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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2016 23:41:35 GMT -5
So yesterday you didn't know if you were awake and today it's SR? Wow! Not at all you need to read what I wrote. I said I don't think I am awake on purpose..you see you can never think your awake you are awake or not and that comes from knowing Don't worry about all this it doesn't serve you  Now you're playing games. I already quoted what you actually said. Right now you're trying to tell yourself that your ego shouldn't be going on the defensive if you're supposed to be realized. You have had some deep experiences of transcending, but don't make the same mistake I did many years ago when I thought I was done. I already told you about this and you seemed to appreciate what I said at the time. Now you have entered the world of a spirituality forum where everyone is jostling for position and trying to prove to themselves and others that they know something. It seems you are now getting caught up in the dynamics of that. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2016 23:56:13 GMT -5
Not at all you need to read what I wrote. I said I don't think I am awake on purpose..you see you can never think your awake you are awake or not and that comes from knowing Don't worry about all this it doesn't serve you Now you're playing games. I already quoted what you actually said. Right now you're trying to tell yourself that your ego shouldn't be going on the defensive if you're supposed to be realized. You have had some deep experiences of transcending, but don't make the same mistake I did many years ago when I thought I was done. I already told you about this and you seemed to appreciate what I said at the time. Now you have entered the world of a spirituality forum where everyone is jostling for position and trying to prove to themselves and others that they know something. It seems you are now getting caught up in the dynamics of that. Not at all I knew exactly what I meant when I said I don't think I am awake I knew that the peeps I guess that wht we cal them old peeps new peeps when they saw what I wrote would think they knew what I meant it was all on purpose so yes that part was a game. You see words are powerful you missed completely what I said when I used the word think but also E missed it you were reading what you wanted to see. However if you gave any thought about what I said you would catch it. Example being awake is like being hungry. If i am hungry i don't think I am hungry I am simply hungry. I don't go into a food place and say I think I'm hungry. I say I'm hungry. Something as simple like this so easy to get it wrong. It's why attention is so important.. I feel you have a lot of good qualities but you also have some loaded judgements which I saw today. It doesn't make you wrong or bad however any kind of loaded judgement will not serve you. One thing I realized after SR was in truth I know nothing and whatever the absolute wishes to happen will happen and there is never a bad good right wrong thing it just IS.. But if I am holding somekind of Judgement about anything it can begin to cloud the truth in some way instead of just allowing what to happen happen. If the Absolute wishes to have tons of people waking up by Tim then that will happen. Now can you see the folly if this is the absolute wish and we work against it. We would never win of course but still it doesn't serve you Peace I am still the same it just that i am a true person as you are. I just called you on some judgements thats all. I can careless lol about being defensive sometimes I am doesn't me you are not SR. But the reason for the length of this message is I feel you are a serious person that I care about thats all |
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Post by laughter on Nov 15, 2016 12:28:43 GMT -5
In that video Tim is giving the both/and conceptual answer to self-inquiry. For some people, this might be just what they need to hear at the moment to result in an insight that could expand and alter their perspective. For others, it might not have any impact or effect one way or the other. For yet another group though, it will be a place for them to rest their minds on a comfy cozy resolution to a paradox. Mind will find these paradoxes if it goes looking for the answer to existential questions. Each existential question and every answer are really all the same in the end, just in subtly different formations and arrangements of the mental furniture. While our perspective will always be subject to this sort of re-arrangement for as long as we live, what can and does come to an end though, is any existential questioning along the lines of "Who's Driving the Dream Bus?". Engagement with that question is the most precious opportunity a human being can encounter in the course of their lifetime. Pausing that process on a material answer of both/and is not the permanent end to it, but rather is only a false sense of arrival that suppresses the existential question. The peril of fundamentalism that seemed to disturb Tim can be found just as easily in the assumption that a pointer to the truth can and should relate to the day-to-day experience of a person in the world. Both/and is the sort of an idea that institutions are founded on, while the process of self-inquiry is, as he noted, subjective, never the same twice, and the answer isn't founded on or in any sort of conditioned knowledge or other movement of body or mind. Becoming comfortable with paradox is to settle on a very particular sort of conditioned knowledge. While this can be a powerful means to an end, as a end in and of itself, it is quite a diabolical plan for stealing treasure, and is, of course, as Lisa would say, just what is happening. |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Nov 15, 2016 13:54:37 GMT -5
So yesterday you didn't know if you were awake and today it's SR? Wow! Not at all you need to read what I wrote. I said I don't think I am awake on purpose..you see you can never think your awake you are awake or not and that comes from knowing Don't worry about all this it doesn't serve you You see words are powerful you missed completely what I said when I used the word think but also E missed it you were reading what you wanted to see. However if you gave any thought about what I said you would catch it. Example being awake is like being hungry. If i am hungry i don't think I am hungry I am simply hungry. I don't go into a food place and say I think I'm hungry. I say I'm hungry. Something as simple like this so easy to get it wrong. It's why attention is so important.. I feel you have a lot of good qualities but you also have some loaded judgements which I saw today. It doesn't make you wrong or bad however any kind of loaded judgement will not serve you. One thing I realized after SR was in truth I know nothing and whatever the absolute wishes to happen will happen and there is never a bad good right wrong thing it just IS.. But if I am holding somekind of Judgement about anything it can begin to cloud the truth in some way instead of just allowing what to happen happen. If the Absolute wishes to have tons of people waking up by Tim then that will happen. Now can you see the folly if this is the absolute wish and we work against it. We would never win of course but still it doesn't serve you Peace Saw that coming a mile away.  (Saw that, not who). |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Nov 15, 2016 13:56:25 GMT -5
Not at all you need to read what I wrote. I said I don't think I am awake on purpose..you see you can never think your awake you are awake or not and that comes from knowing Don't worry about all this it doesn't serve you Now you're playing games. I already quoted what you actually said. Right now you're trying to tell yourself that your ego shouldn't be going on the defensive if you're supposed to be realized. You have had some deep experiences of transcending, but don't make the same mistake I did many years ago when I thought I was done. I already told you about this and you seemed to appreciate what I said at the time. Now you have entered the world of a spirituality forum where everyone is jostling for position and trying to prove to themselves and others that they know something. It seems you are now getting caught up in the dynamics of that. No sca, I saw that coming, it was pre-planned. |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Nov 15, 2016 14:02:04 GMT -5
In that video Tim is giving the both/and conceptual answer to self-inquiry. For some people, this might be just what they need to hear at the moment to result in an insight that could expand and alter their perspective. For others, it might not have any impact or effect one way or the other. For yet another group though, it will be a place for them to rest their minds on a comfy cozy resolution to a paradox. Mind will find these paradoxes if it goes looking for the answer to existential questions. Each existential question and every answer are really all the same in the end, just in subtly different formations and arrangements of the mental furniture. While our perspective will always be subject to this sort of re-arrangement for as long as we live, what can and does come to an end though, is any existential questioning along the lines of "Who's Driving the Dream Bus?". Engagement with that question is the most precious opportunity a human being can encounter in the course of their lifetime. Pausing that process on a material answer of both/and is not the permanent end to it, but rather is only a false sense of arrival that suppresses the existential question. The peril of fundamentalism that seemed to disturb Tim can be found just as easily in the assumption that a pointer to the truth can and should relate to the day-to-day experience of a person in the world. Both/and is the sort of an idea that institutions are founded on, while the process of self-inquiry is, as he noted, subjective, never the same twice, and the answer isn't founded on or in any sort of conditioned knowledge or other movement of body or mind. Becoming comfortable with paradox is to settle on a very particular sort of conditioned knowledge. While this can be a powerful means to an end, as a end in and of itself, it is quite a diabolical plan for stealing treasure, and is, of course, as Lisa would say, just what is happening. Yes. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 17:34:30 GMT -5
Not at all you need to read what I wrote. I said I don't think I am awake on purpose..you see you can never think your awake you are awake or not and that comes from knowing Don't worry about all this it doesn't serve you You see words are powerful you missed completely what I said when I used the word think but also E missed it you were reading what you wanted to see. However if you gave any thought about what I said you would catch it. Example being awake is like being hungry. If i am hungry i don't think I am hungry I am simply hungry. I don't go into a food place and say I think I'm hungry. I say I'm hungry. Something as simple like this so easy to get it wrong. It's why attention is so important.. I feel you have a lot of good qualities but you also have some loaded judgements which I saw today. It doesn't make you wrong or bad however any kind of loaded judgement will not serve you. One thing I realized after SR was in truth I know nothing and whatever the absolute wishes to happen will happen and there is never a bad good right wrong thing it just IS.. But if I am holding somekind of Judgement about anything it can begin to cloud the truth in some way instead of just allowing what to happen happen. If the Absolute wishes to have tons of people waking up by Tim then that will happen. Now can you see the folly if this is the absolute wish and we work against it. We would never win of course but still it doesn't serve you Peace Saw that coming a mile away. (Saw that, not who). It's all good and even when it's not it's still good |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 20:10:11 GMT -5
In that video Tim is giving the both/and conceptual answer to self-inquiry. For some people, this might be just what they need to hear at the moment to result in an insight that could expand and alter their perspective. For others, it might not have any impact or effect one way or the other. For yet another group though, it will be a place for them to rest their minds on a comfy cozy resolution to a paradox. Mind will find these paradoxes if it goes looking for the answer to existential questions. Each existential question and every answer are really all the same in the end, just in subtly different formations and arrangements of the mental furniture. While our perspective will always be subject to this sort of re-arrangement for as long as we live, what can and does come to an end though, is any existential questioning along the lines of "Who's Driving the Dream Bus?". Engagement with that question is the most precious opportunity a human being can encounter in the course of their lifetime. Pausing that process on a material answer of both/and is not the permanent end to it, but rather is only a false sense of arrival that suppresses the existential question. The peril of fundamentalism that seemed to disturb Tim can be found just as easily in the assumption that a pointer to the truth can and should relate to the day-to-day experience of a person in the world. Both/and is the sort of an idea that institutions are founded on, while the process of self-inquiry is, as he noted, subjective, never the same twice, and the answer isn't founded on or in any sort of conditioned knowledge or other movement of body or mind. Becoming comfortable with paradox is to settle on a very particular sort of conditioned knowledge. While this can be a powerful means to an end, as a end in and of itself, it is quite a diabolical plan for stealing treasure, and is, of course, as Lisa would say, just what is happening. Wow very well said Laughter I find no disagreement at all. A paradox is a wonder learning tool and also a glimpse into wholeness..paradox rules haha |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 21:04:58 GMT -5
In that video Tim is giving the both/and conceptual answer to self-inquiry. For some people, this might be just what they need to hear at the moment to result in an insight that could expand and alter their perspective. For others, it might not have any impact or effect one way or the other. For yet another group though, it will be a place for them to rest their minds on a comfy cozy resolution to a paradox. Mind will find these paradoxes if it goes looking for the answer to existential questions. Each existential question and every answer are really all the same in the end, just in subtly different formations and arrangements of the mental furniture. While our perspective will always be subject to this sort of re-arrangement for as long as we live, what can and does come to an end though, is any existential questioning along the lines of "Who's Driving the Dream Bus?". Engagement with that question is the most precious opportunity a human being can encounter in the course of their lifetime. Pausing that process on a material answer of both/and is not the permanent end to it, but rather is only a false sense of arrival that suppresses the existential question. The peril of fundamentalism that seemed to disturb Tim can be found just as easily in the assumption that a pointer to the truth can and should relate to the day-to-day experience of a person in the world. Both/and is the sort of an idea that institutions are founded on, while the process of self-inquiry is, as he noted, subjective, never the same twice, and the answer isn't founded on or in any sort of conditioned knowledge or other movement of body or mind. Becoming comfortable with paradox is to settle on a very particular sort of conditioned knowledge. While this can be a powerful means to an end, as a end in and of itself, it is quite a diabolical plan for stealing treasure, and is, of course, as Lisa would say, just what is happening. But isn't stolen treasure subject to the metamorphism of being turned back into lead? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 21:51:51 GMT -5
In that video Tim is giving the both/and conceptual answer to self-inquiry. For some people, this might be just what they need to hear at the moment to result in an insight that could expand and alter their perspective. For others, it might not have any impact or effect one way or the other. For yet another group though, it will be a place for them to rest their minds on a comfy cozy resolution to a paradox. Mind will find these paradoxes if it goes looking for the answer to existential questions. Each existential question and every answer are really all the same in the end, just in subtly different formations and arrangements of the mental furniture. While our perspective will always be subject to this sort of re-arrangement for as long as we live, what can and does come to an end though, is any existential questioning along the lines of "Who's Driving the Dream Bus?". Engagement with that question is the most precious opportunity a human being can encounter in the course of their lifetime. Pausing that process on a material answer of both/and is not the permanent end to it, but rather is only a false sense of arrival that suppresses the existential question. The peril of fundamentalism that seemed to disturb Tim can be found just as easily in the assumption that a pointer to the truth can and should relate to the day-to-day experience of a person in the world. Both/and is the sort of an idea that institutions are founded on, while the process of self-inquiry is, as he noted, subjective, never the same twice, and the answer isn't founded on or in any sort of conditioned knowledge or other movement of body or mind. Becoming comfortable with paradox is to settle on a very particular sort of conditioned knowledge. While this can be a powerful means to an end, as a end in and of itself, it is quite a diabolical plan for stealing treasure, and is, of course, as Lisa would say, just what is happening. But isn't stolen treasure subject to the metamorphism of being turned back into lead? Have no fear a can of Absolute spray paint is all you need |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 22:17:24 GMT -5
But isn't stolen treasure subject to the metamorphism of being turned back into lead? Have no fear a can of Absolute spray paint is all you need So a simple examination of the fingerprints of those that have touched it, is all that's needed then? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 22:28:42 GMT -5
Have no fear a can of Absolute spray paint is all you need So a simple examination of the fingerprints of those that have touched it, is all that's needed then? Watching out knowing those NCIS Absolute boys are tough he tries to remember did I wear gloves? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 22:38:23 GMT -5
I couldn't find the Lucid Living audio book on the website.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 22:51:08 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 22:54:21 GMT -5
So a simple examination of the fingerprints of those that have touched it, is all that's needed then? Watching out knowing those NCIS Absolute boys are tough he tries to remember did I wear gloves?  |
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(Saw that, not who).