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Post by preciocho on Sept 23, 2016 1:39:20 GMT -5
I echo your sentiments. There's a lot of fuzzy information out there.
What there does seem to be in the psychiatric/psychologist community is a once fringe section (now fairly mainstream) using past life regression therapy to correct behavior. I would call many of these corrections just alterations and many of these past lives just unconscious energy mingling at the point of attraction. When you get into the potential for a spirit from the therapist to over cloak the person regressing, it's a real dog and pony show.
these corrections of past lives are nonsense! Your spirit starts to operate from the information that you have gained in this life time and it alters when the clarity dawn! Yes it's all explicable through the collective unconscious. Almost no human story of reincarnation sounds like actual reincarnation, but rather, evolution of spirit. I won't go as far to say soul reincarnation is implicitly impossible, but I'm getting there. |
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Post by preciocho on Sept 23, 2016 1:40:03 GMT -5
This could be another apparent over cloak. Meaning the spirit of the doctor developed a spirit attraction to the boy and could drop thoughts into the boy's mind as if they were his own, or put another way, the thoughts being dropped into his mind are/were the actual spirit  Thoughts can't be dropped inside your consciousness. Consciousness creates and perceives. Ok not dropped, created under influence of an unconscious force. |
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Post by tenka on Sept 23, 2016 1:40:22 GMT -5
That well maybe the case butt when speaking to you about the differences you were not promoting the differences .. You were collaborating with the G man regarding the similarities of that which appears in the dream state and the waking state to make a point . That's why I spent an age suggesting repeatedly 'why did you marry your wife' amongst other things if you are only second guessing that she is real . It's kinda easy to spot the differences isn't it regarding what is real and what is illusory or imagined, so for the life of me I can't understand the wall of defence put up with some peeps that couldn't seemingly get the point myself and others were making .. Such a wall of defence attained produced a response each time that dodged certain questions put forward relating to the differences between the waking world and the dream state . Perhaps it would of been beneficial for the sake of the many conversations had on this subject for you to emphasise the differences rather than just a one sided approach highlighting the similarities .. It kinda puts you in a position regarding which side of the fence you sit on if you only stick to one side of it . It's simple; A point was being made that related to the similarities between the waking and dream state. Instead of acknowledging the similarity and the point, you and others launched into a campaign to talk about the differences, as though that had anything to do with the point being made. Andy just did something similar to Gopal, and so Gopal felt he wasn't being understood. Nobody denied differences, but you got on the warpath and you weren't going to come home without somebody's scalp. Nah not at all ... butt you can look at yourself in regards to not acknowledging the differences ... Everything is what you are that appears in mind or consciousness and that is a common similarity / belief that I share, butt for some like yourself you struggled with identifying the differences between those of the flesh and those of the dream state . What you refer to my campaign as, are just my repeated thoughts on the subject that one's pink elephant of my imagination that appears in consciousness is not tarred with the same brush as a consciously aware individual known as my mother .. No matter what .. the differences are as clear as day ... It was clear as day the day you married your wife and not the pink elephant in your dream .. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 1:43:38 GMT -5
these corrections of past lives are nonsense! Your spirit starts to operate from the information that you have gained in this life time and it alters when the clarity dawn! Yes it's all explicable through the collective unconscious. Almost no human story of reincarnation sounds like actual reincarnation, but rather, evolution of spirit. I won't go as far to say soul reincarnation is implicitly impossible, but I'm getting there. There is no collective unconsciousness, that's comes out of speculation. You can never know whether other individual is real or figment, Said that, where does collective unconsciousness comes into the play? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 1:44:41 GMT -5
Thoughts can't be dropped inside your consciousness. Consciousness creates and perceives. Ok not dropped, created under influence of an unconscious force. What's this unconscious force you refer in this place? |
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Post by preciocho on Sept 23, 2016 1:47:40 GMT -5
Ok not dropped, created under influence of an unconscious force. What's this unconscious force you refer in this place? The rejected energy from the doctor's death and the emotional rollover onto Junior's psyche. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 1:49:11 GMT -5
What's this unconscious force you refer in this place? The rejected energy from the doctor's death and the emotional rollover onto Junior's psyche. Nonsense! |
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Post by preciocho on Sept 23, 2016 1:50:36 GMT -5
Yes it's all explicable through the collective unconscious. Almost no human story of reincarnation sounds like actual reincarnation, but rather, evolution of spirit. I won't go as far to say soul reincarnation is implicitly impossible, but I'm getting there. There is no collective unconsciousness, that's comes out of speculation. You can never know whether other individual is real or figment, Said that, where does collective unconsciousness comes into the play? Even if they are figment apparent spiritual force is still possible. Unconsciousness comes into the equation when one individual loses consciousness of that same individual's experience. Sometimes there is some energy (emotion) associated with the loss of consciousness. That energy can influence thinking and behavior to a very high degree.
The fear of death is the most apparent influence of the collective unconscious I can think. THey are unconscious how much the fear of death influences their thinking.
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Post by preciocho on Sept 23, 2016 1:51:15 GMT -5
The rejected energy from the doctor's death and the emotional rollover onto Junior's psyche. Nonsense! 1/Nonsense. ! |
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Post by preciocho on Sept 23, 2016 1:56:56 GMT -5
Ok not dropped, created under influence of an unconscious force. What's this unconscious force you refer in this place? The point is that you cannot see the unconscious force. You speculate its there based on information. We can speculate the boy was overcloaked by the doctor's spirit. How? Because he brought him to the place he got killed, and was likely horrifically traumatized by being murdered. Using logic we can connect the energy to a point of attraction in Junior. Why was Junior attracting a murder victim's energy? If he in fact has a causal emotion to explain that attraction (and I suggest he would if the story was true), then you can start to see the collective unconscious in action, without actually 'seeing it'.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 1:58:15 GMT -5
There is no collective unconsciousness, that's comes out of speculation. You can never know whether other individual is real or figment, Said that, where does collective unconsciousness comes into the play? Even if they are figment apparent spiritual force is still possible. Unconsciousness comes into the equation when one individual loses consciousness of that same individual's experience. Sometimes there is some energy (emotion) associated with the loss of consciousness. That energy can influence thinking and behavior to a very high degree.
The fear of death is the most apparent influence of the collective unconscious I can think. THey are unconscious how much the fear of death influences their thinking.
If they are figment then they do not exist, you start to talk like Tenka,Tenka's funniest question is "how could a figment mother can give birth to a real child? " Tenka doesn't know he is raising the funniest question. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 2:01:02 GMT -5
What's this unconscious force you refer in this place? The point is that you cannot see the unconscious force. You speculate its there based on information. We can speculate the boy was overcloaked by the doctor's spirit. How? Because he brought him to the place he got killed, and was likely horrifically traumatized by being murdered. Using logic we can connect the energy to a point of attraction in Junior. Why was Junior attracting a murder victim's energy? If he in fact has a causal emotion to explain that attraction (and I suggest he would if the story was true), then you can start to see the collective unconscious in action, without actually 'seeing it'.
Consciousness is creating everything now. The biggest question regarding to our memory is 'whether we have stored memory or it's being created right now'. We can't know, but I believe it's not stored somewhere, instead it's being created now. So the boy who is guiding us to the place where the doctor was buried is being created right now in this moment. He doesn't need to have a memory for that. |
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Post by preciocho on Sept 23, 2016 2:04:57 GMT -5
Even if they are figment apparent spiritual force is still possible. Unconsciousness comes into the equation when one individual loses consciousness of that same individual's experience. Sometimes there is some energy (emotion) associated with the loss of consciousness. That energy can influence thinking and behavior to a very high degree.
The fear of death is the most apparent influence of the collective unconscious I can think. THey are unconscious how much the fear of death influences their thinking.
If they are figment then they do not exist, you start to talk like Tenka,Tenka's funniest question is "how could a figment mother can give birth to a real child? " Tenka doesn't know he is raising the funniest question. I was talking about apparent spiritual force to you not being a figment. The potential for a non-figment to be compartmentalized. |
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Post by preciocho on Sept 23, 2016 2:09:40 GMT -5
The point is that you cannot see the unconscious force. You speculate its there based on information. We can speculate the boy was overcloaked by the doctor's spirit. How? Because he brought him to the place he got killed, and was likely horrifically traumatized by being murdered. Using logic we can connect the energy to a point of attraction in Junior. Why was Junior attracting a murder victim's energy? If he in fact has a causal emotion to explain that attraction (and I suggest he would if the story was true), then you can start to see the collective unconscious in action, without actually 'seeing it'.
Consciousness is creating everything now. The biggest question regarding to our memory is 'whether we have stored memory or it's being created right now'. We can't know, but I believe it's not stored somewhere, instead it's being created now. So the boy who is guiding us to the place where the doctor was buried is being created right now in this moment. He doesn't need to have a memory for that. And yet things and people trigger energy based on how you are conditioned as a separate person. You can be unconscious of your conditioning now. Why do people forget their experiences? Sometimes, it's to avoid certain feelings. At times, that's when people get angry.
To say unconsciousness is nonsense because it doesn't exist is the best way to stay unconscious. I have no issue with that, but it's still the best way.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 2:12:56 GMT -5
Consciousness is creating everything now. The biggest question regarding to our memory is 'whether we have stored memory or it's being created right now'. We can't know, but I believe it's not stored somewhere, instead it's being created now. So the boy who is guiding us to the place where the doctor was buried is being created right now in this moment. He doesn't need to have a memory for that. And yet things and people trigger energy based on how you are conditioned as a separate person. You can be unconscious of your conditioning now. Why do people forget their experiences? Sometimes, it's to avoid certain feelings. At times, that's when people get angry.
To say unconsciousness is nonsense because it doesn't exist is the best way to stay unconscious. I have no issue with that, but it's still the best way.
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