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Post by commiejesus on Nov 7, 2008 10:47:16 GMT -5
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Post by swamicollins on Nov 25, 2008 5:28:22 GMT -5
Rajneesh Chandra Mohan was an Indian Buisnessman who died from AIDS--he had a great rap but was MIND-Driven and nowhere near to CREATION-He had sex with 5 women I met in my 9 months in Poona and each one spoke of his inability to maintain his erection and his premature ejeculation.No real Teacher needs over 90 Rolls Royces to prove his "sanyassins love him!!-No real Teacher needs a wristwatch costing 500,000$ studded with Diamonds-that is just Criminal in a country with 10s of Millions starving to death-Rajneesh(He was NOT Osho--osho was an Honourable Japanese monk who did NOT use others Names to give his BUISNESS credence
Rajneesh was a total failure on lifes Path but he sure fooled a lot og gullible people round the World
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Post by swamicollins on Nov 25, 2008 5:36:47 GMT -5
Also "lady Luck does NOT exist--"she is a Mind generated FANTASY
Whereas KARMA is of THREE varities--Good Karma--Bad Karma --Neutral Karma
Good and Bad Karma are generated whilst in DUALITY and Non-DUALITY(these two are the created field that the MIND operates in)
Neutral mKarma can ONLY be Generated on the Path to dissolving Mind and its puppet the Conditioned Identity as preface to entering UNION with CREATION(NO "god" is responsible for Creating anything except the Illusions of "religions"
There are no people on this BLOG who are creating Neutral Karma--Peter isnt! Sophia isnt!! Lm isnt!!
Upon entering UNION with CREATION one(equally Male or Female) ceases to accumulate ANY Kind of Karma and becomes A-Karmic-that is Karma free and free from the turnings of the Wheel of Life--
Good and Bad Karma as ALL accumulate who write here ties one to the everturning Wheel of Life Death Rebirth
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Post by fear on Nov 28, 2008 18:45:13 GMT -5
I happen to think OSHO is the real deal. He is thought provoking and honest. He may have 90 Rolls Royces but he is not attached to them according to him. But it does get everyones attention even Swamicollins, maybe that was his intention. He could have had every type of Ferrari, Lamborghini, Jaguar but he chose to only but RR's so that says a lot right there. He probably did it because he could and also because it stirred things up. I believe he really walked the razors edge.
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Post by lightmystic on Nov 29, 2008 0:58:36 GMT -5
From what little I've heard and read of Osho, he's pretty cool. My experience resonates with his descriptions.
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Post by commiejesus on Dec 4, 2008 1:53:32 GMT -5
I do not 100-percent agree with OSHO but he was the real deal. Just watch him on youtube and try to get his message, it is quite unique. He did the gold watches and bentley's as a joke and shock therapy, he was not attached to any of that and that what counts. If you have the means via your followers to do that you can either do it or not but it is of no consequence to anything. As I have said I absolutely LOVE his book, - "the book of secrets" I happen to think OSHO is the real deal. He is thought provoking and honest. He may have 90 Rolls Royces but he is not attached to them according to him. But it does get everyones attention even Swamicollins, maybe that was his intention. He could have had every type of Ferrari, Lamborghini, Jaguar but he chose to only but RR's so that says a lot right there. He probably did it because he could and also because it stirred things up. I believe he really walked the razors edge. |
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Post by sus on Feb 13, 2011 11:05:42 GMT -5
As I have said I absolutely LOVE his book, - "the book of secrets"
Yeah, a great commentary on meditationj techniques
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Post by mdawgs1 on Feb 17, 2011 11:09:15 GMT -5
Osho -- a timeless mind gone wrong...
I love the Book of Secrets. It took two years to completely get through it and several tantra techniques were attempted. But the truth is, afterwards, I had an opportunity to read several members' diaries of their time on his commune. While Osho definitely attained at one point, it seems the ego took over. A girl he was sexually involved with killed herself. It was like nothing happened. A True Master will never hinder a student's realization of the Whole. Osho did just that. Ego took over and he got lost in a god complex, using spirituality as his self-defense mechanism. While everything is true perfection and happens exactly as it should, so should this comment be out there. There will be inconsistencies or apparent inconsistencies. Take the image of Nisargadatta Maharaj smoking cigarettes and his saying, "The body kept a few habits." But with Osho, these inconsistencies were way too many and his need for jewelry, Rolls Royces, and all of that, including his popping pills, demonstrates the life of an egoist--not of a Saint.
You want truth, read I Am That or Be As Your Are by Maharshi or the Ashtavakra Gita -- Byrom's version. Nothing else needs to be said except this:
God made all things
There is only God.
When you know this
Desire melts away.
Clinging to nothing
You become still...
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Post by sus on Feb 17, 2011 11:20:32 GMT -5
Ha Ha!
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Post by michaelsees on Feb 17, 2011 14:50:04 GMT -5
Osho was and is amazing. What 's not to love about the man.
It's true his whole work was to make spirituality real and accessible without all this religious crap added to it.
I have this short film I can upload for anyone that wishes it.
It's rare description below. This is very old footage of Osho when his hair was black before he became really popular in the US.
A special 35-minute documentary of Osho and Ma Yog Laxmi – Life is Just a Play
Disciple Day Celebration at Osho World galleria, New Delhi- 2-2011
Osho says about a disciple and master relationship -
“The first step is that of a student, curious but still a spectator, far away, collecting information, knowledge. The second step is that of a disciple, no more a spectator but a participant, no more interested in knowledge but tremendously interested in knowing. And the third step is that of a devotee, utterly one with the Master, partaking of his being, drinking out of his inexhaustible source,
drunk -- drunk with the divine.”
Ma Yog Laxmi, a totally surrendered disciple was Osho secretary for many years. A special 35-minute documentary – Life is Just a Play - tracing her spiritual journey of absolute surrender to the master was premiered during this event. Created by Osho World Foundation, this visual tribute to Ma Yog Laxmi, who always referred to herself in the third person to disconnect her identity from her physical body, touched all who were present whether they knew about her or not. Osho talks about the surrender of a disciple like Ma Laxmi in the film, Osho described her as ‘Absolute Yes’ as his Buddhafield pervaded all over.
enjoy.
Michael
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Post by ivory on Feb 18, 2011 20:50:40 GMT -5
"The first step is that of a student, curious but still a spectator, far away, collecting information, knowledge. The second step is that of a disciple, no more a spectator but a participant, no more interested in knowledge but tremendously interested in knowing."
Cool. This is what I think what Jed means by the first step, that maddening, burning desire to know the truth.
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Post by michaelsees on Feb 18, 2011 21:26:39 GMT -5
Yes I think so also.
Osho was such a brilliant teacher. He always knew exactly what to say on any given topic.
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Post by anyoldnamewilldo on Oct 17, 2011 9:34:37 GMT -5
`BELOVED OSHO,
IN ONE OF THE FESTIVAL DARSHANS I WAS SITTING AT YOUR FEET, BOWING DOWN
TO YOU, AND SUDDENLY FOUND THERE WAS NO YOU – THERE WAS ONLY AN EMPTY
CHAIR. AND ALL THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WERE BOWING DOWN TO AN EMPTY CHAIR,
SITTING IN SILENCE WITH AN EMPTY CHAIR, SINGING AND CELEBRATING WITH AN EMPTY
CHAIR. I NEARLY BURST OUT LAUGHING, SEEING THE RIDICULOUSNESS OF US NEEDING
YOU AS AN EXCUSE TO BE ABLE TO DO ALL THIS. BUT THEN COMES THE GRATEFULNESS
OF SEEING THE CARING OF EXISTENCE TO LET US HAVE BEAUTIFUL, LOVING EYES TO
LOOK AT, A VOICE TALKING TO US, A BODY WE CAN GIVE A DRESS TO, A CAR TO DRIVE...
TO LET US CARE ABOUT SOMEONE SO TOTALLY, THAT THIS VERY LOVE OPENS US UP TO
BE TRANSFORMED.
BUDDHAM SHARANAM GACHCHHAMI – YOU ARE THE FEET OF THE WHOLE WORLD FOR
ME, WHERE I CAN BOW DOWN IN GRATEFULNESS.
Gayan, that was the real experience of me as non-existent. Once in a while a disciple will come
so close that he will be able to see that there is no ”I” within me. It has died long ago. This body
is empty, this chair is empty. But it will be only at rare, intimate moments, that you will be able to
penetrate to my reality. I am simply a nothingness – of course covered with a body.
Ordinarily you will see the body. To see the nothingness within you need a deep insight. And one
never knows in what condition it may happen.
The Transmission of the Lamp 311 Osho
CHAPTER 30. THIS CHAIR IS EMPTY
You were dancing around me joyously, so deeply in the moment. With great love you were sitting in
front of me, bowing down, repeating the greatest mantra there has ever been: buddham sharanam
gachchhami, ”I go to the feet of the awakened one”. And thousands of people were creating a milieu
around you. It was not an ordinary situation: an extraordinary device, so when you opened your
eyes suddenly for a moment I was not there.
And your understanding is right, that it is just for your love that I am carrying the body. Howsoever
difficult it may be, it is worth it if it can help you to realize your potential. Otherwise my body’s work
is long ago finished. It should not be there.
I am trying every effort to hang on to it, because most of you are not yet ready to see me. You see
only the body. The day you all will be able to see me, there will be no need for the body to be carried
continuously – which is for me just a burden, just a trouble. But I will wait until enough of you are
aware of my nothingness.
Remember, the moment you are aware of my nothingness, you are also experiencing nothingness
in you. Only two nothingnesses can recognize each other.
Gayan, you saw the chair empty, and the experience was so strange that you forgot to look within
yourself. If you had done that, you would have found that the same nothingness is there.
We are not egos. We consist of universal nothingness. And nothingness is not a negative word; it
simply means absence of everything, just pure existence. Of course the pure existence cannot have
a form. So if you happen to see pure existence, you will see the body disappear, the chair empty.
If it happens again, then in the same moment look within yourself, and you will find your body is also
absent – you are not. And to know that one is not is the door to know that one is eternal. This is the
ultimate paradox of spiritual experience.
Shakespeare is puzzled by the problem ”to be or not to be,” because he is absolutely unaware that
the way to be is not to be. There is no question of choice. It is not that you have to choose one.
If you choose to be, you will have to choose not to be. If you are ready to disappear, evaporate,
you will find your authenticity for the first time. It is certainly a paradox. No logic can explain it, but
experience can make it absolutely clear.
You had felt ridiculous. You had laughed, because thousands of people are bowing down to an
empty chair chanting buddham sharanam gachchhami, and there is nobody.
Your laughter, Gayan, was still half. If you had looked into yourself, your laughter would have been
complete. Then you would not have only seen me not there, you would have seen yourself not there,
you would have seen those thousands of people disappearing – an empty mandir resounding with
the chanting of buddham sharanam gachchhami.
Next time it happens, don’t let it be incomplete. Because if it is complete, then you have come to
a clear understanding which will follow you like a shadow in every act throughout your life. It will
change your whole being. It will give you a new aroma, a new aura – and not only to you, you will
see it in others too; although those others are not aware of it. But you will be aware of it.
The Transmission of the Lamp 312 Osho
CHAPTER 30. THIS CHAIR IS EMPTY
That’s why the Japanese awakened soul Hotei has been called the laughing Buddha. For what is he
laughing? – his whole teaching was laughing. Seeing this ridiculousness that people are not what
they are thinking they are, and people are what they never dream about.... It is a cosmic joke, but
one has to understand it to come to a point when one can become a laughing buddha.
And I want the world filled with laughing buddhas, not the serious ones. We are sick of them.
We need the whole earth filled with laughter, and not ordinary laughter but cosmic laughter – a
laughter that arises out of the understanding that it is a beautiful joke existence has played with us.`
From : The Transmission of the Lamp,Talks in Uruguay 1986
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Post by acewall on Nov 2, 2011 1:20:43 GMT -5
is it One BOOK or many books?
I like Osho, He has given Heaps to the World.
I worked with a gestalt group of his 35years back In Zorba the Buddha, Restaurant, Auckland NZ, when i was starting-outwards on my journey...and felt ready to commit after a weekend embrace with his therapists,
yet when i asked within his presence 'shall I....?'
He said to me,'once a sanyasin always a sanyasin'.
I immediately saw that I had been sanyasin for many lifetimes....already and I am still sanyassin about.
Unfolding is when we relax...Here we all are together; only mind makes division.
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