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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 6:09:01 GMT -5
By the way, how is your dog? Hope he's well! I'm running after street animals usually, and take pics - of cats, birds, etc.. They would get along well with any alien . Read more: spiritualteachers.proboards.com/thread/4156/conquered-aliens-living-earths-matrix?page=3#ixzz3reRvZ6kjDog is fine thanks--not sure if he´d get along with aliens though---he is very good at chasing away aeroplanes : he barks and barks and they never land in the backyard...he must have a great sense of satisfaction--a 100pct score...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 6:20:23 GMT -5
great avatar, sharon who is the ´´I´´ in your post? oh, yeah, just another lie... It's the same I that thinks the avatar is great. no the avatar sucks, i was lying...
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Post by kiwilove on Nov 16, 2015 14:42:34 GMT -5
We are always on the verge of WW3 - as long as we have armies/militaries that are ready to go to war, and nuclear arsenals ready to go. Thank you USA, Russia and China for giving us nuclear nightmares to live with. Britain, France, and India too. The most obvious is not said about IS - which should be coined 'I am Stupid!'. Anyone who endorses murdering innocent people for their cause, is of course quite 'mad' - lost any sense of reality, etc etc. They cannot form a state based on murder. Because within their ranks - they'll use murder to ascend higher and higher. Anyone with any sanity would stand against them - otherwise they'll simply murder you. Likewise the US cannot be a world leader - if they use drones to murder the murderer(s). No matter how much they deserve it. They should be caught and captured instead - and serve as living examples for their crimes - as examples of how not to be brainwashed to be like them. J Searl dates back to the 70s or 80s - but Ed Leedskalnin's tech would be far cheaper to mass manufacture - which dates back to the 20s? or 30s? Likewise the US cannot be a world leader - Read more: spiritualteachers.proboards.com/thread/4156/conquered-aliens-living-earths-matrix?page=3#ixzz3reFuXwh5Hello Sorry but i will no longer follow links or leads you give me. You mention Lobsang Rompa. He is the one who wrote a book about his travels in Tibet.Very popular in the seventies. Complete fiction--he was a plummer from England who never had left the Uk.Yet hordes and hordes of people believed him, and you apparently still do...It is a perfect example of how people can delude others with unbelievable stories, and make the m believe them.Ie Billy Meier etc etc As far as 9/11 is concerned--by now the only ones maintaining it was Osama who did that, are the ones who made up that story. It was an obvious ´´inside´´ job.I watched at least 30 hours of ´´conspiracy´´ documentaries on 9/11 alone and there is no doubt that some high US officials(including bush and cheney) were in on it, helping mossad agents...and what really happened that day was covered up by the Bush administration. The fact that you still seem to have doubts about this, is not very helpful--it means your research is flawd. And a last thing--if you reply to any of my posts, please press ´´quote´´--that way i get a notification, otherwise i may never even read it because it will be impossible to find back between other posts.I have no time for that. I guess ZD would ask you to quote a sentence from my post (copy -paste)--that save a lot of space,and i still get notified(via email).It automatically produces a link to the quote, as you can see above.I usually delete the link, since you should get a notification in your profile--you can activate that in settings in your profile if you want notification via email. And, if you put some space between blocks of sentences you write, like i do here, it is a lot easier to read (especially on a small screen)...and give you more folk who actually read what you write.Your textwalls are discouraging. best, this is a doc on 9/11 i recently saw.A conservative law abiding gullable american who ask a question, and another one...etc.An account of how his research turned his world upside down. I have watched as much videos about the 9/11 conspiracies as such - some? appear to be on the wrong track altogether. An early one focusing on the flash before it impacted into the building surmising a special weapon/device was in use? - but an important point raised, is how can a plane completely disappear inside a building? Something rarely shown is the amount of debris on the rear side of the building(s). Govt agencies not doing their job properly on the day is very odd - like a keystone kops comedy of tragic errors - but including the military? I have not watched every one of them. Hardest to believe is perhaps the notion that computer graphics animation was used and fed to the media. Meier says that explosives were on the planes - or explosive material. Which has some merit to it, but it also raises new hurdles. Still it sounds impossible that the planes were so accurately placed within the buildings - whereas carefully placed charges sounds more believable - given how the two towers fell down the same way. Mythbusters won't touch this subject at all - pity, because reconstructions are needed to see whatever method actually produces the 9-11 demolition effect? Model tests should reveal something?
I went off Rampa because details/things he highlighted don't appear to be genuine. However his overall story is somewhat plausible. Transmigration is certainly possible - Ruth Montgomery call these 'walk ins' - though I haven't read her book that covered this. His details may be wrong/incorrect but the overall concepts I think are valid. Karen Walker did a lot of research on Rampa and believes him to be genuine, etc. Meier disputes Tibetan Lamas/etc and I tend to agree with him - that the religion is more negative/false than genuine. Although Tibetan meditation is genuine in what it can do.
Yeah it's easier to place Meier just like Rampa - depends if you want to read some decent spiritual material - which this site is suppose to be about. You can disregard his life story and just focus on the actual text he writes or reveals/records for us -- because that is what is really important about Meier. He claims that it is not channelled, but via ESP - via an implant/operation he had as a child via being an abductee/volunteer/contactee he is. How else can you explain someone who types with one hand as fast or faster than someone with two hands?
If you read his material and disagree with it. Fine. Everyone chooses what they accept or not accept. I can only say it is worthwhile for your information - to take notice of. Anything that agrees with plain common sense - tends to be rather truthful and believable. To be fair and just - will take you on the true path in life, and be able to tell the false from which is possible and true.
There are hard to believe - impossible like life stories out there. Such as Tesla, Leedskalnin, John Searl, and Meier - amongst others? The more you read about them, or their actual material they wrote themselves confirm their life stories.
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Post by kiwilove on Nov 16, 2015 19:59:50 GMT -5
Some things that Meier says - that makes sense.
That an international force should go after the terrorists, composed of the best of the best (in their various fields - intelligence work etc etc), from various countries - to track down and capture the ring leaders, etc. That they have the legal right to enter any country to go after them.
That prisons should be on a remote island, or in some far away place - and the inmates should be active in self sufficiency - grow their own food, make their own stuff, that they need and use, etc. They should not live in luxury but in some humble, plain existence if they are unfit to mix with normal people as such.
When he talks about the Plejarens as such - they give us a role model upon which we could also live? They don't live in densely populated cities and such like. They don't sleep with their pets - ie. their pets are not allowed to sleep in their houses. Makes real sense because you don't know what cats get up to when they are left free to roam around - chase and eat rats etc?
I remember reading about another such alien contact years ago - it sounded much like something from Close Encounters the movie - in which some humans were sent away on some exchange program - but I got the feeling from reading it - it was really like some kind of science fiction story. I didn't feel like I was gaining any kind of insights or new information, etc from that account. There is a lot of other similar stuff out there - which claim to be about ETs etc out there. But they don't contain anything of interest in them. They should contain some new and interesting information in it's telling - so as to be convincing for us to notice it.
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Post by kiwilove on Nov 16, 2015 22:51:49 GMT -5
UFO contactee stories are of course, unbelievable - and require evidence to back up their claim.
The Plejarens say that the evidence they allow Meier to have - are not conclusive to the skeptic, that doubt will always be present - but the evidence presented is far more than any other contactee. Adamski is on the other end of the scale. But of course, there are some very famous contactee cases - not viewed as such. These are biblical prophets whose accounts can now be seen in that light. Ezekiel being the most famous, his description of such a vehicle inspired an aerospace engineer to design a spacecraft from the biblical description. Back in the 70s/80s Joseph Blumrich's Spaceships of Ezekiel. While I do watch Ancient Aliens - I'm not convinced of all their cases pointed out - but they do bring to light certain ones not heard of before and take you away to far away places. Whereas Timescanners is more to my liking - which shows the engineering feats on ancient sites in considerable detail using the latest technology.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2015 5:43:40 GMT -5
this one caught my eye, but i didnt read all you posted--too much soeculation and zero own experience. spirituality is all and only about YOU here and now.All else is just passtime... ´´That an international force should go after the terrorists, composed of the best of the best (in their various fields - intelligence work etc etc), from various countries - to track down and capture the ring leaders, etc. That they have the legal right to enter any country to go after them.´´ Read more: spiritualteachers.proboards.com/thread/4156/conquered-aliens-living-earths-matrix?page=4#ixzz3rkBeOJ00Oh yeah--Kissinger would love that.He threatened to invade The Netherlands if they would bring US desert storm soldiers to trial for warcrimes... Who decides who is the terrorist? One man´s terrorist is the other man´s freedom fighter... ps watch the 9/11 video i posted here the other day.--it is from 2015 and sums up all the evidence gathered over the years. ps2 i do not dispute aliens exist or could exist. The only link to spirituality IMO is that they are possible physical manifestations of energies we can experience first hand--demons, angels...same energy, different face.A hindu will see Rada, a christian will see Maria--same energy, different face--this is due to conditioning.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2015 6:01:15 GMT -5
Ola Zin, i havent seen that info yet...just tidbits...from what i know, i dont think it either confirms nor denies-- vales marinaris (the largest known canyon in our solar system),was formed by i giant thunderstroke--an electrical discharge between two planets...a possibility that has a lot of evidence to support it...(see ´´symbols of an alien sky part two--mars the lightning scarred planet´´)Nasa fails to explain how water can flow upwards...the ´´inlets´´ of that canyon (created by waterflow-says Nasa) are lower than the bottom of the canyon... Looking forward to seeing The Martian ? or did you see that movie already? No, I haven't seen it either! When Nasa was making the announcement I was curious about v. marineris, too, but it wasn't about that -- I can put a link here later, have to go now. I saw The Martian the other day. It is a lot better and more credible than other ridley scott movies like ´´alien´´ and ´´prometheus´´, where the astronauts make unbelievably stupid mistakes.
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Post by zin on Nov 17, 2015 13:28:55 GMT -5
No, I haven't seen it either! When Nasa was making the announcement I was curious about v. marineris, too, but it wasn't about that -- I can put a link here later, have to go now. I saw The Martian the other day. It is a lot better and more credible than other ridley scott movies like ´´alien´´ and ´´prometheus´´, where the astronauts make unbelievably stupid mistakes. Thanks for reminding me! I checked, will go tomorrow : ) Btw, what stupid mistakes did you see on those films? (I didn't see the films) Maybe you will write one or two : )
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2015 8:59:04 GMT -5
I saw The Martian the other day. It is a lot better and more credible than other ridley scott movies like ´´alien´´ and ´´prometheus´´, where the astronauts make unbelievably stupid mistakes. Thanks for reminding me! I checked, will go tomorrow : ) Btw, what stupid mistakes did you see on those films? (I didn't see the films) Maybe you will write one or two : ) oh, well, basically ignoring protocols installed in any not braindead expedition to new far off planets, concerning quarantine and prevention of contamination by foreign and possibly hostile organisms. (in alien it is a greedy company that wants knowledge about an incredibly tough, intelligent, lifeform --for profit of course)the movie never explains how they got that knowledge in the first place, but that is forgivable... Alien (1979) is a classic...scary...strong female role by sigourney weaver, you might like it...oh..i see it is filed as ´´horror´´...maybe not... Prometheus (recent)a sort of bad remake of it..
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Post by zin on Nov 18, 2015 17:11:11 GMT -5
Thanks for reminding me! I checked, will go tomorrow : ) Btw, what stupid mistakes did you see on those films? (I didn't see the films) Maybe you will write one or two : ) oh, well, basically ignoring protocols installed in any not braindead expedition to new far off planets, concerning quarantine and prevention of contamination by foreign and possibly hostile organisms. (in alien it is a greedy company that wants knowledge about an incredibly tough, intelligent, lifeform --for profit of course)the movie never explains how they got that knowledge in the first place, but that is forgivable... Alien (1979) is a classic...scary...strong female role by sigourney weaver, you might like it...oh..i see it is filed as ´´horror´´...maybe not... Prometheus (recent)a sort of bad remake of it.. Today I saw the Martian, liked it a lot! It is very good to look at empty space (both on the land and also 'in the sky'). Maybe I understood the people who want to go to Mars with no plan to return! I also thought, a place on which no murder, torture, abuse, etc have happened - it must give one a clean mind. But of course I thought all in a comfortable theater chair. I know I must've asked this before, but I forgot what you said.. Did Aurobindo talk about space/planets/stars and also aliens? While talking on these some months ago, my mind was always on consciousness and some way of instant communication between far away points.. it was mostly about mind. Now I think more on physical things.. of course what I think does not matter but thinking on transportation is a bit realistic, too . I had heard about the film Alien of course, may read about its story at least.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2015 5:55:47 GMT -5
oh, well, basically ignoring protocols installed in any not braindead expedition to new far off planets, concerning quarantine and prevention of contamination by foreign and possibly hostile organisms. (in alien it is a greedy company that wants knowledge about an incredibly tough, intelligent, lifeform --for profit of course)the movie never explains how they got that knowledge in the first place, but that is forgivable... Alien (1979) is a classic...scary...strong female role by sigourney weaver, you might like it...oh..i see it is filed as ´´horror´´...maybe not... Prometheus (recent)a sort of bad remake of it.. Today I saw the Martian, liked it a lot! It is very good to look at empty space (both on the land and also 'in the sky'). Maybe I understood the people who want to go to Mars with no plan to return! I also thought, a place on which no murder, torture, abuse, etc have happened - it must give one a clean mind. But of course I thought all in a comfortable theater chair. I know I must've asked this before, but I forgot what you said.. Did Aurobindo talk about space/planets/stars and also aliens? While talking on these some months ago, my mind was always on consciousness and some way of instant communication between far away points.. it was mostly about mind. Now I think more on physical things.. of course what I think does not matter but thinking on transportation is a bit realistic, too . I had heard about the film Alien of course, may read about its story at least. Sri Aurobindo mentions countless numbers of worlds and beings. The Mother once thought she had a vision--she saw a UFO near Pondicherry, India. Later she heard others had seen it too, and she realised it was a´´real´´ thing.She mentioned she would be very interested to have a converstaion with the occupants. Aurobindo stressed that our first and foremost priority should be earth.
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Post by kiwilove on Nov 19, 2015 19:51:34 GMT -5
People do the most stupid things in movies - so as to show the worst case scenario, etc etc. If people did the right thing in movies - it would make for a boring storyline, etc. No action.
People in real life - want to live safe boring lives in which nothing much happens, no excitement (therefore no risk) etc etc.
If very basic spiritual values were agreed upon the population at large - stuff like Islamic State wouldn't happen. It should be repeated in the mass media - that IS - stands for Incredibly Stupid, etc etc. That they are simply 'mad' and anyone who supports them, is likewise mad and insane, etc etc. Islamic State wouldn't last long, even if it was established. It would be run on terror - and history always show they do not last long at all. Although Rome did last a long enough time, but Nazism - no. Stalism no. And religion, ie. mainstream religion has to be shown for all it's false promises/ideas/etc. Christianity supports such nonsense. Islam is no better. All human beings (universe wide) are the same as each other, of equal standing, etc. There is no heaven/hell or afterlife. The later is debatable. Would earth like religions exist in ET societies etc. No. Something clearly false and misleading would not be tolerated by anyone who has access to information, reason and logic, etc etc.
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Post by zin on Nov 20, 2015 6:16:19 GMT -5
Today I saw the Martian, liked it a lot! It is very good to look at empty space (both on the land and also 'in the sky'). Maybe I understood the people who want to go to Mars with no plan to return! I also thought, a place on which no murder, torture, abuse, etc have happened - it must give one a clean mind. But of course I thought all in a comfortable theater chair. I know I must've asked this before, but I forgot what you said.. Did Aurobindo talk about space/planets/stars and also aliens? While talking on these some months ago, my mind was always on consciousness and some way of instant communication between far away points.. it was mostly about mind. Now I think more on physical things.. of course what I think does not matter but thinking on transportation is a bit realistic, too . I had heard about the film Alien of course, may read about its story at least. Sri Aurobindo mentions countless numbers of worlds and beings. The Mother once thought she had a vision--she saw a UFO near Pondicherry, India. Later she heard others had seen it too, and she realised it was a´´real´´ thing.She mentioned she would be very interested to have a converstaion with the occupants. Aurobindo stressed that our first and foremost priority should be earth. I wonder what happens under the crust of earth. I read some things but not clear yet. They (Aurobindo and Mother too, I guess) were meditating (?) about/into matter, right? I remember reading about their coming to light there. Many things to read and think! I will look at one or two of Satprem's books later (about earth) - always I have little time : (
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2015 6:38:44 GMT -5
Sri Aurobindo mentions countless numbers of worlds and beings. The Mother once thought she had a vision--she saw a UFO near Pondicherry, India. Later she heard others had seen it too, and she realised it was a´´real´´ thing.She mentioned she would be very interested to have a converstaion with the occupants. Aurobindo stressed that our first and foremost priority should be earth. I wonder what happens under the crust of earth. I read some things but not clear yet. They (Aurobindo and Mother too, I guess) were meditating (?) about/into matter, right? I remember reading about their coming to light there. Many things to read and think! I will look at one or two of Satprem's books later (about earth) - always I have little time : ( Í didnt mean ´´earth´´ as that ball of rock and sea, but more the liberation we seek for the humans living on it (and in the process the billions of animals we torture maim and kill every year for no good reason), not be expected from some alien race of ´´gods´´ , but through our own human effort. They discovered, by letting the ´´light´´ descend deeper and deeper into themselves, that at the bottom, beyond the ´´bottom´´ there is ANOTHER light, ,a Force, that had not been described in any known Scripture.Aurobindo named this the ´´supramental´´. He claims that , if anything, this Force has the power to transform human nature, even the body, --contrary to popular belief that human nature and conditionings can not be transformed, and the only way to freedom is to escape...
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Post by zin on Nov 21, 2015 6:44:04 GMT -5
I wonder what happens under the crust of earth. I read some things but not clear yet. They (Aurobindo and Mother too, I guess) were meditating (?) about/into matter, right? I remember reading about their coming to light there. Many things to read and think! I will look at one or two of Satprem's books later (about earth) - always I have little time : ( Í didnt mean ´´earth´´ as that ball of rock and sea, but more the liberation we seek for the humans living on it (and in the process the billions of animals we torture maim and kill every year for no good reason), not be expected from some alien race of ´´gods´´ , but through our own human effort. They discovered, by letting the ´´light´´ descend deeper and deeper into themselves, that at the bottom, beyond the ´´bottom´´ there is ANOTHER light, ,a Force, that had not been described in any known Scripture.Aurobindo named this the ´´supramental´´. He claims that , if anything, this Force has the power to transform human nature, even the body, --contrary to popular belief that human nature and conditionings can not be transformed, and the only way to freedom is to escape... OK, thank you! I am interested in the ball of rock and sea, too ..
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