, so best we do not communicate from now on. Thank you. Well the party is clearly over between you and 'Jed' now, and that's why you're back in here. I do know that it's none of my business how any mother treats her children, though I also know that there is a love in all children for their mother that always wants expression.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 3:15:21 GMT -5
Well the party is clearly over between you and 'Jed' now, and that's why you're back in here. I do know that it's none of my business how any mother treats her children, though I also know that there is a love in all children for their mother that always wants expression. I will always love Jed, no matter what his personal weaknesses are. But I tend to recoil from some things, it is inbuilt and cannot be changed. In that sense.. yes, the 'party' is over. There are four people in my life whom I will always love in that way. One of them is my son. If he wants to express - he will express. We both have an exquisite sense of timing (not time, but timing). It is as simple as that. If he needs help, and I am able to help - I will, it is as simple as that. He knows that. I would do the same for those four people, including Jed. The way you construct your phrases, the way you use emotive metaphorical language, the way you imply meanings without saying anything directly - is indicative of a deep seated sense of dissatisfaction. I perceive you as harbouring resentment. Why.. I cannot know. You have done it in all your communication here, from what I can see. Occasionally you come up with something valid and real, but it is diminished by the presentation, lack of directness, hiding. You are playing games, whether consciously or unconsciously. I am curious as to why, and what drives you.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 3:49:42 GMT -5
Well the party is clearly over between you and 'Jed' now, and that's why you're back in here. I do know that it's none of my business how any mother treats her children, though I also know that there is a love in all children for their mother that always wants expression. I will always love Jed, no matter what his personal weaknesses are. But I tend to recoil from some things, it is inbuilt and cannot be changed. In that sense.. yes, the 'party' is over. There are four people in my life whom I will always love in that way. One of them is my son. If he wants to express - he will express. We both have an exquisite sense of timing (not time, but timing). It is as simple as that. If he needs help, and I am able to help - I will, it is as simple as that. He knows that. I would do the same for those four people, including Jed. The way you construct your phrases, the way you use emotive metaphorical language, the way you imply meanings without saying anything directly - is indicative of a deep seated sense of dissatisfaction. I perceive you as harbouring resentment. Why.. I cannot know. You have done it in all your communication here, from what I can see. Occasionally you come up with something valid and real, but it is diminished by the presentation, lack of directness, hiding. You are playing games, whether consciously or unconsciously. I am curious as to why, and what drives you. Ok. I'm always disturbed by people that claim to be students of the Dove, while simultaneously saying that they despise people. You're clearly here to learn more about what Human Adulthood can mean. Dropping the teenage arrogance is obviously an aspect of it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 4:08:39 GMT -5
Ok. I'm always disturbed by people that claim to be students of the Dove, while simultaneously saying that they despise people. You're clearly here to learn more about what Human Adulthood can mean. Dropping the teenage arrogance is obviously an aspect of it. I don't claim to be a student of the Dove. What does it mean? I love people and I despise people. I can say it a million times, it will not change. Why both? Because humans are both the Light and The Darkness. One has to go beyond the convention of 'spiritual' teachings and return to what it is to be human. What it is to see both and accept it for what it is. What it is to know, yet have enough courage to say exactly how one feels about Humanity, without sugar coating and without following conventional expectations of what it means to be 'spiritual'. There is one person here who understands that - Stardustpilgrim. Jed is perceived as arrogant, because he is direct.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 4:14:51 GMT -5
Ok. I'm always disturbed by people that claim to be students of the Dove, while simultaneously saying that they despise people. You're clearly here to learn more about what Human Adulthood can mean. Dropping the teenage arrogance is obviously an aspect of it. I don't claim to be a student of the Dove. What does it mean? I love people and I despise people. I can say it a million times, it will not change. Why both? Because humans are both the Light and The Darkness. One has to go beyond the convention of 'spiritual' teachings and return to what it is to be human. What it is to see both and accept it for what it is. What it is to know, yet have enough courage to say exactly how one feels about Humanity, without sugar coating and without following conventional expectations of what it means to be 'spiritual'. There is one person here who understands that - Stardustpilgrim. Jed is perceived as arrogant, because he is direct. Ok. Don't worry about it then. "Because humans are both the Light and The Darkness." ~ What does that mean?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 4:31:29 GMT -5
I don't claim to be a student of the Dove. What does it mean? I love people and I despise people. I can say it a million times, it will not change. Why both? Because humans are both the Light and The Darkness. One has to go beyond the convention of 'spiritual' teachings and return to what it is to be human. What it is to see both and accept it for what it is. What it is to know, yet have enough courage to say exactly how one feels about Humanity, without sugar coating and without following conventional expectations of what it means to be 'spiritual'. There is one person here who understands that - Stardustpilgrim. Jed is perceived as arrogant, because he is direct. Ok. Don't worry about it then. "Because humans are both the Light and The Darkness." ~ What does that mean? Answer my question first>>> I don't claim to be a student of the Dove. What does it mean?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 4:50:27 GMT -5
Ok. Don't worry about it then. "Because humans are both the Light and The Darkness." ~ What does that mean? Answer my question first>>> I don't claim to be a student of the Dove. What does it mean?What does being a student of the Dove mean. It doesn't mean anything. It's just a metaphor.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 5:40:52 GMT -5
Answer my question first>>> I don't claim to be a student of the Dove. What does it mean?What does being a student of the Dove mean. It doesn't mean anything. It's just a metaphor. If it means nothing, why is it expressed? It adds no value to interaction and serves to obscure Clarity.
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Post by krsnaraja on Apr 1, 2017 6:18:49 GMT -5
Bakk and Ta, noh? are one yet simultaneously different.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 8:51:13 GMT -5
Bakk and Ta, noh? are one yet simultaneously different. How do you know?
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Post by krsnaraja on Apr 1, 2017 17:32:33 GMT -5
Bakk and Ta, noh? are one yet simultaneously different. How do you know? Because I felt it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 4:19:27 GMT -5
If you felt it - it doesn't need Bakk and Ta as the symbols of what you felt. You simply felt something. What did you feel?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 5:27:20 GMT -5
Of course, people get burnt when encounting what is. The burn is as much an expression of their inherent expectations of what they will 'find' in the ned of it all, as the expression of utter disappointment with teachers who KNOW there is nothing to find.. but take you there anyway.
Jed deleted it within two hours, together with the user and his (innocuous) thread. He is very vigillant when it comes to policing the forum. But I have read the expression of every forum member in the past 2.5 years, and saved some.
'Nothing' is a profitable business. It is funny, because a few years ago I was THAT serious, that I could have parted with everything just to get 'there'. Thankfully, the common sense of Self - prevailed.
Gullible me « on: Today at 02:39:37 am »
i was gullible enough to believe that there was something I could do to become untruth unrealised. It was comforting and exciting to find Jeds books. And talking to Jed personally gave me a feeling that 'I' was special and the belief that I was a worthy candidate for adulthood or enlightenment or whatever...deluded deluded confused...and you knew it Jed McKenna!..and you ushered me into a secluded corner and asked for money. And I gave it to you. You surely know full well that there is not one single **** thing that anyone ever has done to become enlightened or grow up and become a human adult...or any other **** well spiritual **** bullshit title!. Oneness!!!....no separation...no free will...no control...AND NEVER WAS! AND NEVER WAS....and so it seems that the nav series and the forum a place where weird **** spiritual egos what ever the **** they are, get together and have a big communal ego wank. And as for a journey!!!...god damn you!!!!...there is NO ONE TO BE ON ONE!....couldn't you be a little more careful and give a purely non seperate message to your poor confused congregation. And as for manifestation!!!....Jed siddious...ego nurturer...'I' suggest you manifest yourself the money next time and don't get it from your most gullible or should I say serious students. Good bye Maya...oops I mean Jed Love ya Nick
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 8:03:10 GMT -5
I have sent Jed a link to this thread today.
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Post by krsnaraja on Apr 2, 2017 17:49:56 GMT -5
If you felt it - it doesn't need Bakk and Ta as the symbols of what you felt. You simply felt something. What did you feel? I been wondering the name Bakk and what this means. I also been wondering the name Tano and what that means. Bakk sounds to me as Bach, a renowned musician. Or it could be the Burt Bacharach, the famous composer of the song, " A House is not a Home " sang by Dionne Warwick. But all these are speculations. As for the name Tano, I can not find any that relates. There is a word Otan in our dialect that means vegetable. So, to cut the story short, I joined the name Bakk and Tano. There is a word Bhakta which means devotional. In other words, I felt, Bakk and Ta ( without the no ) is one and the same person but their views however differ like that movie I watched. " Split. "
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