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Post by laughter on Jul 17, 2016 15:15:09 GMT -5
It is impossible to sort this out with g-man, because he's incorporated two contexts together. It'll likely drive you mad before him hehe. It's absolute poo sh!te .. .. it's beyond madness I tell you, it's beyond madness ... I don't 4 a minute believe g man believes, it, there is too much investment in his theory .. Hey, why don't you ask andy if he's ever pinched himself to confirm that he exists unless he doesn't? Were you aware that your debate position with gopal is grounded in something that andy's spent hours and hours arguing against here in the past?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2016 15:15:18 GMT -5
shakes head mate, there might be photo's of your birth .. take a look dear boy .. Do you understand your parents were there for your birth, I have asked you if you know about the birds and the bee's .. Do you? Did your grandmother confirm she gave birth to your mother .. Come on G man, let it go, you can't hold on to this pretence for ever, it's doing you no good man .. He is saying that he was not born i.e he is prior to appearances. But then in the next sentence he will say that his consciousness is an individual one. He's put 2 contexts together and you are chasing him round the room but will never catch him hehehe. It's quite funny to watch. I am not the individual if other individuals don't exist because individual looses the meaning there. When i was saying I am the only individual who is real then I am just talking about my perceiving point.
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Post by tenka on Jul 17, 2016 15:15:37 GMT -5
Did your grandmother confirm in someway that your mother is her daughter ... did you have memories as a child .. you know u can only have memories as a child if you were born baby and not a fully grown g man whom can verify their own existence .. If u have memories of a child is that not evident enough that you were born unto your mother? Whatever I am seeing it's appearing to me.Those are all the stories appearing to me. Since all of them are appearing to me, how could I know that they are real or reel ? You were in your mothers womb b4 things were appearing to you . Doctors can confirm this . It's not a trick mate, it is a matter of fact .. don't mess with the facts .. Your lost and stuck within a theory that doesn't add up nor make sense, you can keep on reciting your theory butt it doesn't hold up does it . You can't even explain how you got here lol ..
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Post by tenka on Jul 17, 2016 15:17:21 GMT -5
It's absolute poo sh!te .. .. it's beyond madness I tell you, it's beyond madness ... I don't 4 a minute believe g man believes, it, there is too much investment in his theory .. Hey, why don't you ask andy if he's ever pinched himself to confirm that he exists unless he doesn't? Were you aware that your debate position with gopal is grounded in something that andy's spent hours and hours arguing against here in the past? if your listening andy dear chap can you do the pinching experiment and let g man know .. I didn't ask andy cos he wasn't questioning me about it like you are . Tis a simple experiment you know ..
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Post by laughter on Jul 17, 2016 15:17:43 GMT -5
He is saying that he was not born i.e he is prior to appearances. But then in the next sentence he will say that his consciousness is an individual one. He's put 2 contexts together and you are chasing him round the room but will never catch him hehehe. It's quite funny to watch. I am not the individual if other individuals don't exist because individual looses the meaning there. When i was saying I am the only individual who is real then I am just talking about my perceiving point. Don't worry. E' promised to explain context by no later than this evening.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2016 15:18:31 GMT -5
Whatever I am seeing it's appearing to me.Those are all the stories appearing to me. Since all of them are appearing to me, how could I know that they are real or reel ? You were in your mothers womb b4 things were appearing to you . Doctors can confirm this . It's not a trick mate, it is a matter of fact .. don't mess with the facts .. Your lost and stuck within a theory that doesn't add up nor make sense, you can keep on reciting your theory butt it doesn't hold up does it . You can't even explain how you got here lol .. If I am the only real individual who exist then why would I need to take birth? I am an ever existing in this case.
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Post by laughter on Jul 17, 2016 15:18:41 GMT -5
Hey, why don't you ask andy if he's ever pinched himself to confirm that he exists unless he doesn't? Were you aware that your debate position with gopal is grounded in something that andy's spent hours and hours arguing against here in the past? if your listening andy dear chap can you do the pinching experiment and let g man know .. I didn't ask andy cos he wasn't questioning me about it like you are . Tis a simple experiment you know .. An unnecessary one. But if you can get andy to agree that he exists (unequivocally), more power to ya'.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2016 15:19:21 GMT -5
I am not the individual if other individuals don't exist because individual looses the meaning there. When i was saying I am the only individual who is real then I am just talking about my perceiving point. Don't worry. E' promised to explain context by no later than this evening. ha ha .
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Post by andrew on Jul 17, 2016 15:19:52 GMT -5
He is saying that he was not born i.e he is prior to appearances. But then in the next sentence he will say that his consciousness is an individual one. He's put 2 contexts together and you are chasing him round the room but will never catch him hehehe. It's quite funny to watch. I am not the individual if other individuals don't exist because individual looses the meaning there. When i was saying I am the only individual who is real then I am just talking about my perceiving point. If you are an individual, or have a perceiving point, then you are not Consciousness. At some point, you MAY have to make up your mind what you are. Either Consciousness, or something else that has a perceiving point.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2016 15:20:03 GMT -5
if your listening andy dear chap can you do the pinching experiment and let g man know .. I didn't ask andy cos he wasn't questioning me about it like you are . Tis a simple experiment you know .. An unnecessary one. But if you can get andy to agree that he exists (unequivocally), more power to ya'.
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Post by laughter on Jul 17, 2016 15:20:35 GMT -5
Don't worry. E' promised to explain context by no later than this evening. ha ha . At this point it's just energizing an absurdity to reply to these guys anymore, but if you wanna' have your fun I understand.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2016 15:21:02 GMT -5
I am not the individual if other individuals don't exist because individual looses the meaning there. When i was saying I am the only individual who is real then I am just talking about my perceiving point. If you are an individual, or have a perceiving point, then you are not Consciousness. At some point, you MAY have to make up your mind what you are. Either Consciousness, or something else that has a perceiving point. Consciousness is perceiving and I am that consciousness and everything else is appearing to me.
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Post by andrew on Jul 17, 2016 15:21:49 GMT -5
You were in your mothers womb b4 things were appearing to you . Doctors can confirm this . It's not a trick mate, it is a matter of fact .. don't mess with the facts .. Your lost and stuck within a theory that doesn't add up nor make sense, you can keep on reciting your theory butt it doesn't hold up does it . You can't even explain how you got here lol .. If I am the only real individual who exist then why would I need to take birth? I am an ever existing in this case. Only individuals are born. Consciousness isn't born and Consciousness has no points of perception. Which are you? I can't believe I've joined the chasing party hehe
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2016 15:22:41 GMT -5
ha ha . At this point it's just energizing an absurdity to reply to these guys anymore, but if you wanna' have your fun I understand. I am lying on my bed and it's 1:51 am here but still I can't stop talking with Tenka because he is raising BRILLIANT questions
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Post by andrew on Jul 17, 2016 15:23:42 GMT -5
If you are an individual, or have a perceiving point, then you are not Consciousness. At some point, you MAY have to make up your mind what you are. Either Consciousness, or something else that has a perceiving point. Consciousness is perceiving and I am that consciousness and everything else is appearing to me. If you want to say that Consciousness is perceiving, then we would have to say that Consciousness is perceiving EVERYTHING. And therefore that everything exists equally. Every individual, every point of perception, every appearance...it all exists equally.
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