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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 10:54:02 GMT -5
Okay, Usually when he says 'Personal self hood is illusion', it makes perfect sense to me, but still I don't want to argue with ZD because he doesn't want to be challenged. That's the good news  Why is that good news? I won't tell you. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 16:12:19 GMT -5
ZD values both experience and realization. I've not had a CC experience or many other mind state experiences that are talked about here. Realizing the nature of experience itself, I have never pursued them. What value they depends on who you ask. Before the fall of 2009 I would have scoffed at the notion of perfection, and with outright hostility. From 2009 to 2011, I was curious about it, but even more curious about why it wasn't so easy to scoff anymore. "Chiang, this world isn't heaven at all, is it?" The Elder smiled in the moonlight. "You are learning again, Jonathon Seagull," he said. "Well, what happens from here? Where are we going? Is there no such place as heaven?" "No Jonathon, there is no such place. Heaven is not a place, and it is not a time. Heaven is being perfect." He was silent for a moment. ~ Richard Bach. |
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Post by laughter on Sept 7, 2016 17:28:52 GMT -5
Before the fall of 2009 I would have scoffed at the notion of perfection, and with outright hostility. From 2009 to 2011, I was curious about it, but even more curious about why it wasn't so easy to scoff anymore. "Chiang, this world isn't heaven at all, is it?" The Elder smiled in the moonlight. "You are learning again, Jonathon Seagull," he said. "Well, what happens from here? Where are we going? Is there no such place as heaven?" "No Jonathon, there is no such place. Heaven is not a place, and it is not a time. Heaven is being perfect." He was silent for a moment. ~ Richard Bach. a coffee-table fixture in the 1970's homes of all Americans with any cultural curiosity. I was all like .. "whaaaat??  I'm 10  " .. between Bach and Frank Herbert there was all sorts of stealth-inculcation goin' on ..  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 1:02:57 GMT -5
"Chiang, this world isn't heaven at all, is it?" The Elder smiled in the moonlight. "You are learning again, Jonathon Seagull," he said. "Well, what happens from here? Where are we going? Is there no such place as heaven?" "No Jonathon, there is no such place. Heaven is not a place, and it is not a time. Heaven is being perfect." He was silent for a moment. ~ Richard Bach. a coffee-table fixture in the 1970's homes of all Americans with any cultural curiosity. I was all like .. "whaaaat?? I'm 10 " .. between Bach and Frank Herbert there was all sorts of stealth-inculcation goin' on ..  .. a Scotsman gave it me in 1993 when I was leaving South Africa and therefore his life. He advised me to read Seagull and Illusions at least 7 times each..  |
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Post by laughter on Sept 8, 2016 1:11:39 GMT -5
a coffee-table fixture in the 1970's homes of all Americans with any cultural curiosity. I was all like .. "whaaaat?? I'm 10 " .. between Bach and Frank Herbert there was all sorts of stealth-inculcation goin' on .. .. a Scotsman gave it me in 1993 when I was leaving South Africa and therefore his life. He advised me to read Seagull and Illusions at least 7 times each.. So you haven't heard from him since? Sue wants to go to Barnes&Noble tomorrow and now I have some thing worthwhile to fill the time with. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 1:59:21 GMT -5
.. a Scotsman gave it me in 1993 when I was leaving South Africa and therefore his life. He advised me to read Seagull and Illusions at least 7 times each.. So you haven't heard from him since? Sue wants to go to Barnes&Noble tomorrow and now I have some thing worthwhile to fill the time with. No. He would have to take it on faith that I honoured his advice.  .. Sweet! Happy reading. www.amazon.co.uk/Messiahs-Handbook-Reminders-Advanced-Soul/dp/1937907082#reader_1937907082 |
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Post by Reefs on Sept 8, 2016 10:00:02 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 10:00:58 GMT -5
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" .. between Bach and Frank Herbert there was all sorts of stealth-inculcation goin' on .. 
.. Sweet! Happy reading. 