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Post by hicksetta on Feb 6, 2016 15:25:05 GMT -5
I mean...Osho...realy? Who ever got sucked in by his personal idea of running a zoo, I feel sorry for. And not in a condescending way.
Once he said, if I remember that right, "if you hang out with skunks, you should not wonder when you are considered as stinky."
That's great wisdom....somehow...
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Post by Theodore on Feb 7, 2016 7:31:47 GMT -5
He's said a lot of poignant sayings.
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Post by figgles on Feb 7, 2016 11:57:54 GMT -5
He's said a lot of poignant sayings. Yup, indeed. "When you really laugh for those few moments you are in a deep meditative state. Thinking stops. It is impossible to laugh and think together." Osho "Take life easily, lovingly, playfully, non-seriously. Seriousness is a disease, the greatest disease of the soul and playfulness the greatest health." Osho
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 15:34:59 GMT -5
He's said a lot of poignant sayings. Yup, indeed. "When you really laugh for those few moments you are in a deep meditative state. Thinking stops. It is impossible to laugh and think together." Osho "Take life easily, lovingly, playfully, non-seriously. Seriousness is a disease, the greatest disease of the soul and playfulness the greatest health." Osho sorry but the first one is just BS ... i mean really, why wait till´´deep meditative state´´ for thought to stop or to laugh? A lot of ´´religion´´ going on here.Possibly out of context.But quoted like this--yek! the second one is fine.
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Post by jay17 on Feb 7, 2016 15:49:51 GMT -5
I interpret Osho was not inferring you have to wait till ´deep meditative state´for thought to stop or to laugh. Perhaps he was using 'laughing in deep meditation' experiences as an example to help explain his thoughts about laughter and seriousness.
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Post by figgles on Feb 7, 2016 16:23:55 GMT -5
Yup, indeed. "When you really laugh for those few moments you are in a deep meditative state. Thinking stops. It is impossible to laugh and think together." Osho "Take life easily, lovingly, playfully, non-seriously. Seriousness is a disease, the greatest disease of the soul and playfulness the greatest health." Osho sorry but the first one is just BS ... i mean really, why wait till´´deep meditative state´´ for thought to stop or to laugh? A lot of ´´religion´´ going on here.Possibly out of context.But quoted like this--yek! the second one is fine. I interpreted the first quote to just be saying that when you really laugh, a good, hard, mirthful belly-laugh, resistance stops.....or in other words, vibration rises. That's been my experience anyway. I don't think he's making comment about 'waiting' for anything in particular, more just saying that a moment of laughing is a moment free of resistance...but that's just my take. That particular quote really spoke to me as I have found laughing to be very healing in that sense. I always make a point to instigate and partake in some good belly laughs with my kids before they take off for school in the morning.... light-hearted, silliness kinda reigns in our household.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 16:37:30 GMT -5
sorry but the first one is just BS ... i mean really, why wait till´´deep meditative state´´ for thought to stop or to laugh? A lot of ´´religion´´ going on here.Possibly out of context.But quoted like this--yek! the second one is fine. I interpreted the first quote to just be saying that when you really laugh, a good, hard, mirthful belly-laugh, resistance stops.....or in other words, vibration rises. That's been my experience anyway. I don't think he's making comment about 'waiting' for anything in particular, more just saying that a moment of laughing is a moment free of resistance...but that's just my take. That particular quote really spoke to me as I have found laughing to be very healing in that sense. I always make a point to instigate and partake in some good belly laughs with my kids before they take off for school in the morning.... light-hearted, silliness kinda reigns in our household. okay , good, but you really do not need deep meditative state for that. Nor for being without thoughts.So why use that phrasing. Mind you i saw him give several lectures (Poona) and at times he was really brilliant.Very impressive for an unsuspecting seeker like me.. But i tend to think that many things he said were meant for that particular moment for that particular crowd or a person in there...and not always of universal value.
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Post by figgles on Feb 7, 2016 17:24:51 GMT -5
I interpreted the first quote to just be saying that when you really laugh, a good, hard, mirthful belly-laugh, resistance stops.....or in other words, vibration rises. That's been my experience anyway. I don't think he's making comment about 'waiting' for anything in particular, more just saying that a moment of laughing is a moment free of resistance...but that's just my take. That particular quote really spoke to me as I have found laughing to be very healing in that sense. I always make a point to instigate and partake in some good belly laughs with my kids before they take off for school in the morning.... light-hearted, silliness kinda reigns in our household. okay , good, but you really do not need deep meditative state for that. Nor for being without thoughts.So why use that phrasing. Mind you i saw him give several lectures (Poona) and at times he was really brilliant.Very impressive for an unsuspecting seeker like me.. But i tend to think that many things he said were meant for that particular moment for that particular crowd or a person in there...and not always of universal value. Ah, I see. I was focused more upon the 'effects' aspect.....as in, a deep meditative state = a complete absence of resistance, as does genuine, unforced laughter. But yes, I would agree you, what is commonly understood to be a 'deep meditative state' is not necessary to be in, to be resistance free.
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Post by hicksetta on Feb 8, 2016 12:09:01 GMT -5
I think the whole Osho movement was just possible because the mind-set of most of his western devotees lacked something: Being properly parented. And that's why they, the western devotees, who brought their own children to Osho's ashrams are almost all totally spoiled and some have been sexually abused.
There you go again. Tell me more about ashrams that are healthy places.
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