Sri Aurobindo: A fallen rebel.

[hicksetta]

Cutted into pieces by some french .... female....who messed it all up. In the end.

Why and what for did he, Sri Aurobindo, did not talk to his fellow ashramies anymore? How comes? Why being engaged in utter seclusion while having started and running an ashram?

THAT needs to be answered properly.

Don't deal in running an ashram, if you can't be present anymore to rule and regulate that thing you got started. But that's just me. I'm here. Ready to answer some questions, if they come up.

[hicksetta]

And out of that ashram (Auroville) came a no-dude, called Sri Chinmoy. Another abused child, totally messed and fooked with by growing up there, who started his own guru-buisness, which dealt in: No sex out of marriage, do seva (selfless-service) and run as if there is no tomorrow.

Forget it!

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Feb 2, 2016 16:36:44 GMT -5 hicksetta said:

Cutted into pieces by some french .... female....who messed it all up. In the end.

Why and what for did he, Sri Aurobindo, did not talk to his fellow ashramies anymore? How comes? Why being engaged in utter seclusion while having started and running an ashram?

THAT needs to be answered properly.

Don't deal in running an ashram, if you can't be present anymore to rule and regulate that thing you got started. But that's just me. I'm here. Ready to answer some questions, if they come up.

why did he not jump through everybodies hoops?

why do you?

[hicksetta]

Well...as a Sri Aurobindo devotee, as you seem to be, Sunshine, you have to acknowledge that there is no such thing as an "over-mind". Or, if you believe that as being the case, you are considered as THAT: Over-minded by having eaten up too much creepy "spiritual" poems.

And for the sake of PEACE, I just say: Just because one has worked on some poem for many many years, does not make that poem THE poem.

Someone, in the Amadeus movie, said to Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, "too many notes, Wolfgang. But anyhow, I like your style." (paraprased, of course)

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Feb 2, 2016 17:37:07 GMT -5 hicksetta said:

Well...as a Sri Aurobindo devotee, as you seem to be, Sunshine, you have to acknowledge that there is no such thing as an "over-mind". Or, if you believe that as being the case, you are considered as THAT: Over-minded by having eaten up too much creepy "spiritual" poems.

And for the sake of PEACE, I just say: Just because one has worked on some poem for many many years, does not make that poem THE poem.

Someone, in the Amadeus movie, said to Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, "too many notes, Wolfgang. But anyhow, I like your style." (paraprased, of course)

so who says that then , i didnt, i dont think he did.

he got nominated for Nobel prize for literature by 2 former nobel laureates, and Tagore (who had died by then)was in total awe of him.That was 1949 , he died in 1950 and they dont give nobelprizes to dead folk so that was that. And you know as well as i do he didnt give a hoot about (NP).

as for the rest--(overmind) sounds like ´´i have never seen america so it dont exist. (F..... Columbus)´´.good for you.

just believe what you like, discard the rest.Though you sound attached to your belief.Which could be a problem. For you, not me.

[hicksetta]

Sunshine, if you look closely into Sri Aurobindo's life, you will know that he grew up without his mother, being educated in England and did know very little about his own culture untill he came back to India.

Being educated in England, like he was, meant, at that time, to be not treated like modern pedagogical science would demand to be treated as a student. I think we all know, who did their homework in history, especially the history of the science of educating people, called pedagogic, are aware of the fact that european education at that time was very very VERY rigid.

Growing up without proper motherly love can have serious consequences and those consequences can lead to all kinds of intellectual and "spiritual" discoveries while being a motherless child at heart...still.

Know what I mean?

[hicksetta]

I'm waiting for an answer, Sunshine.

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Feb 4, 2016 12:50:13 GMT -5 hicksetta said:

Sunshine, if you look closely into Sri Aurobindo's life, you will know that he grew up without his mother, being educated in England and did know very little about his own culture untill he came back to India.

Being educated in England, like he was, meant, at that time, to be not treated like modern pedagogical science would demand to be treated as a student. I think we all know, who did their homework in history, especially the history of the science of educating people, called pedagogic, are aware of the fact that european education at that time was very very VERY rigid.

Growing up without proper motherly love can have serious consequences and those consequences can lead to all kinds of intellectual and "spiritual" discoveries while being a motherless child at heart...still.

Know what I mean?

of course

he said himself that the educational system was ´´murder´´. And nature progresses through aberrations,and exceptions.not the average. Lack of love is what incites to find love--if one is lucky one stumbles onto higher love, divine love. So whats the problem.

[hicksetta]

The "problem" is, Sunshine, that it is NOT true, that "nature progresses through aberrations,and exceptions.not the average. Lack of love is what incites to find love--if one is lucky one stumbles onto higher love, divine love."

That is just the way he, Sri Aurobindo, coped with being utterly abused. He could be called a masochist. And I don't mean that in a condesending way at all.

You get my point?

[hicksetta]

And furthermore, to live together with a (western) married woman in the beginning of the 20. century, as an indian dude, in India, as honest as he was, could have caused some serious mental problems for him. Don't you think so too?

[hicksetta]

I think he, Sri Aurobindo, did know he did something wrong by living with that married western woman called the mother, I consider as a b!ch, who wanted to have an ashram to rule some devotees and she got it. He, Sri Aurobindo, was unable to face his devotees any longer BECAUSE he felt ashamed by that and I don't blame him. I do unterstand why he did not engage in the ashram any longer. He had no choise but staying in seclusion. He knew he was not living the right way anymore. But he tried to do his best in doing something what he thought is of some value. He would have done better to abandon and send away that woman. But he couldn't. THAT is called the Rama/Sita problem.

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Feb 4, 2016 17:24:57 GMT -5 hicksetta said:

And furthermore, to live together with a (western) married woman in the beginning of the 20. century, as an indian dude, in India, as honest as he was, could have caused some serious mental problems for him. Don't you think so too?

if it caused any problems, it may have been with the people around him.By that time he already was way beyond worrying what other people think of him.His main worry would have been staying out of the hands of the britisch secret service. His comrades who followed him onto french india,initially had a problem with it. Possibly some secretely hoped he might return to the political platform.His inner guide told him not to.He was a radical, rigurous and highly original thinker. And a formidable poet.He wasnt nominated for the Nobelprize by former laureates for nothing.

[hicksetta]

You're not getting my point, Sunshine.

[hicksetta]

And it does not seem you ever will. Because you don't feel. You are here to do some experiements? So am I. Why can't you deny his UNLAWFULL companion, the so called mother?

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Feb 4, 2016 18:00:15 GMT -5 hicksetta said:

And it does not seem you ever will. Because you don't feel. You are here to do some experiements? So am I. Why can't you deny his UNLAWFULL companion, the so called mother?

i leave you to it Hicksetta.

it is obvious to anybody with a brain that you are playing a rather childish game here.